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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 21 2008 16:03 GMT
#301
On August 22 2008 00:53 ray1234 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2008 00:38 ShAsTa wrote:
Nadal hasn't accomplished that much. He's on a roll this year but not yet what you make him out to be strafe. Federer is way (way) ahead of him.
You can't win the 100/200/400/800/1600 (track) to whoever said that. They are vastly different. Maybe 100/200/400 but rest is impossible.
On August 21 2008 22:21 BlackJack wrote:
Usain Bolt > both


they should get rid of the 100m or 200m swims for each style... too many people with medals in both

You should probably read the rest of this thread where it was proven that that's not true at all.
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raiame
Profile Joined December 2007
United States421 Posts
August 21 2008 16:23 GMT
#302
Nada > Nadal
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
August 21 2008 17:45 GMT
#303
On August 22 2008 00:53 ray1234 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2008 00:38 ShAsTa wrote:
Nadal hasn't accomplished that much. He's on a roll this year but not yet what you make him out to be strafe. Federer is way (way) ahead of him.
You can't win the 100/200/400/800/1600 (track) to whoever said that. They are vastly different. Maybe 100/200/400 but rest is impossible.
On August 21 2008 22:21 BlackJack wrote:
Usain Bolt > both


they should get rid of the 100m or 200m swims for each style... too many people with medals in both


walter dix and usain bolt won 4 of the 6 medals in the 100 and 200
Kerron Stewart medaled in the 100 and the 200
Marion Jones won 3 golds and 2 bronzes in 2000
OGM!!!
get rid of all the similar events!

What's wrong with too many people getting medals? who cares? medal counts are stupid anyways what does it matter
they're vastly different races why should they be removed?
theonemephisto
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States409 Posts
August 21 2008 17:48 GMT
#304
On August 22 2008 00:38 ShAsTa wrote:
Nadal hasn't accomplished that much. He's on a roll this year but not yet what you make him out to be strafe. Federer is way (way) ahead of him.
You can't win the 100/200/400/800/1600 (track) to whoever said that. They are vastly different. Maybe 100/200/400 but rest is impossible.
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2008 22:21 BlackJack wrote:
Usain Bolt > both

And the 100 fly and the 400 IM aren't vastly different?

I'm not saying that it should be common or anything. I'm just saying that Michael Phelps has done a pretty similar thing except in swimming (100 to 400 are a similar relation to 400 and mile, except the 400 IM also has 4 different strokes). If there were someone as dominant and versatile as Phelps in track, I'd expect them to be able to do similar things.
kpcrew
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1071 Posts
August 23 2008 01:15 GMT
#305
apparently phelps is a bit of a douchebag though
Clan Lzuruha
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
August 23 2008 01:34 GMT
#306
On August 23 2008 10:15 kpcrew(Gg) wrote:
apparently phelps is a bit of a douchebag though


Yea, apparently, but nobody wants to hear their hero's a douche.

For all you guys who say that the 100/200 strokes should be compressed, they're two totally different events. I know kids who rock the 200 distances and suck at the 100 distances. In the professional swimming world, Brandon Hansen is a baller 200 breaststroker but not so much a 100 breaststroker. And for all of you guys who don't swim, try swimming a 200 fly. It's hard.

I don't know the exact magnitude of Usain Bolt's accomplishments because I don't run, but apparently it's pretty rare to see someone that fast by that big of a margin in that many events, especially the sprint ones.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
August 23 2008 01:35 GMT
#307
There should be two or three swimming disciplines. Not 32.

There should no longer be weight classes in all those sports that have ones.

Stuff like table tennis and badminton shouldn't separate males and females.
yn01_
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada149 Posts
August 23 2008 01:37 GMT
#308
Let's just say as good as phelps is, he's a winner in a losers sport.

I'd rather be a loser in winners sport.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
August 23 2008 02:08 GMT
#309
Midget toss should be an official Olympic sport.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
kpcrew
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1071 Posts
August 23 2008 02:12 GMT
#310
On August 23 2008 10:37 yn01_ wrote:
Let's just say as good as phelps is, he's a winner in a losers sport.

I'd rather be a loser in winners sport.



not true at all

the guy won 8 gold medals
who wouldnt want the dick of the most "winningest" olympian of all time?
i mean get real, this guy is world famous and in amazing shape
Clan Lzuruha
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
August 23 2008 02:12 GMT
#311
On August 23 2008 10:37 yn01_ wrote:
Let's just say as good as phelps is, he's a winner in a losers sport.

I'd rather be a loser in winners sport.

losers sport=?
winners sport=?

what the fuck are you talking about
{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
August 23 2008 09:52 GMT
#312
he said phelps is a water sissy
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
August 23 2008 11:23 GMT
#313
On August 23 2008 10:35 BlackStar wrote:
There should be two or three swimming disciplines. Not 32.

There should no longer be weight classes in all those sports that have ones.

Stuff like table tennis and badminton shouldn't separate males and females.


oh?
so should we compress running into 2 or 3 races?
should we also compress all of diving into 2 events?
what about crew?
i don't see why people say this, why do you care if there are more events? There's more events to watch, more time to enjoy the olympics, if you don't like the medal count then ignore it who cares
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
August 23 2008 16:25 GMT
#314
Because it's not fair.

If there is 6 weight classes you only have to beat 1/6th of the field.

Running is the most basic human activity. A few different disciplines are justified. But I still don't get why they have 100, 200, 400, 4x100, etc even with running.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
August 23 2008 16:30 GMT
#315
not fair to who? the athletes? the spectators? the judges?
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
August 23 2008 16:33 GMT
#316
On August 24 2008 01:30 KOFgokuon wrote:
not fair to who? the athletes? the spectators? the judges?

not fair to blackstar's fantasy world of arbitrary justifications
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ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-23 17:21:34
August 23 2008 17:19 GMT
#317
On August 22 2008 02:48 theonemephisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2008 00:38 ShAsTa wrote:
Nadal hasn't accomplished that much. He's on a roll this year but not yet what you make him out to be strafe. Federer is way (way) ahead of him.
You can't win the 100/200/400/800/1600 (track) to whoever said that. They are vastly different. Maybe 100/200/400 but rest is impossible.
On August 21 2008 22:21 BlackJack wrote:
Usain Bolt > both

And the 100 fly and the 400 IM aren't vastly different?

I'm not saying that it should be common or anything. I'm just saying that Michael Phelps has done a pretty similar thing except in swimming (100 to 400 are a similar relation to 400 and mile, except the 400 IM also has 4 different strokes). If there were someone as dominant and versatile as Phelps in track, I'd expect them to be able to do similar things.

I don't know much about swimming so you could be right. But there's one thing that still makes me think that the differences in swimming are not as big as in running, and that's how different the athletes are built in track. Unless I'm mistaken most swimmers have more or less the same body shape. Tall and somewhat muscular but nothing like a 100m sprinter. If you look at track the difference between an 800m runner and a 100m sprinter is huge. Of course there are exceptions like Bolt, Kim Collins, Miankova in hammer throw (lol), ... but overall the difference is big and bigger than in swimming. And with such a big difference it would be pretty much impossible to win the 800m if you compete in the 100m. But again, I'm no expert.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
August 23 2008 17:46 GMT
#318
kosuke kitajima is 5'10", 161 (breaststroker), ian thorpe was 6'5" 229 (mid distance freestyler)
i'd say those are pretty significant differences
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
August 23 2008 19:54 GMT
#319
On August 24 2008 01:33 Hot_Bid wrote:
not fair to blackstar's fantasy world of arbitrary justifications



Can you count? If so it should be obvious unless you live in a fantasy world.


Medals aren't equal. There's only 1 medal in many sports while there are more than a dozen in others.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
August 23 2008 20:21 GMT
#320
On August 24 2008 04:54 BlackStar wrote:
Medals aren't equal.

Exactly. And they never will be, so there's no point in removing divisions that are far from arbitrary just to make things "fair".
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