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chocorush
Profile Joined June 2009
696 Posts
March 26 2016 02:58 GMT
#661
I just don't remember having any issues with weak units on Revelations, but the units I liked from Hoshido were probably already good anyways and Corrin just carries really hard.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-26 03:17:44
March 26 2016 03:08 GMT
#662
The most egregious unit balance issues come from:

a) How hard it is to get the Sakurasquad going after Ch. 8 compared to just continuing to bank on Super-Corrin (since they recruit at like level 5 when Corrin can be like level 13 at that point)
b) Non-royal recruits from ch. 14 onward (the most hilariously unusable ones being Nyx in Ch. 15 and Odin in Ch. 17, but other units like Hinoka's retainers not really fairing much better)

Most of the midgame units like Takumi/Camilla's groups, Hayato, Saizo's ninja hell group, etc. are actually in a decent place, they just get totally overshadowed by Super-Corrin and Camilla who overcentralize the route up till the princes (comparisons to Rutger/Miledy/Perceval in FE6 are apt). You can reach full deployment on usable units just fine midgame, it's just that about half your team is going to get obsoleted by recruiting royals.

EDIT: Since it looks like we have 5 for the draft, we should figure out how we want to do the drafting. We can either just do it in this thread, or we can set up some time to all be on Discord and just knock out all the picks at once.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
March 26 2016 03:26 GMT
#663
We can just do it in thread, whats a time that works for everyone?
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-26 03:42:05
March 26 2016 03:40 GMT
#664
If we do it in the thread, there's no need for everyone to be on at once.

My preference would be Discord though, mostly because having a lot of sequential 1-word posts is not ideal. Though at the same time not unprecedented because Mafia voting threads, lol.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-26 03:48:25
March 26 2016 03:43 GMT
#665
On March 26 2016 12:40 TheYango wrote:
If we do it in the thread, there's no need for everyone to be on at once.

My preference would be Discord though, mostly because having a lot of sequential 1-word posts is not ideal, lol.

Alright lol, im going to have to figure out how to discord though...

EDIT: I think I figured it out.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
March 26 2016 03:47 GMT
#666
https://discord.gg/0uUig41JEbbhv54N

Alright, Yango, frudgy, choco, and alvntenie join
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chocorush
Profile Joined June 2009
696 Posts
March 26 2016 04:03 GMT
#667
Probably can't get on for another 20 min or so if you're waiting on me.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 26 2016 04:05 GMT
#668
I need to download the update for discord but will be there soon.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
March 26 2016 04:05 GMT
#669
On March 26 2016 13:03 chocorush wrote:
Probably can't get on for another 20 min or so if you're waiting on me.

Sounds good
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
March 26 2016 04:52 GMT
#670
Draft results in case anyone is interested, and so I don't forget:

Cricketer: Niles + Nina, Kaze + Midori, Xander + Siegbert, Flora, Beruka
Frudgey: Arthur + Percy, Effie, Camilla, Kana, Charlotte
Alventenie: Leo + Forrest, Keaton + Velouria, Selena, Nyx, Peri
TheYango: Silas + Sophie, Dwyer, Laslow + Soleil, Mozu, Izana
Chocorush: Elise, Odin + Ophelia, Shigure, Shura, Benny + Ignatius
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
March 26 2016 05:24 GMT
#671
Well if you're going to use the thread to make a draft at least "live report" some of the results.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 26 2016 05:28 GMT
#672
I assume people will write about their experiences once they get started on the drafts.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
March 26 2016 05:44 GMT
#673
Female +str/-luck corrin. Got through first 6 chapters. Nothing special.
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
March 26 2016 05:54 GMT
#674
I'll let you guys know how my draft is going....

...after I finish my original game. I still haven't beaten it once!

I'm such a slow player.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-26 07:31:12
March 26 2016 07:19 GMT
#675
Won't have time to do my draft run for a while, but current plan is +Mag/-Luck Diviner Avatar, paired with Jakob. Dwyer should get recruited right after Ch. 10 so that I can have Jakob as Paladin while still having a healer for early game after the freebie chapters (inheriting Nobility from the Avatar means he can stay ahead of the XP curve even while only getting staff XP). Silas x Azura to get Sophie as early as possible (which will still be pretty late because lol Azura pairings) who will be paired up with Silas for most of the game (Azura also gives them both Falcoknight, which will be invaluable for Rescue-skipping certain chapters). Laslow will have to do his best Xander impression by going to Ninja to have unpenalized 1-2 range and coming back to Hero to pick up Sol for EP bulk. Mozu should do most of the boss-killing, and Soleil will go Bow Knight to be my Ninja-killer for lategame.

Purely on unit strength I probably have the weakest draft due to not drafting any of the royals, but as far as team balance goes, I should have all my bases covered.
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chocorush
Profile Joined June 2009
696 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-26 14:49:41
March 26 2016 14:49 GMT
#676
I'm still thinking how this run will play out, and it's hard visualizing how useful benny/Ignatius will be. Matchup wise Ignatius is ending up with Felicia as the mother which seems pretty awkward. Neither are getting boots, and will probably need to reclass.

General plan is to start as +str - luk male dragon knight, and get shigure and ophelia paralogues ASAP. Odin will hopefully turn out to be a mini Xander and will be getting resources dumped into him.

Also hoping avatar + Felicia is enough to make bolt axe sufficient as soon as I hit rank C and that I can actually hit wyvern lords cap of 24 mag. The other considerations are + mag or - skill but both of those look like they can considerably ruin early game on lunatic.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-26 15:42:23
March 26 2016 15:40 GMT
#677
I am doing a +str/-mag Avatar with plans on doing a 20/5 reclass to spearmaster. Throw an arms scroll at him and run with lances rest of the game. I am hoping to have this by chapter 19 so Avatar can deal with that map handily.

Currently at Chapter 10 (freebie chapters were easy, Avatar handled them all solo since I didn't draft Kaze)

Chapter 7 was a pain as always since I used it to level up Jakob (I didn't draft any chapter 7 characters). I reclassed Jakob to Paladin as a level 2 Butler and without a weapon. Traded him Silas weapon on turn 3 and then had to play really careful to get him up to level 7/8 by the end of the fight. Worked out though and got past the level.

Chapter 8 was relatively straight forward. Jakob pair up with Arthur atm (til after chapter 10) and used him to clear the entire right/top side/boss of the map since I didn't draft Niles or Odin. I used Niles to clear out mages on left to ensure 3 villages though for the money. After this chapter Jakob is now on level with Avatar and I am not worried about him at all (D swords and D lances).

Chapter 9 was interesting. Recruited Nyx but did not feed her much exp as she is going to be my pair up for Leo. I got her past 10 so I can promote her later for better pair up stats. Overall took this map slowly and just cleared through dividing exp for Avatar/Jakob and gave Azura kills if possible since she joined here.

Chapter 10 I haven't started but will be interesting on how I want to handle it. I want to level Selena up as much as possible (but I saved Mozu paralogue for this as well, and I can probably give Azura some levels there too so she is a little sturdier). I will likely have to do what I did in my first playthrough and abuse everyone to keep the enemy clear because it gets dicey towards the end.

So far I have decent setup for my team, but I know Chapters 11, 12, and 13 are going to be very tough because I reclassed my staff user at chapter 7 and don't get Felicia until after that. Hopefully my tanky units can handle it until then (they should with their stats, but Takumi is going to be quite an annoyance)
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-26 17:19:43
March 26 2016 17:14 GMT
#678
Alright I seriously hate Niles right now. On Chapter 10 and hes missed 5 times on 83% chances....

Edit: 7 times. No problem.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 26 2016 17:14 GMT
#679
Good thing you get to ditch him after that chapter.
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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 26 2016 18:31 GMT
#680
Well, chapter 10 down. Changed a little bit of movement and Niles was able to land his 90% hits finally.

Onwards to deploying only 5 units! woohoo.
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