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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-11 00:20:35
January 11 2011 00:18 GMT
#22801
On January 11 2011 04:50 tube wrote:
rabidch where do you play
i just started again and im going to play some throneit tier 2 and get myself vouched for nadl


Do yourself a favor and don't bother for either, NA DotA is pretty much dead outside of literally 2 and sometimes 3 players. You won't learn any of the necessary shit for international play, like how to play with lag. NA players are pretty much irrelevant at this point.

PuG with Euros on IRC and try to get a semi-decent replay repertoire so you can get into some of the european IHLs. NA in terms of development is like a vine growing on a wall of fire, it ain't going anywhere.

Like if I were to go back to competitive dota, I would be on IRC looking for pick up games and then trying to get into one of older leagues.
Get it by your hands...
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
January 11 2011 01:25 GMT
#22802
lol what
i would rather play na dota for fun than play with lag
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
January 11 2011 05:30 GMT
#22803
Well I just started up HoN again after getting it for 10$ over break. I haven't played since the beta and there are a whole bunch of new heroes and items. Most of them are really great, except bubbles. Before a few heroes annoyed me, but the stuff bubbles says just drives me crazy. His voice + quotes are too distracting and I can't play him without wincing every few seconds. "sloooww down spooky" or "when I was you age, dirt was younger". WTF was S2 thinking?
Other than that the games is great. I had a little trouble finding the new honcast/honreplays? place to watch games. It is weird, not seeing teams like 5 and WHP, now there is SK and EG and MSI? I notice some big names like chu and his team mates dodo one other guy, and of course testie, but not much else. What happened to those big teams, did they split up and form new teams, or did other players take over?
Anyways after a few games it seems like I am somehow just as good except knowledge on items/builds/new heroes, which means I still suck. Do the people on the TL channel play 1400-1500 level games? I am already hating pub games, haven't given matchmaking a try yet.
I can already see the ending
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
January 11 2011 05:45 GMT
#22804
i would help you sir, but you have just insulted the most out of control ballin hero in the game
voiced by the same baller who did morla in the never ending story. that turtle was so baller, she didn't even care whether or not she cared.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
January 11 2011 05:51 GMT
#22805
On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
Well I just started up HoN again after getting it for 10$ over break. I haven't played since the beta and there are a whole bunch of new heroes and items. Most of them are really great, except bubbles. Before a few heroes annoyed me, but the stuff bubbles says just drives me crazy. His voice + quotes are too distracting and I can't play him without wincing every few seconds. "sloooww down spooky" or "when I was you age, dirt was younger". WTF was S2 thinking?

You dislike the hero because of his acknowledgements? Oh boy. Anyway, you can turn those off in options.

On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
Other than that the games is great. I had a little trouble finding the new honcast/honreplays? place to watch games.

honcast.com redirects to http://www.fileplay.net/channels/honcast . That's their new home.


On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
It is weird, not seeing teams like 5 and WHP, now there is SK and EG and MSI? I notice some big names like chu and his team mates dodo one other guy, and of course testie, but not much else. What happened to those big teams, did they split up and form new teams, or did other players take over?

Teams get switched up all the time. I'm not knowledgeable about it but I'll see what info I can provide: WHP got renamed to something else, 5 became SK (Testie is what matters, right?), and EG and MSI are fine teams.

On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
Anyways after a few games it seems like I am somehow just as good except knowledge on items/builds/new heroes, which means I still suck. Do the people on the TL channel play 1400-1500 level games? I am already hating pub games, haven't given matchmaking a try yet.

People only really play matchmaking now because you get goblin coins and don't have to work to get a game started. Just shoutout for an invite to a TMM group and maybe you'll get lucky.
Blyadischa
Profile Joined April 2010
419 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-11 06:08:03
January 11 2011 06:07 GMT
#22806
On January 11 2011 14:51 Durak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
Well I just started up HoN again after getting it for 10$ over break. I haven't played since the beta and there are a whole bunch of new heroes and items. Most of them are really great, except bubbles. Before a few heroes annoyed me, but the stuff bubbles says just drives me crazy. His voice + quotes are too distracting and I can't play him without wincing every few seconds. "sloooww down spooky" or "when I was you age, dirt was younger". WTF was S2 thinking?

You dislike the hero because of his acknowledgements? Oh boy. Anyway, you can turn those off in options.

Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
Other than that the games is great. I had a little trouble finding the new honcast/honreplays? place to watch games.

honcast.com redirects to http://www.fileplay.net/channels/honcast . That's their new home.


Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
It is weird, not seeing teams like 5 and WHP, now there is SK and EG and MSI? I notice some big names like chu and his team mates dodo one other guy, and of course testie, but not much else. What happened to those big teams, did they split up and form new teams, or did other players take over?

Teams get switched up all the time. I'm not knowledgeable about it but I'll see what info I can provide: WHP got renamed to something else, 5 became SK (Testie is what matters, right?), and EG and MSI are fine teams.

Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
Anyways after a few games it seems like I am somehow just as good except knowledge on items/builds/new heroes, which means I still suck. Do the people on the TL channel play 1400-1500 level games? I am already hating pub games, haven't given matchmaking a try yet.

People only really play matchmaking now because you get goblin coins and don't have to work to get a game started. Just shoutout for an invite to a TMM group and maybe you'll get lucky.


WHP -> x6 -> something -> probably something again -> EG, of course some roster changes happened but more or else.

Other big teams of beta kind of flopped. I forgot what Loda's team was in beta a year ago, but he was a brat and said HoN sucks when his all star dota team of him + kebap + akke kept losing and went back to dota, only to play hon again once in a while. I remember QuC, weren't the best but I remember them, they broke up due to Angel raging too hard.
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
January 11 2011 11:18 GMT
#22807
On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
Well I just started up HoN again after getting it for 10$ over break. I haven't played since the beta and there are a whole bunch of new heroes and items. Most of them are really great, except bubbles. Before a few heroes annoyed me, but the stuff bubbles says just drives me crazy. His voice + quotes are too distracting and I can't play him without wincing every few seconds. "sloooww down spooky" or "when I was you age, dirt was younger". WTF was S2 thinking?
Other than that the games is great. I had a little trouble finding the new honcast/honreplays? place to watch games. It is weird, not seeing teams like 5 and WHP, now there is SK and EG and MSI? I notice some big names like chu and his team mates dodo one other guy, and of course testie, but not much else. What happened to those big teams, did they split up and form new teams, or did other players take over?
Anyways after a few games it seems like I am somehow just as good except knowledge on items/builds/new heroes, which means I still suck. Do the people on the TL channel play 1400-1500 level games? I am already hating pub games, haven't given matchmaking a try yet.


Bubbles is the best hero in the game what crack are you smoking
Chains none
SwaY-
Profile Joined March 2009
Dominican Republic463 Posts
January 11 2011 12:32 GMT
#22808
How would I go about really upping my game? I'm around 1650 MMR(was well above 1700, just had a very very bad losing streak) and high 1700 PSR. That said, its pretty much with a group of friends, mostly a group of 3 and sometimes 4, so my solo MMR/PSR would be around 100 points less if I played solo. I understand the basics of the game but im just looking for tips from anyone thats good on what I can do because I feel I reached a plateau. And even though I play for fun of course, I want to get better .
Do it beautifully
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
January 11 2011 13:22 GMT
#22809
WHP changed to x6, then to Loaded, and now they're eG. The big names are still around, just under different tags.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
January 11 2011 15:06 GMT
#22810
On January 11 2011 10:25 tube wrote:
lol what
i would rather play na dota for fun than play with lag


Because NA DotA you won't learn shit. The top teams barely even bother scrimming against other top teams.

And lag is hardly the obstacle people make it out to be, if you're a competent player, lag plays a pretty small role in the game. Spikes is another story.
Get it by your hands...
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17719 Posts
January 11 2011 15:30 GMT
#22811
On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
"when I was you age, dirt was younger"


"When I was your age, dirt was Newerth"

At least get the quotes right. Perhaps they annoy you because you don't hear them right?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
January 11 2011 19:10 GMT
#22812
On January 12 2011 00:30 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
"when I was you age, dirt was younger"


"When I was your age, dirt was Newerth"

At least get the quotes right. Perhaps they annoy you because you don't hear them right?

I must have heard newer -> younger
This still makes no sense to me, but whatever. I have no problem with the hero in terms of skills/stats, but he definitely annoys me more than any other character.
I can already see the ending
iinsom
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia339 Posts
January 11 2011 23:32 GMT
#22813
On January 11 2011 20:18 LordWeird wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
Well I just started up HoN again after getting it for 10$ over break. I haven't played since the beta and there are a whole bunch of new heroes and items. Most of them are really great, except bubbles. Before a few heroes annoyed me, but the stuff bubbles says just drives me crazy. His voice + quotes are too distracting and I can't play him without wincing every few seconds. "sloooww down spooky" or "when I was you age, dirt was younger". WTF was S2 thinking?
Other than that the games is great. I had a little trouble finding the new honcast/honreplays? place to watch games. It is weird, not seeing teams like 5 and WHP, now there is SK and EG and MSI? I notice some big names like chu and his team mates dodo one other guy, and of course testie, but not much else. What happened to those big teams, did they split up and form new teams, or did other players take over?
Anyways after a few games it seems like I am somehow just as good except knowledge on items/builds/new heroes, which means I still suck. Do the people on the TL channel play 1400-1500 level games? I am already hating pub games, haven't given matchmaking a try yet.


Bubbles is the best hero in the game what crack are you smoking


He said Bubbles annoyed him, not he was bad
Total_Dark
Profile Joined November 2008
United States7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 05:39:24
January 12 2011 05:31 GMT
#22814
So, I gotta ask, why don't more teams ban morph? I've seen so many games where morph gets first picked and then proceeds to rape the entire game, but yet he's rarely banned. Just seems like teams dig themselves a pretty big hole by not banning him unless there's something I'm missing.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
January 12 2011 05:43 GMT
#22815
On January 11 2011 15:07 Blyadischa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 14:51 Durak wrote:
On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
Well I just started up HoN again after getting it for 10$ over break. I haven't played since the beta and there are a whole bunch of new heroes and items. Most of them are really great, except bubbles. Before a few heroes annoyed me, but the stuff bubbles says just drives me crazy. His voice + quotes are too distracting and I can't play him without wincing every few seconds. "sloooww down spooky" or "when I was you age, dirt was younger". WTF was S2 thinking?

You dislike the hero because of his acknowledgements? Oh boy. Anyway, you can turn those off in options.

On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
Other than that the games is great. I had a little trouble finding the new honcast/honreplays? place to watch games.

honcast.com redirects to http://www.fileplay.net/channels/honcast . That's their new home.


On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
It is weird, not seeing teams like 5 and WHP, now there is SK and EG and MSI? I notice some big names like chu and his team mates dodo one other guy, and of course testie, but not much else. What happened to those big teams, did they split up and form new teams, or did other players take over?

Teams get switched up all the time. I'm not knowledgeable about it but I'll see what info I can provide: WHP got renamed to something else, 5 became SK (Testie is what matters, right?), and EG and MSI are fine teams.

On January 11 2011 14:30 DCLXVI wrote:
Anyways after a few games it seems like I am somehow just as good except knowledge on items/builds/new heroes, which means I still suck. Do the people on the TL channel play 1400-1500 level games? I am already hating pub games, haven't given matchmaking a try yet.

People only really play matchmaking now because you get goblin coins and don't have to work to get a game started. Just shoutout for an invite to a TMM group and maybe you'll get lucky.


WHP -> x6 -> something -> probably something again -> EG, of course some roster changes happened but more or else.

Other big teams of beta kind of flopped. I forgot what Loda's team was in beta a year ago, but he was a brat and said HoN sucks when his all star dota team of him + kebap + akke kept losing and went back to dota, only to play hon again once in a while. I remember QuC, weren't the best but I remember them, they broke up due to Angel raging too hard.


LOADed -> got bought/whatever into EG
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
stanley_
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States816 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 05:59:04
January 12 2011 05:58 GMT
#22816
On January 12 2011 14:31 Total_Dark wrote:
So, I gotta ask, why don't more teams ban morph? I've seen so many games where morph gets first picked and then proceeds to rape the entire game, but yet he's rarely banned. Just seems like teams dig themselves a pretty big hole by not banning him unless there's something I'm missing.

because of the new pick and ban system 1st bans usually go to lucifer, pugna, vs., alchemist, broodmother, (visage, enigma possibly). Morph dodges the bans because those heroes are more versatile and can win a lane easier than morphling can.

when morphling is banned, he is usually banned in the 2nd phase.
hoorah
Total_Dark
Profile Joined November 2008
United States7 Posts
January 12 2011 06:33 GMT
#22817
Is vs really more ban worthy than morph in most cases? Sure, vs is a great ganker/support/roamer but morph scales so well and besides having shit range, he seems to win the lane he is in most of the time. Plus, vs doesn't seem to be getting banned a whole lot at the moment.

Still not convinced that teams aren't better off banning morph as their 3rd ban. =/
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
January 12 2011 07:11 GMT
#22818
i hate how badly you get swindled if you play solo tmm.

makes me wanna ragequit hon =(
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
January 12 2011 07:18 GMT
#22819
On January 12 2011 16:11 BlueRoyaL wrote:
i hate how badly you get swindled if you play solo tmm.

makes me wanna ragequit hon =(

not really, just play a carry, or go mid and rape, then control map.
or do what i do in smm, and do both. arach solo mid treads, blink/dom helm, blink/geos
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 12 2011 07:18 GMT
#22820
On January 12 2011 15:33 Total_Dark wrote:
Is vs really more ban worthy than morph in most cases? Sure, vs is a great ganker/support/roamer but morph scales so well and besides having shit range, he seems to win the lane he is in most of the time. Plus, vs doesn't seem to be getting banned a whole lot at the moment.

Still not convinced that teams aren't better off banning morph as their 3rd ban. =/

no, vs is not a common 1st phase ban unless theres a purpose for it
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