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FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto5008 Posts
March 30 2015 10:54 GMT
#21
On March 30 2015 18:11 OtherWorld wrote:
I don't know shit about CS:GO but the formatting of this article is incredible and top-tier level, great job.
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On March 30 2015 16:55 boxerfred wrote:
Great article. Please feature that.

I second this

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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9953 Posts
March 30 2015 11:02 GMT
#22
Amazing article guys!

Olof was so sick in Katowice, it was disgusting to watch
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 14:05:53
March 30 2015 11:17 GMT
#23
Wow, incredible article. Just when you thought Katowice coverage was perfect, poof, a huge Fnatic retrospective pops out of nowhere.

Congrats guys! :D
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nasze_zrodlo
Profile Joined February 2010
Cape Verde111 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 23:48:04
March 30 2015 16:40 GMT
#24
Very bad article. Nothing about the fact all titled cs veterans like VP, NIP, NAVI, HR, PENTA, ENVYUS are sure flusha and jw were cheating in the past and it s still possible they can do it now too. Also nothing about their winning in Katowice because of Krimz was ghosting for flusha in very important 1v1 round. Nothing about bugged not registered allu's awp shoots at 14-14 too. Nothing about lack of fans. Even some pros deny shaking hands with them. Nothing about fnatic hate towards community. Jw naming in public cs fans "retards" and flusha on twitter "fuck you cs community". Nothing about jw's and flusha's teammates banned by VAC. Nothing about jw, pronax and flushas hiding in guarded closed areas only while all other teams interact with fans. At Katowice flusha, jw and pronax were the only players scared of cs fans. Hiding from them while everyone else was giving autographs, making photos and talking with his fans. E.g. NIP or VP players have like 300 likes on facebook while fnatic players have like 20k only. Very biased article. Looks like done for fnatic and paid by fnatic. Only about positive side and nothing about much bigger negative side. Shame on the author of this.

User was warned for this post

edit: Why warning? All that are facts. Just check by yourself before assuming something wrong. Everything is 100% true and confirmed. Sources from the top:
- interviews by hltv, richard lewis, vblogs from taz, zeus, prawus, twitters, pashas stream etc.
- fnatic's pov from katowice 15
- allu's twitter and plenty of topics about it
- just check likes on facebooks and crowds reactions at DH or ESL
- jw's "reatards" fnatics pov from katowice, flushas "fuck cs community" his twitter
- there was a news at fragbite and hltv about flusha's friend and teammate from swedish lan was vacbaned and played on new account to avoid it. flusha played with him in the same team. Also JW and Flusha were playing with other players before 2013 and in 16 who have now VAC bans
- i was at Katowice twice in person so i now this from my eyes. Also relations from talks and forums confirm this behavior.
- facebooks accounts of those players
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 17:57:36
March 30 2015 17:57 GMT
#25
Got a picture with jw at gfinity 2 weekends ago. I guess i found his hiding place at the event...in the hall outside the main entrance to main stage...surrounded by fans...

Great article.
Useless wet fish.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
March 30 2015 18:04 GMT
#26
On March 31 2015 02:57 Capped wrote:
Got a picture with jw at gfinity 2 weekends ago. I guess i found his hiding place at the event...in the hall outside the main entrance to main stage...surrounded by fans...

Great article.


Post it, I want to see it
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
March 30 2015 19:08 GMT
#27
On March 30 2015 18:11 OtherWorld wrote:
I don't know shit about CS:GO but the formatting of this article is incredible and top-tier level, great job.

Thumbless and FO are absolute Gods at their craft. =)
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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
March 30 2015 19:34 GMT
#28
On March 31 2015 01:40 nasze_zrodlo wrote:
Very bad article. Nothing about the fact all titled cs veterans like VP, NIP, NAVI, HR, PENTA, ENVYUS are sure flusha and jw were cheating in the past and it s still possible they can do it now too. Also nothing about their winning in Katowice because of Krimz was ghosting for flusha in very important 1v1 round. Nothing about bugged not registered allu's awp shoots at 14-14 too. Nothing about lack of fans. Even some pros deny shaking hands with them. Nothing about fnatic hate towards community. Jw naming in public cs fans "retards" and flusha on twitter "fuck you cs community". Nothing about jw's and flusha's teammates banned by VAC. Nothing about jw, pronax and flushas hiding in guarded closed areas only while all other teams interact with fans. At Katowice flusha, jw and pronax were the only players scared of cs fans. Hiding from them while everyone else was giving autographs, making photos and talking with his fans. E.g. NIP or VP players have like 300 likes on facebook while fnatic players have like 20k only. Very biased article. Looks like done for fnatic and paid by fnatic. Only about positive side and nothing about much bigger negative side. Shame on the author of this.

Maybe because none of the cheating accusations have ever been verified so posting it on a news site would amount to slander? Crazy idea I know.
oscar62
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada417 Posts
March 30 2015 20:23 GMT
#29
if you think flusha or any of the other fnatic members cheated at any LAN you're a complete idiot
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
March 30 2015 21:24 GMT
#30
On March 31 2015 01:40 nasze_zrodlo wrote:
Very bad article. Nothing about the fact all titled cs veterans like VP, NIP, NAVI, HR, PENTA, ENVYUS are sure flusha and jw were cheating in the past and it s still possible they can do it now too. Also nothing about their winning in Katowice because of Krimz was ghosting for flusha in very important 1v1 round. Nothing about bugged not registered allu's awp shoots at 14-14 too. Nothing about lack of fans. Even some pros deny shaking hands with them. Nothing about fnatic hate towards community. Jw naming in public cs fans "retards" and flusha on twitter "fuck you cs community". Nothing about jw's and flusha's teammates banned by VAC. Nothing about jw, pronax and flushas hiding in guarded closed areas only while all other teams interact with fans. At Katowice flusha, jw and pronax were the only players scared of cs fans. Hiding from them while everyone else was giving autographs, making photos and talking with his fans. E.g. NIP or VP players have like 300 likes on facebook while fnatic players have like 20k only. Very biased article. Looks like done for fnatic and paid by fnatic. Only about positive side and nothing about much bigger negative side. Shame on the author of this.]

stick to hltv
nasze_zrodlo
Profile Joined February 2010
Cape Verde111 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 00:08:27
March 30 2015 23:55 GMT
#31
On March 31 2015 02:57 Capped wrote:
Got a picture with jw at gfinity 2 weekends ago. I guess i found his hiding place at the event...in the hall outside the main entrance to main stage...surrounded by fans...

Great article.


GF was only for people with expensive tickets so it wasnt open for everyone like at Katowice. Also JW was there as property member, not fnatic. Fnatic is very well aware they are on the blacklist of the csgo scene and they d get literally into a serious shit (source: VP's pov from katowice when neo and pasha were talking about that blacklist <when TSM didnt want to replay the round when taz got kicked so they wondering should they add TSM too> and that their 350+k army of their fans d throw piss/shit in ballons at blacklist members if pasha d tell them to do this :D)

On March 31 2015 05:23 oscar62 wrote:
if you think flusha or any of the other fnatic members cheated at any LAN you're a complete idiot

I only know they cheated with map architecture at dh14 and with ghosting at katowice 15. Also i know there is possibility of cheating on all csgo lans because there is no real cheating security like e.g. we had at korean scbw scene. No idea why hosts dont want to make finally a lan where there is no doubt there is no way to cheat and we can finally cut off that cheating problem. About other cheats like aim assist i only know those pro teams i listed are sure flusha and jw were cheating. I updated my post with sourcers so you can check by yourself those materials where pros say this.

RuskiPanda i dont see a problem in writing e.g. that way: "The best veteran players like zeus, shox, angel, pita, pasha, krystal, etc. said they are sure jw/flusha were cheating in official matches". This information is very important for the whole cheating/fnatic problem. Media should present ALL informations so the viewers can make their opinions based on all infos. If some important infos are not written than we have manipulation or propaganda.

User was temp banned for this post.
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
March 31 2015 08:26 GMT
#32
^You're not making any sense. Stop spewing bullshit. Strange, I don't see any links in your "sources", only name dropping and "I saw something in a video/itw/article/stream" still without links.

Get over it, you have the right to dislike Fnatic (I do not like them much either) but stop being ridiculous...
LiquipediaWanderer
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
March 31 2015 09:19 GMT
#33
Because the amount of likes in facebook and facebook accounts of fnatic's players is so very legit way to know if people are cheating. Plenty of other people were in Katowice too and they saw with their own eyes, or were you somehow seeing the player's screens too?

Spewing completely utter nonsense bs and mob pitchfork mentality doesn't really help anything, even worse is to start insulting, harassing, sending death threats etc. Unfortunately this seems to be a trend these days and not only in cs or another game community. What next, start threatening Gaben because you think Valve should ban them?
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 09:33:55
March 31 2015 09:25 GMT
#34
Shox and forest never outright said they saw them cheating, only that they found some of flusha's movement and shooting suspicious. Obviously flusha didn't do himself any favours with the mouse lifting crap, but he is still innocent until proven otherwise.

and honestly the more fnatic actually started winning the less suspicious behavior you actually saw from the team.

Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
March 31 2015 12:13 GMT
#35
On March 31 2015 18:25 Ysellian wrote:
Shox and forest never outright said they saw them cheating, only that they found some of flusha's movement and shooting suspicious. Obviously flusha didn't do himself any favours with the mouse lifting crap, but he is still innocent until proven otherwise.

and honestly the more fnatic actually started winning the less suspicious behavior you actually saw from the team.



ffxiv enjoyer
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 13:19:39
March 31 2015 13:14 GMT
#36
There is a Hitchens quote that is quite fitting here: "what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence". Pro opinions should ofc weigh heavy, but then we can have anyone banned by the logic of x player said y possibly cheated, therefore he cheated.

I really wish we could avoid this topic, but you can't escape them haters
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