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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
September 02 2008 06:28 GMT
#101
Missed FGs, fumbles, picks, horrendous QB play.

Great day for Tennessee. They put the whole package together.
God Bless
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
September 02 2008 07:12 GMT
#102
I was there. My voice is so hoarse, but it was totally worth it. The Tennessee game will be one to remember for a long time.
Super serious.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
September 02 2008 13:33 GMT
#103
Sick game. Got to watch it on my new 42 in LG =]

And the SEC is still light years ahead of everyone else, despite the Vols shitting the bed
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hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4669 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-04 02:24:59
September 02 2008 15:13 GMT
#104
The hasu25: The power ranking's as hasuprotoss sees it Week 1.

Well, let's see how I rank the teams compared to those evil sports writers and coaches who are completely incapable of watching every single game:

1. Georgia- To hell with 'em. Unfortunately the most talented team in the nation, they won't stay here long.
2. Southern Cal- Well, at least they beat a BCS team. Granted, it might easily be the worst BCS team in the country, but whatever. Will not be surprised if they drop one or two in Pac10 play.
3. Ohio State- If Beanie's out, they are probably not that great. And Pryor really didn't look that impressive. He made the wrong read but blew by the FCS DE. Don't expect that to work in the Big 10.
4. Missouri- If they actually played a sucky team like that, they probably wouldn't be here. I hope their defense improves, or they won't stick around for long...
5. LSU- Couldn't find really anybody else to stick here. They did look good against Appalachian State though.
6. Oklahoma- Bradford is a beast, let's see if they can survive their nemesis Texas and the much talked about Texas Tech.
7. Florida- Ok, Tebow. Whatever.
8. West Virginia- Or Virgina if your a Pitt fan... but I digress... I don't think they are as good as last year, but an easy conference should help them out. Let's see how they fare against ECU.
9. Auburn- New offensive style. I wonder how they'll fare in the thick of things.
10. Fresno State- Just because they have balls. Massive balls. They actually have a tough out of conference schedule. Wisconsin, (at) UCLA, (at) Toledo, none of those are cakewalks (OK, maybe Toledo... ). Not to mention I'm pretty sure their toughest conference games are on the road. If they run the table, they are going to be VERY highly ranked.
11. Texas Tech- 17 points in quarter to Eastern Washington has me worried, but their offense should be well oiled with Harrell.
12. Wisconsin- At Fresno next week. If they win they jump in my rankings, easily.
13. California- Winning a tough out of conference game early has its rewards, no?
14. UCLA- Just a little bit ahead of California. Great game on Thursday, Craft showed some really big guts hanging in there with 4 picks in the first half and leading some of those drives late in the game in real impressive style.
15. Texas- Not really all that high on these guys.
16. Penn State- Actually dependable QB play from a Jay Paterno coached QB? NOWAI! Let's see if that continues against Oregon State.
17. Alabama- I'm still not that impressed with Clemson. However, holding them to 0 yards rushing will work.
18. Utah- The second best non-BCS team in my book. BYU is going to be a test for them, but if they get by it they might be able to crash the party. I just wish they had a slightly more difficult out-of-conference schedule (look at Fresno!), but they did win their "tough" game against Michigan.
19. Arizona State- I swear, it feels like Carpenter has been the QB of this team since I was born. A test next week against Stanford and a big test coming soon against Georgia.
20. BYU- A good team with a terrible schedule.
21. Oregon- Didn't look great, but whatever.
22. South Florida- Cupcake conference plus cupcake schedule yields cupcake ranking.
23. Eastern Carolina- Good luck against WVU. PROVE THAT C-USA ISN'T COMPLETE CRAP!
24. Wake Forest- Ok, Wake gets a near tie for difficulty with USC. Actually, Baylor may be worse. But whatever, Wake Forest might actually be capable of doing something.
25. Georgia Tech- We're undefeated, yo ^_^!

Edit: If you have an argument for moving someone, tell me why. If your points are good enough then I will move things around. And any Florida fan who thinks I should move them up... Hawaii is pure garbage. As in, the garbage of garbage.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
September 02 2008 18:23 GMT
#105
Ohio State once again has such a cupcake schedule. Even if they lose to the one legit good team they play (USC) they'll still get a good bowl.

Fresno has a tough schedule, but let's not get ahead of ourselves, Rutgers isn't the Rutgers of two years ago. No Rice, a very mediocre Teel (the guy, since HS, has only been good with a lot of surrounding talent)
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hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4669 Posts
September 02 2008 19:36 GMT
#106
On September 03 2008 03:23 Hawk wrote:
Ohio State once again has such a cupcake schedule. Even if they lose to the one legit good team they play (USC) they'll still get a good bowl.

Fresno has a tough schedule, but let's not get ahead of ourselves, Rutgers isn't the Rutgers of two years ago. No Rice, a very mediocre Teel (the guy, since HS, has only been good with a lot of surrounding talent)


Yeah, but Rutgers isn't Georgia Southern or Youngstown State either. So I'll give Fresno some credit on the scheduling. We'll have to see how the second week shakes out. I'm already ready for it to come, especially with that great game from last night. Hopefully the ACC can rebound and show that it has something besides utter disappointments and we get to see some tougher games out of more teams.
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
September 02 2008 19:50 GMT
#107
On September 03 2008 00:13 hasuprotoss wrote:

19. Florida State- Just because I feel bad for the ACC. FSU may very well be the best team in this (terrible looking after week one) conference.
21. Florida- Oh, whoops. Forgot about these guys until now. Whatever, they are probably more deserving of this ranking than anything higher.
23. Alabama- Whatever, you have the most annoying fan base in the world. Blow me.

Edit: If you have an argument for moving someone, tell me why. If your points are good enough then I will move things around. And any Florida fan who thinks I should move them up... Hawaii is pure garbage. As in, the garbage of garbage.


I disagree here. After seeing the 4th or 5th best team in the SEC dismantle the best the ACC has to offer, I don't feel any ACC team deserves a spot in the top 25. I believe Alabama deserves quite a few notches up to around 15. While most teams week one played cupcake opponents, Alabama went out and CRUSHED Clemson on National TV.

And Florida deserves at least 15 spots higher. Their offense is ridiculous.


God Bless
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
September 02 2008 20:03 GMT
#108
On September 03 2008 04:50 Roffles wrote:
And Florida deserves at least 15 spots higher. Their offense is ridiculous.


Definitely. Sure Hawaii is garbage, but so are Northern Arizona, Coastal Carolina, Chattanooga, Villanova, etc... in fact those teams are all worse than Hawaii. UF is probably a top 5 team; definitely belong in the top 10.

The only teams who beat anybody decent are Missouri, UCLA, Alabama, and maybe Utah.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
September 02 2008 20:05 GMT
#109
I think Missouri is gonna surprise a lot of people.

I think UCLA just played lights out in the 2nd half. They won't be great, but you certainly can't sleep on them.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 20:33:53
September 02 2008 20:33 GMT
#110
On September 03 2008 05:05 Hawk wrote:
I think Missouri is gonna surprise a lot of people.


I'm torn on this this. They might, but they shouldn't. Bias plays against them is pretty strongly, because ESPN is busy hyping up Georgia and Florida constantly (how exactly is Florida still ahead of them in the rankings? They closed the year out by losing to Michigan who wasn't even ranked when they were #9, and they played a cream puff team week 1).

The Missouri fan in me says they might lose to Texas, but then again any of the other times might lose to any number of opponents. Missouri beat a pretty tough team in week 1 before they had the chance to iron out any issues. They were in control 90% of the game, they would have won by 17 save for a last minute drive that scored with no time left. Yeah, their defense could have been better, but they actually took a chance and played a tough team week 1 on neutral ground. They didn't even get bumped up one rank.

Oh well, I suppose from here on out it's easy cruising for the Tigers until Nebraska, Oklahoma State, and Texas.I guess Missouri learned the lesson of "play easy teams, you don't get rewarded if play hard ones" from last year.
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
September 02 2008 20:45 GMT
#111
On September 03 2008 05:33 zer0das wrote:
I'm torn on this this. They might, but they shouldn't. Bias plays against them is pretty strongly, because ESPN is busy hyping up Georgia and Florida constantly (how exactly is Florida still ahead of them in the rankings? They closed the year out by losing to Michigan who wasn't even ranked when they were #9, and they played a cream puff team week 1).


That bias is really going to hurt them if they lose the Big 12. I could see them going 11-2 again but getting left out in favor of Illinois for an at-large... the selection committee will probably say 10 points was "close enough" :/

Oh well, I suppose from here on out it's easy cruising for the Tigers until Nebraska, Oklahoma State, and Texas.I guess Missouri learned the lesson of "play easy teams, you don't get rewarded if play hard ones" from last year.


Missouri has no control over their Big 12 schedule. It's pure chance that they wouldn't face Oklahoma or Tech until the conference championship game. Last season, the nonconference schedule was Illinois + 3 creampuffs as well. Too bad... I'd like to see them play somebody like an Arizona State or Wisconsin for a second nonconference challenge.
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4669 Posts
September 02 2008 22:30 GMT
#112
Ok, the hasu25 has been updated. I decided that FSU wasn't really deserving of a spot. However, we can't truly deny Wake. While they weren't playing a OMG game, they did beat a BCS school. Florida moved up since I decided that I shouldn't be lazy and should actually move them up (I actually forgot about them originally, lol). And Bama moved up some.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
September 03 2008 17:43 GMT
#113
Oh man... ESPN sure says some dumb things. One writer put Florida on top of the SEC rankings with the following justification: "Georgia got a bunch of mileage out of drubbing Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl last season, so Florida deserves some, right?"

We overhyped Georgia for beating Hawaii last year, and now we'll make up for it with overhyping Florida even more! Good call chief.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
September 03 2008 18:07 GMT
#114
U C L A FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

Unfortunately it looks like you guys are still going to get mauled by USC.
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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
September 03 2008 19:22 GMT
#115
Toledo is a cakewalk.

Cal has a tougher non conf. schedule (and conference in general) yet you rank them 5 ranks behind Fresno State? Don't tell me it's because FS > CAL
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
September 03 2008 19:35 GMT
#116
Kentucky's defense is so much better, they killed louisville!! Offense wise, got a new qb but he'll get better.
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4669 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-03 23:52:06
September 03 2008 23:51 GMT
#117
On September 04 2008 04:22 nemY wrote:
Toledo is a cakewalk.

Cal has a tougher non conf. schedule (and conference in general) yet you rank them 5 ranks behind Fresno State? Don't tell me it's because FS > CAL


Hmm, I would like to see Fresno State against Cal, would be a good game. The only real beef I have with Cal is the close win against Michigan State. They gave up over 400 yards (but gave up only 82 on the ground to a running team with Ringer :O ). I'm still not quite 100% sure how strong this Cal team is. If they perform against Washington State and Michigan State looks more promising than I belief they are at this point in time, I'll definitely move them up. As of right now, they'll go on my radar (your post put them there as I kind of forgot about them).

As for the scheduling issue, it's kind of close. Cal got past their easiest out-of-conference foe in Michigan St. Maryland is a team which struggled with a Delaware team that lost Joe Flacco. Colorado State, I must admit, I know very little about. However, I know they aren't the strongest team. I will give you Toledo being a cakewalk (for Fresno) .

It should be interesting to see how teams perform in this next week. This will be a great chance for teams to earn respect, especially if people that they played in week one perform (unfortunately, we don't get to see how truly great Michigan St. is this week as they host Eastern Michigan).

As for Cal's conference, with the exception of USC, all of their tough conference games are at home. We'll see how they fare in the next few games.

Edit: But I did flip them with Texas. :D
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fig_newbie
Profile Joined March 2006
749 Posts
September 04 2008 00:45 GMT
#118
On September 03 2008 00:13 hasuprotoss wrote:
2. Southern Cal- Well, at least they beat a BCS team. Granted, it might easily be the worst BCS team in the country, but whatever. Will not be surprised if they drop one or two in Pac10 play.


"might easily be the worst BCS team in the country"?? UCLA, with a third string quarterback, a first year coach and an untested line was undoubtedly "worse" than Virginia - until Saturday, when a Trojan wrecking ball murdered them, in house.

USC imposed their will on Virginia and MADE them look bad. Don't get it twisted.
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hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4669 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-04 02:22:44
September 04 2008 02:02 GMT
#119
On September 04 2008 09:45 fig_newbie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 00:13 hasuprotoss wrote:
2. Southern Cal- Well, at least they beat a BCS team. Granted, it might easily be the worst BCS team in the country, but whatever. Will not be surprised if they drop one or two in Pac10 play.


"might easily be the worst BCS team in the country"?? UCLA, with a third string quarterback, a first year coach and an untested line was undoubtedly "worse" than Virginia - until Saturday, when a Trojan wrecking ball murdered them, in house.

USC imposed their will on Virginia and MADE them look bad. Don't get it twisted.


You really underestimate the suckiness of Virginia. 2 returning starters on the O-line and their entire D-line left with one of those D-linemen going in the first round of the NFL draft. You just don't replace that kind of stuff over night unless you are basically USC. And trust me, I definitely had UCLA over Virginia before last week.

Edit: I'm willing to rise them up if Georgia looks stale against whoever they're playing (it's not anybody terribly good yet). Ohio State is running a big risk running Beanie this week.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 04 2008 02:15 GMT
#120
Yea MSU did not perform as well as many people thought they might. The D gave up WAY to much rushing yards while the O-Line did not adjust well and give Ringer much room to run. Hoyer also still hasnt shown he can do well in pressure situations (MSU had chances late to tie but Hoyer threw some bad passes). Overall I was ok with their performance and the one thing that bothered me was the penelties at the worst times (the offensive pass int call that killed a TD for one). It was a close game, while Cal fans can say it wouldn't have been without the 2 Ints thrown by their one QB MSU had 2 TDs called back (the pass int was a call that imo could have gone both ways) and the no catch TD (didnt see this one real well but some people said it was a catch and others were not really sure so ill just say it wasn't a catch). I was disapointed with the run game but all in all Cal is supposed to have some sterling linebackers and we just weren't prepared for their defense packages and their shifting of them. We should blow out Eastern this week and probably Florida Atlantic as well.
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