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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17803 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-15 14:15:22
July 15 2026 11:58 GMT
#221
Cool to see 2008's Red Alert 3 still going. And, it is great to see DasDuelon still kicking ass in this game 17 years later.
Over $2000 Prize Pool for this event.


who needs new games? it would appear only the megacorporations do. I think the RTS genre is doing great. Sybert is awesome and every bit as good as the old EA Corpo produced: "Battlecast: Prime Time" from 2009.
On July 15 2026 01:25 Mrs Crabbleman wrote:
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On July 14 2026 23:41 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
On July 14 2026 21:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On July 14 2026 08:23 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
On July 14 2026 06:26 Waxangel wrote:


Good video explaining gaming industry stuff and relates to why SC2/StarCraft doesn't get much support w/ some Blizzard-specific anecdotes.

It's obvious stuff to people who follow the games industry in general, but I feel like it's something the SC2 community (and other people who are just interested in playing games, and not in following the giant industry machine behind it) has missed.


I love Jason Schreier's videos, but to be honest, this one just made me feel like working for a AAA game company would be like getting sent to hell. And I say this after having worked for Activision for ten years (albeit as a lowly technical writer).

Here's what I mean. Say you're an aspiring game designer, and you get your dream job at Blizzard. Awesome! Of course, you'll immediately be assigned to the Department of Figuring Out How To Make World Of Warcraft Generate More Money.

But suppose, just suppose, you escape this hell. Against all odds, and against the wishes of management, you create something new and amazing, like Hearthstone! Cool! You've created a new franchise that makes money in a AAA studio! You won the lottery!

Only now, you're in a different kind of hell, one entirely of your own making. Now you have to work on Hearthstone forever, and your only job now is to Figure Out Ways That Hearthstone Can Make More Money. You get to sit there and watch as all your efforts lead to Hearthstone becoming crappier and crappier, with more kinds of in-game currencies, more tedious Daily Tasks, more stupid tie-ins to other franchises, more popups, just more and more nonsense until the game becomes a parody of itself, and makes someone like Day[9] shake his head and wonder what the hell he ever saw in it originally.

Rinse and repeat!

How is working for a giant megcorp on a massive team at 1/2 your fair market value a dream job? If you are going to work for a massive megacorp at all it has to be on a team of 5 or less creating something totally new for at least 2X your fair market value. Otherwise, get a friend or two together and build something...anything.. yourself and sell it yourself. That's what Mike Morhaime and Allan Adham did.

At my "dream job" I worked on a team of 6 and we took down Microsoft Sharepoint. What a blast. I've also worked for teams of 200 that got crushed by teams of 5. So I've seen both sides. The team of 5 is way more fun man.

Your dream experience is in the creating of something totally new; It is not working for some giant labelled megacorp. As Samwise Didier said "ABC" = "Always Be Creating"

This was the mindset of most of my software engineering classmates. The ones who wanted a safe forever job at a megacorp became Chartered Accountants.

Its weird to me that we now have "computer science rebels" as risk averse as Chartered Accountants.

Mike Morhaime, Allan Adham, and Rob Pardo were the rebels... now they're The Empire LOLOL. This Scheier guy talks like someone who has never coded a FOR loop.


Hey different people value things differently, but i totally get your point. To some of us I think that whole blizzard dream was a childhood pipe dream perhaps

I just think old Blizzard represents when games were about the exploration of the unknown for the fun of it. It's more a symbol than anything else. It's the most well known story of nerds getting together to make stuff, and the cherry on top is that it actually worked out. To me the attractive part is renting an office for the first time and sleeping on the floor, putting in 17 hour days, not sure if anything is going to come together but fuck it whatever. Like the games themselves, it's an adventure.

That's the dream! I'd argue its more fun building a replacement for Crystal Reports in an accounting software package on a team of 2 or 3 in a small company than it is working on a "video game" that has a team of 300.

working on Accounting and Actuarial software can be way more fun than working on a video game. Again, i dont think this Jason Shire "investigative reporter" has ever coded a FOR loop. He is out of touch with what computer scientists and software engineers love doing.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
July 15 2026 18:14 GMT
#222


Interesting new strategy auto-battler.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7402 Posts
July 16 2026 10:41 GMT
#223
On July 16 2026 03:14 Manit0u wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIflUmXUXHY

Interesting new strategy auto-battler.


Is this like Nexus Wars right?
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
July 16 2026 10:59 GMT
#224
On July 16 2026 19:41 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2026 03:14 Manit0u wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIflUmXUXHY

Interesting new strategy auto-battler.


Is this like Nexus Wars right?


A bit more complex than that but yeah. The general idea is similar.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4448 Posts
July 17 2026 04:27 GMT
#225
On July 12 2026 22:51 CicadaSC wrote:
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On July 12 2026 13:16 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Heard nothing so I googled the discord, which is unofficial.Meta pulled 4 million in revenue from the studio so the consensus there is the game is cancelled, or at the least development pared back.

https://www.sharecafe.com.au/2026/06/01/playside-studios-ply-faces-a4-million-revenue-hit-as-meta-terminates-contracts/

very interesting article, thank you so much for sharing!! I see they pulled the revenue but i would be shocked if it is actually cancelled considering in that article playside confirmed themselves it's not cancelled.

"PlaySide confirmed that development on Game of Thrones: War for Westeros, MOUSE: P.I For Hire, and its Dew publishing agreement remains unaffected"

Yeah I figure they were just down after hearing no news for over a year about the game, new article today just says it's delayed into 2027 now.

https://www.ign.com/articles/game-of-thrones-war-for-westeros-release-date-delayed-to-early-2027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1986 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-17 09:55:07
July 17 2026 09:54 GMT
#226
On July 11 2026 19:21 CicadaSC wrote:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2838950/Game_of_Thrones_War_for_Westeros/
https://x.com/WarforWesteros/status/1931100564215267542

Game of Thrones: War for Westeros apparently comes out this year, 2026, according to steam and their announcement? Is that really happening? Is anyone following this game closely because I feel like i've heard NOTHING about it since announcement, at which point i thought it looked quite cool.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2838950/view/674000651716395172?l=english

now we know. BIG UPDATE to gameplay, maps, and a new "Early 2027" release window.

Game of Thrones: War for Westeros.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Jeremy Reimer
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-17 17:23:33
July 17 2026 17:22 GMT
#227
On July 17 2026 18:54 CicadaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2026 19:21 CicadaSC wrote:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2838950/Game_of_Thrones_War_for_Westeros/
https://x.com/WarforWesteros/status/1931100564215267542

Game of Thrones: War for Westeros apparently comes out this year, 2026, according to steam and their announcement? Is that really happening? Is anyone following this game closely because I feel like i've heard NOTHING about it since announcement, at which point i thought it looked quite cool.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2838950/view/674000651716395172?l=english

now we know. BIG UPDATE to gameplay, maps, and a new "Early 2027" release window.

Game of Thrones: War for Westeros.


Man, it's going to take forever before we finally learn for sure that this game isn't using the Snowplay "engine".
"Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere." -- Carl Sagan
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12162 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-21 18:49:55
July 21 2026 18:23 GMT
#228
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/enhearten-media/sanctuary-shattered-sun/

Seems like another large scale RTS (BAR, Supreme Commander, Total Annihilation etc style). Not sure about the studio and don't really do kickstarter myself but perhaps others are interested. They already hit their target so some people are interested at least.
noghost
Profile Joined November 2013
5 Posts
July 22 2026 18:16 GMT
#229
On July 18 2026 02:22 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2026 18:54 CicadaSC wrote:
On July 11 2026 19:21 CicadaSC wrote:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2838950/Game_of_Thrones_War_for_Westeros/
https://x.com/WarforWesteros/status/1931100564215267542

Game of Thrones: War for Westeros apparently comes out this year, 2026, according to steam and their announcement? Is that really happening? Is anyone following this game closely because I feel like i've heard NOTHING about it since announcement, at which point i thought it looked quite cool.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2838950/view/674000651716395172?l=english

now we know. BIG UPDATE to gameplay, maps, and a new "Early 2027" release window.

Game of Thrones: War for Westeros.


Man, it's going to take forever before we finally learn for sure that this game isn't using the Snowplay "engine".


We know its not using it based off of FG's financial statements, the rumors were just another astroturfed marketing attempt by Tim and co
Jeremy Reimer
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1220 Posts
July 24 2026 00:41 GMT
#230
On July 23 2026 03:16 noghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2026 02:22 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
On July 17 2026 18:54 CicadaSC wrote:
On July 11 2026 19:21 CicadaSC wrote:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2838950/Game_of_Thrones_War_for_Westeros/
https://x.com/WarforWesteros/status/1931100564215267542

Game of Thrones: War for Westeros apparently comes out this year, 2026, according to steam and their announcement? Is that really happening? Is anyone following this game closely because I feel like i've heard NOTHING about it since announcement, at which point i thought it looked quite cool.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2838950/view/674000651716395172?l=english

now we know. BIG UPDATE to gameplay, maps, and a new "Early 2027" release window.

Game of Thrones: War for Westeros.


Man, it's going to take forever before we finally learn for sure that this game isn't using the Snowplay "engine".


We know its not using it based off of FG's financial statements, the rumors were just another astroturfed marketing attempt by Tim and co


You're right, of course, but the rumor stubbornly persists despite Frost Giant not even really existing anymore.

"Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere." -- Carl Sagan
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17803 Posts
July 24 2026 01:04 GMT
#231
On July 23 2026 03:16 noghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2026 02:22 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
On July 17 2026 18:54 CicadaSC wrote:
On July 11 2026 19:21 CicadaSC wrote:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2838950/Game_of_Thrones_War_for_Westeros/
https://x.com/WarforWesteros/status/1931100564215267542

Game of Thrones: War for Westeros apparently comes out this year, 2026, according to steam and their announcement? Is that really happening? Is anyone following this game closely because I feel like i've heard NOTHING about it since announcement, at which point i thought it looked quite cool.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2838950/view/674000651716395172?l=english

now we know. BIG UPDATE to gameplay, maps, and a new "Early 2027" release window.

Game of Thrones: War for Westeros.


Man, it's going to take forever before we finally learn for sure that this game isn't using the Snowplay "engine".


We know its not using it based off of FG's financial statements, the rumors were just another astroturfed marketing attempt by Tim and co

And it was the 1970s astroturf the Houston Astros played on... Not the amazing field turf they have today.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33699 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-24 03:58:43
July 24 2026 03:57 GMT
#232
Saw this one announced today: https://store.steampowered.com/app/3973160/Crimson_Freedom/

After the success of Tempest Rising last year, I wonder what appetite is for more C&C-likes in the scene. I gotta think there's a bunch of casual RTS gamers who just want to play 20-30 more missions of C&C single player a couple of times a year.

Also, it's amusing to me that the Steam page for Crimson Freedom explicitly states "SINGLE PLAYER FIRST" and "LESS MICRO, MORE MACRO... ...Focus on commanding epic battles and crushing your opponents without the stress of resource micromanagement or high APM demands, allowing for a laid-back and enjoyable gaming experience." as part of its selling points. I've seen that sort of verbiage in a handful of other RTS games, and it makes me wonder how niche hardcore PvP RTS like SC2 has become.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10847 Posts
July 25 2026 14:02 GMT
#233
On July 24 2026 12:57 Waxangel wrote:
Saw this one announced today: https://store.steampowered.com/app/3973160/Crimson_Freedom/

After the success of Tempest Rising last year, I wonder what appetite is for more C&C-likes in the scene. I gotta think there's a bunch of casual RTS gamers who just want to play 20-30 more missions of C&C single player a couple of times a year.

Also, it's amusing to me that the Steam page for Crimson Freedom explicitly states "SINGLE PLAYER FIRST" and "LESS MICRO, MORE MACRO... ...Focus on commanding epic battles and crushing your opponents without the stress of resource micromanagement or high APM demands, allowing for a laid-back and enjoyable gaming experience." as part of its selling points. I've seen that sort of verbiage in a handful of other RTS games, and it makes me wonder how niche hardcore PvP RTS like SC2 has become.


This one looks pretty interesting too!
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12162 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-25 18:04:30
July 25 2026 17:59 GMT
#234
On July 24 2026 12:57 Waxangel wrote:
Saw this one announced today: https://store.steampowered.com/app/3973160/Crimson_Freedom/

After the success of Tempest Rising last year, I wonder what appetite is for more C&C-likes in the scene. I gotta think there's a bunch of casual RTS gamers who just want to play 20-30 more missions of C&C single player a couple of times a year.

Also, it's amusing to me that the Steam page for Crimson Freedom explicitly states "SINGLE PLAYER FIRST" and "LESS MICRO, MORE MACRO... ...Focus on commanding epic battles and crushing your opponents without the stress of resource micromanagement or high APM demands, allowing for a laid-back and enjoyable gaming experience." as part of its selling points. I've seen that sort of verbiage in a handful of other RTS games, and it makes me wonder how niche hardcore PvP RTS like SC2 has become.


I think I belong to the 20-30 more missions of C&C single player once or twice a year category. Tempest Rising could release a Tempest Rising 2 or another title using same engine etc and I would buy it. To keep that model going long term they need to get a title out each year and slowly iterate on things as they go along. They are still patching Tempest Rising hoping for somebody to play multiplayer, a bit of waste of their money if they aren't doing another RTS that can use those patches.

People said they should finish the game up, add third faction as playable etc. That expectation I think is showing the wrong direction for studios. What you release is what people will review, make that good enough and do a few updates for bugs. Then move on. DLC I guess is the compromise solution https://store.steampowered.com/app/4114220/Tempest_Rising_The_Vetis_Wrath/
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17803 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-04 14:51:21
August 04 2026 14:43 GMT
#235
Kinda interesting to see what the general public thinks about RTS.

https://x.com/i/status/2084309568704688128

When the general public thinks at all about RTS that is.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17803 Posts
August 04 2026 22:57 GMT
#236
looks like a handful of guys put together an RTS game called PowerPlay. 1650 units sold in early access @ $17 USD.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3010280/Powerplay/
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12874 Posts
August 05 2026 01:36 GMT
#237
Liquidation has launched into early access
https://store.steampowered.com/app/896250/Liquidation/

A fun little RTS, definitely give the dev some support!
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1986 Posts
August 05 2026 06:28 GMT
#238
On August 05 2026 10:36 ETisME wrote:
Liquidation has launched into early access
https://store.steampowered.com/app/896250/Liquidation/

A fun little RTS, definitely give the dev some support!

This genuinely looks good. They meshed warcraft and starcraft together beautifully i think.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Mrs Crabbleman
Profile Joined April 2026
34 Posts
August 06 2026 13:36 GMT
#239
On August 05 2026 10:36 ETisME wrote:
Liquidation has launched into early access
https://store.steampowered.com/app/896250/Liquidation/

A fun little RTS, definitely give the dev some support!



There are really 2 reasons why someone would try to peddle a Blizzard clone that is clearly worse than the original:

1. Make a fast dollar and move on. Like a horror movie with a small budget, it's just about clearing a low bar.

2. The devs actually think this is the way. The production is larger and it's like a passion project to recycle blue crystals and vespene geysers and glowy item chests because they have no other ideas.

In either case, why support it. It's like the last thing to support in this space: someone with 0 new ideas that is virtually preying on your weakness of being super nostalgic and having neurons fire at the sight of something familiar.

Hate me all you want, these games are trayish.

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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10847 Posts
August 06 2026 14:07 GMT
#240
On August 06 2026 22:36 Mrs Crabbleman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2026 10:36 ETisME wrote:
Liquidation has launched into early access
https://store.steampowered.com/app/896250/Liquidation/

A fun little RTS, definitely give the dev some support!



There are really 2 reasons why someone would try to peddle a Blizzard clone that is clearly worse than the original:

1. Make a fast dollar and move on. Like a horror movie with a small budget, it's just about clearing a low bar.

2. The devs actually think this is the way. The production is larger and it's like a passion project to recycle blue crystals and vespene geysers and glowy item chests because they have no other ideas.

In either case, why support it. It's like the last thing to support in this space: someone with 0 new ideas that is virtually preying on your weakness of being super nostalgic and having neurons fire at the sight of something familiar.

Hate me all you want, these games are trayish.

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It's good for the RTS genre in general, and it is better than Stormgate already by default. Better than most RTS released, I am about to try it out some more.
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