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On February 15 2015 03:24 johnbongham wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 03:22 DEN1ED wrote:On February 15 2015 03:17 ptbl wrote:
I said this during Aspen, but Nazgul really needs to make some roster changes. It's been what a month now? I see no improvements at all. It looks like the team relies on gun skill only. I see no strategy. It seems like they don't practice or scrimm at all. I think Liquid should stop sending them to tournaments and have the team solely focus on practicing. They were at Aspen, Clutchcon, and now this. You act like a month is a long time... That's nothing. This isn't starcraft 2. You either have a competitive team or you don't. Liquid doesn't. You hinder the improvement of your top players when they are stuck with someone who doesn't perform on their level.
If you really think a month is enough to make a recently formed NA team be on par with EU teams , you don't really follow CS that much.
Also Flipside are a good team with CS legends like Markeloff and upcoming talent like Worldedit and Simple (who isn't even here) and they practice with other european teams all the time.
Seriously , People want Liquid to be some NA all star powerhouse that starts trickshotting Fnatic on the way to Majors within a month of them forming.The sooner people realize that isn't gonna happen the better.
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On February 15 2015 03:26 DEN1ED wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 03:24 johnbongham wrote:On February 15 2015 03:22 DEN1ED wrote:On February 15 2015 03:17 ptbl wrote:
I said this during Aspen, but Nazgul really needs to make some roster changes. It's been what a month now? I see no improvements at all. It looks like the team relies on gun skill only. I see no strategy. It seems like they don't practice or scrimm at all. I think Liquid should stop sending them to tournaments and have the team solely focus on practicing. They were at Aspen, Clutchcon, and now this. You act like a month is a long time... That's nothing. This isn't starcraft 2. You either have a competitive team or you don't. Liquid doesn't. You hinder the improvement of your top players when they are stuck with someone who doesn't perform on their level. Ok, but even if they added say hiko over daps they still won't beat nV so by your logic what's the point?
If they added Hiko over daps they beat flipside easily and possibly qualify for a major thus earning even more experience for their better players and improving at a faster pace. This is CS, sometimes you just know when a player isn't gonna cut it at the top-level. Why is this so hard to understand. There is literally nothing about daps' play that leads me to believe it will improve. I feel like you aren't even watching the same game as me.
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Liquid is probably not going to mess with the line-up for some time.
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They aren't out of it yet.
Although I do agree that making the qualifier seems like a pretty tall order at this point. No matter. I'll continue to cheer for them today, and if they don't make it, I'll hope they can grow enough as a team so they'll have more success in the future.
This is Liquid, and I have always appreciated their approach of not immediately firing players who don't bring in the big results, but stick with them through their ups and downs. And this team is still so new the paint on the logo is barely dry.
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On February 15 2015 03:29 johnbongham wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 03:26 DEN1ED wrote:On February 15 2015 03:24 johnbongham wrote:On February 15 2015 03:22 DEN1ED wrote:On February 15 2015 03:17 ptbl wrote:
I said this during Aspen, but Nazgul really needs to make some roster changes. It's been what a month now? I see no improvements at all. It looks like the team relies on gun skill only. I see no strategy. It seems like they don't practice or scrimm at all. I think Liquid should stop sending them to tournaments and have the team solely focus on practicing. They were at Aspen, Clutchcon, and now this. You act like a month is a long time... That's nothing. This isn't starcraft 2. You either have a competitive team or you don't. Liquid doesn't. You hinder the improvement of your top players when they are stuck with someone who doesn't perform on their level. Ok, but even if they added say hiko over daps they still won't beat nV so by your logic what's the point? If they added Hiko over daps they beat flipside easily and possibly qualify for a major thus earning even more experience for their better players and improving at a faster pace. This is CS, sometimes you just know when a player isn't gonna cut it at the top-level. Why is this so hard to understand. There is literally nothing about daps' play that leads me to believe it will improve. I feel like you aren't even watching the same game as me.
Sorry, apparently the rest of us aren't some sort of CS prophet like you.
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On February 15 2015 03:25 pyro19 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 03:17 ptbl wrote:
I said this during Aspen, but Nazgul really needs to make some roster changes. It's been what a month now? I see no improvements at all. It looks like the team relies on gun skill only. I see no strategy. It seems like they don't practice or scrimm at all. I think Liquid should stop sending them to tournaments and have the team solely focus on practicing. They were at Aspen, Clutchcon, and now this. Kneejerking at it's finest. It was bad enough having you complain all the time about the Dota 2 team and now the CSGO team too? An NA team that's formed 2 months ago with youngsters as a core losing to a EU team isn't that big a deal. If you wanted instant success , go support Fnatic or Envy.
Exactly, people underestimate how good tier 2 European teams can be because they see fnatic and nV just destroy these teams but those two are in a league of their own at the moment.
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Lose pistol against pistol
Win Pistol against Buy anyways.
CSGO is stupid sometimes.
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markeloff 1.6ing 
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Ah, thanks for the heads up!
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Liquid should consider lu changes if they lose against CPH Wolves.
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On February 15 2015 04:24 Mensol wrote:
Liquid should consider lu changes if they lose against CPH Wolves.
A bit too early to consider roster changes, but there should definitely be warning bells ringing should that happen
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WTF is wrong with ESL? They keep changing to the player desk way too early, they even do it even whilst they are shooting at each other, thus we repeaedly miss the kills and the gun grabs.
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Looking good for TL. Only one round down on T-side Mirage, and CPH Wolves are on a save.
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...and as I say that, the mighty pistol proves its superiority again...
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6 T rounds is good enough, win the pistol and they're favored to do this
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EPT
