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On July 03 2013 23:59 Yacobs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 23:17 NB wrote: For paladin there is a 2nd active: Down arrow + A (i play on PC) turns him into a statue, invulnerable to all damage but cant move and lose mana over time. As far as i know, that is not written anywhere.
I am just frustrated because i wanted to give this to my cousins later after i finished. But since there is no easy difficulty, as 8-15 years old kids, they just gona give up after 2 rooms. And having no online guides doesnt help either.
I did google that wiki linked but its still far from completion and not yet user friendly. That would be kinda sad, to be honest. When I was 8 years old, I was playing NES platformers which are a lot harder than Rogue Legacy as was the rest of the young adult population. If your _15 year old_ cousin can't handle Rogue Legacy then it's time for that kid to man up.
I know right, kids these days must be massive noobs growing up with all these easymode games that give you achievements for finishing tutorials.
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yeah nb you need more confidence in your young relatives. If a 15 y/o cant figure this game out then he is completely hopeless tbh
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Some general tips for people having a hard time:
1. Having high HP helps. Upgrade your HP a lot. Keep in mind that every upgrade increases the price of all the others.
2. Increasing your damage also helps a lot. You will get hit less and go further in the dungeon.
3. The Barbarian is really easy to make progress with. You get 150% HP and a ridiculous special that removes projectiles from the screen.
4. Use Grace Runes and the Architect. Grace Runes help out so much because they stop the dungeon from scaling too sharply. The Architect makes it a lot easier to get more runes and gear blueprints. Don't be afraid to use the Architect liberally.
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My favorite build is to stack Vampirism/Life Steal and use the Hokade class. Best defense is a good offense. Worked especially well against the Forest boss since the Hokade was my only class that could one-shot the skull summons. Also ended up working against the north area boss. Dishing out huge attack damage helps prevent fatigue due to neverending boss engagements. Haven't made it to the south area boss yet, though.
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What annoys me is a triple Archmage character selection... I wish I would've never unlocked the mage,
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On July 04 2013 00:24 PassiveAce wrote: yeah nb you need more confidence in your young relatives. If a 15 y/o cant figure this game out then he is completely hopeless tbh too bad, they are borned and raised in NA and kids like that are 9/10 under the influenced of modern gaming culture. They have a hard time playing Plants vs Zombies and LoonTD on Iphone. Tried to show them Counterstrike, war3, tf2 but thats just too much information for them to process. I too grew up playing contra and mario and can see the clear gap between generations. Casual market will go for what is carter for them instead of seeking anything harder/more difficult. The only reason why we didnt do that were because those hard games were the ONLY choice we had in the past.]
It is definitely just a lazy part on the developer too. Most game development cycles have their own spreadsheet that record guideline data/stat that could be really easy to translate into wiki format. Some even use wiki format straight up now aday. Having a guideline like such will open the game to a wider market, increase sale rev etc... Worst case you could always gift the game to multiple famous youtuber to do Lets play series for you presale. I think rogue legacy just didnt do their post production, PR part to its full potential.
Question: If you have to play the game again from scratch, what would be your investment tree? I think personally i will just stop at paladin and max out HP/attack since i dont really think the more advance classes paid off(may be assassin but still)
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I was born and raised in NA and I was playing broodwar campaign when I was 9. You should sit them down in a small, poorly lit room with two computers and 1v1 them until they become men. Def need an intervention here
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Is it possible to have multiple save files for this game? I would like to keep my and my gf's game separate if thats possible but i didnt see an option for it. Am I blind?
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On July 04 2013 01:25 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 00:24 PassiveAce wrote: yeah nb you need more confidence in your young relatives. If a 15 y/o cant figure this game out then he is completely hopeless tbh Question: If you have to play the game again from scratch, what would be your investment tree? I think personally i will just stop at paladin and max out HP/attack since i dont really think the more advance classes paid off(may be assassin but still)
As quick as possible to Shinobi/Hokage. Probably avoid Mage until later if possible, even though you won't get the +% gold tech, because I hate Mage and haven't played Miner/Spelunker that often anyway. When I wanted gold, Hokage was just way faster.
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On July 04 2013 01:25 NB wrote: too bad, they are borned and raised in NA and kids like that are 9/10 under the influenced of modern gaming culture. They have a hard time playing Plants vs Zombies and LoonTD on Iphone. Tried to show them Counterstrike, war3, tf2 but thats just too much information for them to process. I too grew up playing contra and mario and can see the clear gap between generations. Casual market will go for what is carter for them instead of seeking anything harder/more difficult. The only reason why we didnt do that were because those hard games were the ONLY choice we had in the past.]
That just means they aren't gamers. Like, if my young cousin goes to the movies 5 times a year to see the latest special effects fest, that doesn't make him a movie fan. It just makes him a regular kid with bad taste. I wouldn't even bother trying to introduce him to a, say, Kubrick movie.
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On July 04 2013 02:18 Yacobs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 01:25 NB wrote: too bad, they are borned and raised in NA and kids like that are 9/10 under the influenced of modern gaming culture. They have a hard time playing Plants vs Zombies and LoonTD on Iphone. Tried to show them Counterstrike, war3, tf2 but thats just too much information for them to process. I too grew up playing contra and mario and can see the clear gap between generations. Casual market will go for what is carter for them instead of seeking anything harder/more difficult. The only reason why we didnt do that were because those hard games were the ONLY choice we had in the past.]
That just means they aren't gamers. Like, if my young cousin goes to the movies 5 times a year to see the latest special effects fest, that doesn't make him a movie fan. It just makes him a regular kid with bad taste. I wouldn't even bother trying to introduce him to a, say, Kubrick movie. To the opposite of that, they play a lot of game. There was a period where their house satellite broke down and there were no kid channels on the TV. All they did were play flash games on a penguin site(its famous among the kids). Few years ago the oldest of them got an iphone from their relatives, they have been going to the public library just for the wifi download free games. That was after my uncle limited the house internet usage due to their game consumption.
But yeah, this is off topic too much.
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On July 04 2013 01:49 PassiveAce wrote: Is it possible to have multiple save files for this game? I would like to keep my and my gf's game separate if thats possible but i didnt see an option for it. Am I blind?
C:\Users\Owner\Documents\SavedGames\RogueLegacy\RogueLegacyStorageContainer Game is saved in folder called AllPlayers. Renaming it causes game to think there is no save file, and you can change it back later.
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my family tree has grown beyond imagination
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My favorite class so far definitely is paladin. Im starting to master the damage block and boy is it good. Some could argue that barb is better but i think barb doesnt scale as well with vamp gears as paladin. Im starting to invade Maya now as i could clear the jungle part quite handily(not the boss though). Is there any trick into the Axe tossing thing? i never manage to get a prize there.
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On July 04 2013 14:39 dae wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 01:49 PassiveAce wrote: Is it possible to have multiple save files for this game? I would like to keep my and my gf's game separate if thats possible but i didnt see an option for it. Am I blind? C:\Users\Owner\Documents\SavedGames\RogueLegacy\RogueLegacyStorageContainer Game is saved in folder called AllPlayers. Renaming it causes game to think there is no save file, and you can change it back later. works perfectly, thanks a ton!
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Just started New Game +6 and the monsters start off around level 280 with 5 Grace Runes equipped. I'm curious how many New Game + there are, or how many its even possible to do.
I reached NG+12 and there's no end in sight.
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I don't understand why there's so many New Game +. As I said, the enemies are way too difficult to fight, and the bosses are a cake-walk with the right class. The only incentive is stat upgrades from Fairy chests, however the enemies scale much faster than the upgrades, so what's the point lol
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Im pretty sure the main point of New game + is for the hardcore fans to show up their epenises.... But im pretty sure most people could just run around with assassin, for chests, then lock down and get barb for bosses anyway. If you are tired of the new game+ modes, i recommend back up your save file, then wipe your stats and do speedrunning.
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http://cellardoorgames.com/blog/?p=802
Patch Notes v1.0.12 ————————————————————————————————-
Major Changes: - Added support for DirectInput controllers (toggle-able from options screen). - Alexander will now spawn higher level mobs on NG+ and above. - All bosses now break Paladin secret move, not just the final boss. - Fixed bug where controller hardware was being polled too often, resulting in significant lag for some systems.
General fixes: - Optimization tweaks to rendering. People should find a small improvement to framerate. - Typo fixes to profile card crit chance. - Fix to game sometimes crashing during Alexander fight. - Fixed bug where beating the game with Calypso’s compass would crash the game. - Fixed bug where architect fee could carry over to NG+ - Fixed bug with architect fee text overlap on NG+ bonus. - Typo fixes in Journal, and Paladin, and Translocator spell description. - Alexander boss floor and roof lowered to prevent him from going too low. - Enemies that are split during timestop are now immune to timestop until it’s reactivated (Feature). - Enlarged projectile pool.
Balance Changes: - Architect fee raised from 30% to 40%.
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If you want easy runs NG and NG+1 Hokage, Lick (pref with crows) & Dragon is the way to go. On NG+5 I prefer Spellsword (pref with flame shield) or Assassin (20 min boss runs).
Grace Runes +4, Dash +1, runes. I hope they will change some things because the game is really bloody easy as you go on.
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