I have played against Mania before but that is not me. I did play as Vicious in IHCS which is probably why that guy is Vicious-. I can tell it's not me because of the map version, it's too recent.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

May 01 2008 04:27 GMT

#623

Does Icefrog hate qop or something? Another nerf? SK lower armor nerf too. He honestly makes changes for no reason.

Judicator

United States7270 Posts

May 01 2008 17:31 GMT

#624

uh, qop needed a nerf, too easy to dominate mid game with her and potm and your only real response till sheepstick is a defensive blink dagger or nukes, plus as i have had mentioned before she has a lot of builds open to her, then with the new items like orchid and shivas mixed in with the buff to linkens, if they didn't nerf qop she would be more autoban than she is now.

Chewits

Northern Ireland1200 Posts

May 01 2008 18:01 GMT

#625

The real question is, wether or not the competitive community will grace to 6.52, or still stick with 6.48b/6.49c ? So many skilled players, don't want to loose their beloved dagger of "hahah fuck you im outa here" escape.

Fzero

United States1503 Posts

May 01 2008 18:18 GMT

#626

If you don't agree with the changes, why don't you apply to be a beta tester yourself? We make most of the changes based on the competitive dota scene and don't necessarily have any solutions for people who don't value QoP and SK as much as top teams still do. Hence, the nerfs.

paper

13197 Posts

May 01 2008 18:20 GMT

#627

what are the top 15 picks in recent competitive dota?

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

May 01 2008 18:56 GMT

#628

I think there's a thread by that exact title on the dota-allstars forum. 1st was BM, then I think zeus/qop, etc.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

May 01 2008 18:56 GMT

#629

Nvm that thread was actually about which 15 heroes get picked the most. Which is still sorta similar I guess

Judicator

United States7270 Posts

May 01 2008 19:15 GMT

#630

On May 02 2008 03:01 Chewits wrote:
The real question is, wether or not the competitive community will grace to 6.52, or still stick with 6.48b/6.49c ? So many skilled players, don't want to loose their beloved dagger of "hahah fuck you im outa here" escape.

I am banking on 57-58 being the next league modes, the recent changes parallel that of 27 to 37 transition, and 37-43b transition, meaning the game needs time to hammer out the new drastic changes, bug fix a few more and then become the last stable/league map.

Top 15 picks, assuming no bans or still available on the table in 48b: BM, QoP, PotM, Mag, NA, Lina, Lesh, Sand King (only because of his synergy with Lesh/Lina), Sven/Skel King, BB, SP, Centaur,SF, Zeus, Necro/ES/THD/etc. Basically the most frequently banned hero is BM, the rest of them are banned solely based on situation and planning and picked as such also.

[TYG]Transcend

679 Posts

May 02 2008 02:54 GMT

#631

I think it'll be 55, I'll post reasons why later.

Alventenie

United States2147 Posts

May 04 2008 19:39 GMT

#632

Here was a game from last night which was pretty fun. Teams were fairly balanced (i think sent was stronger by just a little because Lonery is imba).

Game was just another TL ap game where most people randomed, but overall it shows that teamwork is more important than anything else in the game. At one point in the game we were up like 10 kills, then they catch up and pass us in kills, yet then they don't work as a team as the game draws on longer and longer and we stop their carry pushing multiple times to finish the game. Overall once it was past the 60 minute mark it was alot of back and forth.

http://rapidshare.com/files/112549071/Dota_Pit_Lord_vs_Alch.w3g.html

ps. It also sucks that sj dropped, but we left the decision of playing on to them =/

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

May 07 2008 05:40 GMT

#633

I think I've raged more in two months of playing dota than in three years of playing starcraft. Last night I was playing in the nightly in house rdsp scrim with chinese dota forum people and despite there being lina, tinker, rooftrellen, zeus, sk, my teammate picks phantom lancer first followed by jugg and troll. Then when I asked about their choices the jugg asked me what their choices had to do with me. Soon after our middle got raxed I said, this is what happens with three carries and no stun and jugg told me I was a noobie viper then after some flaming I ragequit and got a warning for quiting in the middle of a game. Earlier that day I was pubbing with two other forum people, the lineup was luna, ogre magi, razor, troll, rikimaru, typical pub lineup which is fine but the rikimaru who was not a pub decided to farm for 40 minutes for battle fury and hotd then after we lost I flamed him till he quit our messenger group.

I guess this is the sort of thing that gets better when you get more experience. I suck and only learned about lineups and stuff recently so I'm not in a position to berate others but since dota is a five player game and I just get extremely pissed off when people do stuff wrong which is okay but then insists they're right and talk back. Anyways, Ryugie I feel you. But only a little.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

May 07 2008 05:42 GMT

#634

Oh also it sucks WG lost to SK, they are my favorite team to watch in MYM, hope they can make it out of the loser bracket. The individual abilities of the SK players are definitely not as good as WG's but their teamwork and Loda's leadership pushes them through. Also I love mouz.miracle's SK, it's so disgustingly sick.

Judicator

United States7270 Posts

May 07 2008 09:01 GMT

#635

this is why you play with quality in houses and good players...can't believe people still can't that in their heads.