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hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4669 Posts
September 20 2008 04:45 GMT
#221
Just to show how stats don't tell the whole story:

Apparently UConn and Baylor combined for... ZERO first downs.

It was that or the guys at ESPN didn't enter in the numbers correctly...
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
September 20 2008 06:40 GMT
#222
On September 20 2008 13:45 hasuprotoss wrote:
Just to show how stats don't tell the whole story:

Apparently UConn and Baylor combined for... ZERO first downs.

It was that or the guys at ESPN didn't enter in the numbers correctly...


Uh... they had 45 according to ESPN. I think you might be looking at the wrong thing...
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4669 Posts
September 20 2008 22:38 GMT
#223
On September 20 2008 15:40 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2008 13:45 hasuprotoss wrote:
Just to show how stats don't tell the whole story:

Apparently UConn and Baylor combined for... ZERO first downs.

It was that or the guys at ESPN didn't enter in the numbers correctly...


Uh... they had 45 according to ESPN. I think you might be looking at the wrong thing...


No, like right after the game it had neither team having a first down. They probably fixed it by the time you saw it .

Anyways, Auburn is #10? How? They beat Mississippi St 3-2... Tech outscored that game in 5 minutes 5 seconds. Whatever. Come on UNC. Stop imploding. Beat Va Tech. You can do it, I swear!
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 23:10:53
September 20 2008 23:02 GMT
#224
On September 19 2008 00:01 hasuprotoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2008 23:51 Hawk wrote:
^^^^

Yeah, that was horseshit.

I was so happy with the OSU result, that was coming from a mile away. Talk about over fucking rated. Pretty good team? Yeah. Anywhere near top 10? Hellllll no. Their conference has been a cakewalk for the last 3-4 years with Michigan in the dumps.

I was in Boston for the game, and for some reason, there was a huge group of OSU fans there. GOd, I had so much fun talking shit to them.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1144&CID=851790

Why the hell is there controversy over this? The tripple team wasn't illegal?


I guess the controversy is over the fact that there was scuffling before the play where he twisted his ankle. Triple teaming a defensive linemen (as far as I know) isn't illegal. It would be illegal if one of the offensive linemen was engaged with blocking this guy and another offensive player came in for a chop block. However, the article didn't really make it come out sounding like it was such, just straight normal pad on pad blocking.


Edit: And down in the dumps conference? Hmmm... Let's see here:

2007:
(#1) Ohio State 24 < 38 LSU (#2)
(#18) Wisconsin 17 < 21 Tennessee (#16)
Michigan 41 > 35 Florida (#9!!!!!!)

Congrats, you won the "closely" ranked games and lost a major upset...

2006:
(#1) Ohio State 14 < 41 Florida (#2)
Penn State 20 > 10 Tennessee (#17)
(#6) Wisconsin 17 > 14 Arkansas (#12)

So what do we see over the past two years from SEC vs. Big 10 bowl game play? Well, they are dead even at 3-3. OSU (who has never shown up obviously) accounts for two of those losses. Wisky is 1-1. Michigan and Penn State have pulled upsets of ranked teams. So when the teams were:

In favor of Big Ten (a rank spread of +5): 1-0
Equal (+/- 5): 1-2
In favor of SEC (-5): 2-0

Hmm... Granted it's not really conclusive evidence to truly say that SEC=Big 10, but obviously the two conference are nearing equal depth. And of course, let's not forget that all of these matches (with the exception of the OSU-LSU game) were played in the Southeast.

Of course, this year I'm beginning to doubt OSU making a BCS bowl game, since Penn State should be able to go undefeated with the talent they have. Wisconsin also looks decently strong.

Edit 2: For more about what I was talking about (and much better written out as well), follow this link to read Kevin HD of Black Shoe Diaries report of how the Big 10 fares in bowl games:

http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2008/8/13/591751/a-bowl-record-like-a-bad-j
Michigan owns the SEC, but we've still be pretty bad in years past. Especially out West.

That type of statistical analysis is incredibly flawed, especially in college football where emotions dictate so much of the game. In the USA basketball thread, we spent a good amount of time arguing that anything besides a bo3/bo5 is useless, and the same standard should be held for football. Obviously it won't happen, but to say X team is better than Y team due to OOC strength or opponent strength is the same shit we curse the BCS computers for doing.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 23:43:47
September 20 2008 23:03 GMT
#225
Notre Dame Go home! Ringer just smacked you in the face.
Never Knows Best.
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4669 Posts
September 20 2008 23:32 GMT
#226
Yeah, I know Jibba. But I guess this "every game means everything" mentality is what makes college football so great. The only problem is how harshly it punishes teams for losing late rather than losing early. But that's another quirk that I guess adds to the excitement as the season goes on.

Anyways, Ringer owned Notre Dame. Stupid Lou Holtz, Notre Dame will be lucky to go to a bowl game this year...

ACC regaining some respect. Ga Tech>Mississippi State and The U>Texas A&M in College Station should help bolster it somewhat.

Tennessee... you just suck balls.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 21 2008 00:12 GMT
#227
Good god Auburn's defense is fast.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
September 21 2008 02:26 GMT
#228
Holy shit this guy Scott is phenomenal. It seems like he gets 10 years every other carry.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
September 21 2008 02:40 GMT
#229
go watch auburn vs lsu guys
Zeller
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States1109 Posts
September 21 2008 02:49 GMT
#230
Michigan State won, that's all that matters
Last.Epic , Epic[LighT]
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-21 03:11:37
September 21 2008 03:10 GMT
#231
On September 21 2008 11:26 BroOd wrote:
Holy shit this guy Scott is phenomenal. It seems like he gets 10 years every other carry.


He's averaging 11yds a carry before today, I believe. He probably kept that around 10 yds. He's VERY important for our offense, because we're starting two freshmen QBs who don't have very strong arms so we can't really threaten over the top with our NFL wideouts.

Scott is slower than Addai, but has better vision at his age and is much stronger.

But yeah, we have Auburn(10 - win), Miss St., Florida(4), South Carolina, Georgia(3), Tulane, Alabama(9) as our upcoming games. People ask why we try not to schedule top 10 out of conference?
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
September 21 2008 04:17 GMT
#232
been to every RU game this year and they are playing absolutely awful its terrible

Teel doesnt have any idea on how to play the QB position and its terrible

its absolutely awful football to watch and i hope they get good again real fast, but Tom Savage needs to get here quick to save the team
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
September 25 2008 23:54 GMT
#233
we better win on saturday.

we basically either have to 1) beat everyone left [including USC] or 2) beat everyone except USC and hope USC sweeps their opponents.

fucking lame.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
September 26 2008 01:58 GMT
#234
wow

Oregon state is whooping on USC

USC is godly when they play teams who dont know them, but I guess the Pac 10 teams seeing them every year makes them look normal.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 26 2008 02:09 GMT
#235
holy crap
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
September 26 2008 02:31 GMT
#236
Holy Shit, UNC collapsing.

Oregon just caught a miraculous touchdown pass there.

They're gonna be up 21-0 at the half.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
September 26 2008 02:39 GMT
#237
On September 26 2008 11:31 triangle wrote:
Holy Shit, UNC collapsing.

Oregon just caught a miraculous touchdown pass there.

They're gonna be up 21-0 at the half.


UNC and Oregon? lolwut
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
September 26 2008 02:41 GMT
#238
OMFG #1USC... LOOOOLLLL, getting crushed by a team that lost to Stanford and got destroyed be Penn State! Ohio State Really Sucks.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 26 2008 03:46 GMT
#239
You just dont know oregon state. We are the best team in the country but we start every season losing the first 2 games. Could be a HS team and we'd get blanked. After that we become the most disguistingly good team around.
NerO
Profile Joined February 2003
United States2071 Posts
September 26 2008 04:16 GMT
#240
WOW talk about having usc's number OSU straight up beat the crap out of them in every aspect... on a side note Mark Sanchez sucks and doesnt deserve to be drafted.
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