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On July 18 2015 16:47 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 15:54 Lucumo wrote:On July 18 2015 15:46 GTR wrote: don't think anyone in the world expected ken to make top 16 winners. You mean top 32, winners' dont think hes top 32 world but he sure was looking decent at mayhem
old school is really turning up. Azen beat fly, Ken top 32 winners + beat westballz, chu's still alive in losers (playing laudandus, who he already beat, along with KK and swedish delight), and so is darkrain, who knocked out wizzrobe.
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How come the prizepool is so low? The winner in Melee only gets 11k. Isn't EVO the largest and prestigious fighting game Tournament? I bet if someone like ESL or MLG came in with a 100k prize pool pot they could overtake EVO in prestige and viewership.
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On July 18 2015 18:27 ptbl wrote: How come the prizepool is so low? The winner in Melee only gets 11k. Isn't EVO the largest and prestigious fighting game Tournament? I bet if someone like ESL or MLG came in with a 100k prize pool pot they could overtake EVO in prestige and viewership.
First, if you're coming from other games, melee and fgc prize pools are generally smaller. And the Evo prize pool is especially weak. It's based in a formula dealing with registration fees and entry numbers. Many games get their prize pool supplemented by their publishers, who see Evo as an opportunity to promote their product to the community of their consumers. But Nintendo is historically way behind on the esports train. The tournament is really more about the prestige, now, than the prize money.
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back in my day, i was stuck with 240p 200kbps streams through shitty chinese p2p software!
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Like a year ago 720p 30fps was the best you could get
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The people that complain kill me, when smash isn't at evo next year because there aren't enough subs or viewers because it was run at a loss. They are killing their own game holding an event isn't cheap, internet isn't free.
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On July 18 2015 18:27 ptbl wrote: How come the prizepool is so low? The winner in Melee only gets 11k. Isn't EVO the largest and prestigious fighting game Tournament? I bet if someone like ESL or MLG came in with a 100k prize pool pot they could overtake EVO in prestige and viewership. Because fgc tourneys are traditionally run by and for players, and the players don't have that much money. Could it be different? Maybe.
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remember how MLG came back with melee last year at anaheim? sure there was a lot of money but a lot of players complained about how the tournament was ran so MLG decided not to go back to it.
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Didn't even know that was the reason.
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Honestly it sucks that MLG turned out that way. It was a pretty hype event with a lot of good matches and decent prize pool but it had a lot of issues.
Basically Melee was run by a few passionate people at MLG but they were pretty understaffed and it seemed like they didn't have a ton of support. Therefore the tournament wasn't run all that well and was way behind. I'm pretty sure they were also short on setups.
The other problem was that MLG likes their seeded pools + open bracket format and didn't stream a single open bracket game, only pools, so we missed a shit ton of games. This was also a huge complaint for SC2 as tons of talented players who came all the way from Korea didn't get on stream once, all this while MLG was practically setting records for downtime between matches
So yeah MLG Anaheim was pretty bad but it does suck that because THEY ran a bad event they decided to drop Melee and SC2 and just do COD or w/e
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even with 2 stock, smash 4 matches take so long -_-
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Well, the game is terribly slow, so that's not surprising. Today is pretty boring anyway, I'm only waiting for Melee. It's a shame there is no Virtua Fighter, Soul Calibur or some older version of Guilty Gear. At least there are still some side tournaments like King of Fighters or SFII.
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who did amsa and hax lose too?
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I dont even watch Smash but that finish was fucking crazy LOL
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I heard Light is from New Mexico, not Mexico.
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Oh, okay. Twitter lied to me.
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Belgium9942 Posts
On July 18 2015 20:47 GTR wrote: remember how MLG came back with melee last year at anaheim? sure there was a lot of money but a lot of players complained about how the tournament was ran so MLG decided not to go back to it. They had an insane amount of hype matches though, because of the top level group stages. I still dream of a tournament that would do that again, but it kind of conflicts with the typical grassroots tournament model. You need big sponsors to make up for the lack of tournament entries to fund the prize pool. On the other hand, you get a lot more high quality video footage you can monetize.
I think MLG didn't approach it wrong, they had a pretty strong concept that they just executed badly.
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