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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 03 2013 20:10 GMT
#4441
On June 04 2013 01:47 sva wrote:
I'm suprised the Heat don't give the ball to MIke Miller a little more for 3 pointers. The guy makes most of his 3's in games, but he never gets to shoot. Hopefully the pacers can clutch this series at the Heat tonight though.





Mike Miller hurt his back in one of the games just from taking a 3 pointer. Not exactly a dependable body out there.
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sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States749 Posts
June 03 2013 20:30 GMT
#4442
On June 04 2013 05:10 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 01:47 sva wrote:
I'm suprised the Heat don't give the ball to MIke Miller a little more for 3 pointers. The guy makes most of his 3's in games, but he never gets to shoot. Hopefully the pacers can clutch this series at the Heat tonight though.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=771MZUtK8Tk


Mike Miller hurt his back in one of the games just from taking a 3 pointer. Not exactly a dependable body out there.




He may not be, but he shot 2 three pointers last night and sank both of them. Seeing as he probably isn't the most heavily guarded heat player, you would think he would get a few more oppurtunities to take 3's.

I don't want them to win, but it just seems that way to me.

BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
June 03 2013 20:47 GMT
#4443
Mike Miller hasn't been used all year really. It's kind of strange because he made like 7-8 3 pointers in the final finals game to clinch it for the Heat last year and he had a pretty good playoffs yet he has been riding the bench ever since. I guess Spoelstra has seen something off the court that he didn't like? Even the limited playing time he has gotten this year he has been fairly productive. I tried googling about this a couple months ago and the only thing I could find was this from the Sun-Sentinel:

Q: Hey Ira, it is surprising to me that I have yet to hear you mention a possible reason why Erik Spoelstra is not playing Mike Miller. Generally you and I agree on things and whenever I read your publications, we seem to see eye-to-eye. So with that, I pose this to you, which I have yet to read on your Twitter or written articles: I believe the Heat are avoiding playing Mike Miller not only to give him rest, but to see if they can find a cheaper replacement for him in Rashard Lewis, should the Heat be forced to amnesty Mike this offseason (which looks inevitable). I am sure someone from above (Pat Riley) is telling Spo to see how much benefit the cheaper Rashard can give them over the more expensive Miller. -- George, Toronto.

A: I have frequently mentioned the likelihood of Miller being amnestied. But there is no way the Heat, at any point this season, are going to sacrifice the moment for the future. The decisions are being made on what Spoelstra believes can help his team win now. Pat Riley has plenty of influence, but I doubt it extends to Erik's in-the-moment-decisions. Beyond that, Rashard has a player option for next season, so he could leave anyway, in search of more than his minimum salary.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
June 03 2013 21:59 GMT
#4444
he's not shooting cause he's not open obviously. u won't see him have 8 open looks to sink 7-8 3points vs the pacers.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 22:16:48
June 03 2013 22:13 GMT
#4445
On June 04 2013 06:59 rei wrote:
he's not shooting cause he's not open obviously. u won't see him have 8 open looks to sink 7-8 3points vs the pacers.


Who are you talking about? Miller? He's average 6.9 minutes in the Playoffs combined. Also, he's made every shot he's taken against the Pacers (3 for 3, all 3pt attempts). So yeah, huh? He's only not shooting because he hasn't been playing. Frankly, I don't know why they didn't go to him sooner. His release is far faster than Battier and if you're not going to be able to defend West, put a guy out there who can stretch at the other end at least.
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States749 Posts
June 03 2013 22:41 GMT
#4446
It's good to see a few people agree with me on Mike Miller. I mean give the guy a chance to sink 12 points in 4 attempts. He probably has a better shooting average then most of the players out there besides maybe Ray Allen, but Allen is getting pretty old.

I mean just put him in a few minutes try to get him a few shots then when he gets guarded harder take him back out. Rince/repeat.


I think it's rediculous that Hibbert got fined 75k for saying "no homo" though. The NBA is getting so rediculous, the refs have to much power with technical fouls. It's getting to the point where it's unbearable to watch at times.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
June 03 2013 22:49 GMT
#4447
Everytime Mike Miller is on the court and there's a pause in play it looks like he was just in grueling close courters combat.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
June 03 2013 22:53 GMT
#4448
On June 04 2013 07:41 sva wrote:
I think it's rediculous that Hibbert got fined 75k for saying "no homo" though. The NBA is getting so rediculous, the refs have to much power with technical fouls. It's getting to the point where it's unbearable to watch at times.


Those are two separate issues. I agree that NBA can be terrible to watch on a fairly regular basis, but Hibbert absolutely has to answer for saying what he said.
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
June 03 2013 22:55 GMT
#4449
Yea, dude is seriously injured and cant play D, why have him out there when you can have Ray Allen who can't play D, but at least can run off a few screens. Also Battier is a much more cerebral player, makes good decisions, good communication, good attitude, and can sustain a suitable amount of minutes without needing an entire games rest. Battier is clearly the best option of Miller, Allen or himself.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 23:21:28
June 03 2013 23:13 GMT
#4450
The No homo remark is the case of media PC-ness taking over. I am not sure how many people are actually legitimately offended by that. Jason Collins probably laughed at the joke. He also probably is laughing his way to the Heat roster as well considering how much they could have used him this series.
Freeeeeeedom
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
June 03 2013 23:15 GMT
#4451
Huge game today. Huge game. I'm more amped than I have been for a sports game in years. Go Lebron!
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
June 03 2013 23:20 GMT
#4452
On June 04 2013 07:13 BoZiffer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 06:59 rei wrote:
he's not shooting cause he's not open obviously. u won't see him have 8 open looks to sink 7-8 3points vs the pacers.


Who are you talking about? Miller? He's average 6.9 minutes in the Playoffs combined. Also, he's made every shot he's taken against the Pacers (3 for 3, all 3pt attempts). So yeah, huh? He's only not shooting because he hasn't been playing. Frankly, I don't know why they didn't go to him sooner. His release is far faster than Battier and if you're not going to be able to defend West, put a guy out there who can stretch at the other end at least.


He managed to get open 3 times in 6 games, of course they are not ganna give him more minutes. shut down defense!
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
June 03 2013 23:39 GMT
#4453
On June 04 2013 08:20 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 07:13 BoZiffer wrote:
On June 04 2013 06:59 rei wrote:
he's not shooting cause he's not open obviously. u won't see him have 8 open looks to sink 7-8 3points vs the pacers.


Who are you talking about? Miller? He's average 6.9 minutes in the Playoffs combined. Also, he's made every shot he's taken against the Pacers (3 for 3, all 3pt attempts). So yeah, huh? He's only not shooting because he hasn't been playing. Frankly, I don't know why they didn't go to him sooner. His release is far faster than Battier and if you're not going to be able to defend West, put a guy out there who can stretch at the other end at least.


He managed to get open 3 times in 6 games, of course they are not ganna give him more minutes. shut down defense!


He's only played in 3 games this series for a grand total of 18 minutes (12 of which game in game 6 alone). You have an obvious lack of perspective...
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
June 03 2013 23:41 GMT
#4454
On June 04 2013 08:15 -_- wrote:
Huge game today. Huge game. I'm more amped than I have been for a sports game in years. Go Lebron!

dude bro.
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 00:01:39
June 04 2013 00:00 GMT
#4455
I'm pumped as fuck for this game, nervous as fuck too.

on the mike miller topic, i always thought it was because of the ray allen acquisition. i love miller though...he's one of the main reasons we won the ship last year. clutch ass shooting. i hope he gets more playing time, he's bigger than allen i feel like he can get a shot off better against a big team like the pacers.

On June 04 2013 08:41 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 08:15 -_- wrote:
Huge game today. Huge game. I'm more amped than I have been for a sports game in years. Go Lebron!



Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
June 04 2013 00:04 GMT
#4456
On June 04 2013 08:39 BoZiffer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 08:20 rei wrote:
On June 04 2013 07:13 BoZiffer wrote:
On June 04 2013 06:59 rei wrote:
he's not shooting cause he's not open obviously. u won't see him have 8 open looks to sink 7-8 3points vs the pacers.


Who are you talking about? Miller? He's average 6.9 minutes in the Playoffs combined. Also, he's made every shot he's taken against the Pacers (3 for 3, all 3pt attempts). So yeah, huh? He's only not shooting because he hasn't been playing. Frankly, I don't know why they didn't go to him sooner. His release is far faster than Battier and if you're not going to be able to defend West, put a guy out there who can stretch at the other end at least.


He managed to get open 3 times in 6 games, of course they are not ganna give him more minutes. shut down defense!


He's only played in 3 games this series for a grand total of 18 minutes (12 of which game in game 6 alone). You have an obvious lack of perspective...


The Coach is never wrong, he knew miller doesn't have the ability to get any open looks that's why he's not playing, and he only got 12 minutes cause birdman was banned.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 00:24:44
June 04 2013 00:23 GMT
#4457
On June 04 2013 08:39 BoZiffer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 08:20 rei wrote:
On June 04 2013 07:13 BoZiffer wrote:
On June 04 2013 06:59 rei wrote:
he's not shooting cause he's not open obviously. u won't see him have 8 open looks to sink 7-8 3points vs the pacers.


Who are you talking about? Miller? He's average 6.9 minutes in the Playoffs combined. Also, he's made every shot he's taken against the Pacers (3 for 3, all 3pt attempts). So yeah, huh? He's only not shooting because he hasn't been playing. Frankly, I don't know why they didn't go to him sooner. His release is far faster than Battier and if you're not going to be able to defend West, put a guy out there who can stretch at the other end at least.


He managed to get open 3 times in 6 games, of course they are not ganna give him more minutes. shut down defense!


He's only played in 3 games this series for a grand total of 18 minutes (12 of which game in game 6 alone). You have an obvious lack of perspective...

And you don't understand that he simply can't physically play at a high intensity for more minutes and not be a liability on defense and offense besides making a few open shots. Do you think that if all you do is sit in the corner and wait for shots you should be on the floor?

Also 3-3 doesn't mean you're gonna be 100% for the entire series just fyi. In most cases he'll average down to at best 50% in the long run.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
June 04 2013 00:26 GMT
#4458
Another retirement announcement, and this time it's Jason Kidd.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
June 04 2013 00:31 GMT
#4459
On June 04 2013 09:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 08:39 BoZiffer wrote:
On June 04 2013 08:20 rei wrote:
On June 04 2013 07:13 BoZiffer wrote:
On June 04 2013 06:59 rei wrote:
he's not shooting cause he's not open obviously. u won't see him have 8 open looks to sink 7-8 3points vs the pacers.


Who are you talking about? Miller? He's average 6.9 minutes in the Playoffs combined. Also, he's made every shot he's taken against the Pacers (3 for 3, all 3pt attempts). So yeah, huh? He's only not shooting because he hasn't been playing. Frankly, I don't know why they didn't go to him sooner. His release is far faster than Battier and if you're not going to be able to defend West, put a guy out there who can stretch at the other end at least.


He managed to get open 3 times in 6 games, of course they are not ganna give him more minutes. shut down defense!


He's only played in 3 games this series for a grand total of 18 minutes (12 of which game in game 6 alone). You have an obvious lack of perspective...

And you don't understand that he simply can't physically play at a high intensity for more minutes and not be a liability on defense and offense besides making a few open shots. Do you think that if all you do is sit in the corner and wait for shots you should be on the floor?

Also 3-3 doesn't mean you're gonna be 100% for the entire series just fyi. In most cases he'll average down to at best 50% in the long run.


Look, I'm not saying he has to be a starter and be expected to score 20+ but if you're thinking that he's incapable of playing more significant minutes then you're mistaken. Played in 59 games during the year and averaged 16-ish minutes. Given Battier's significant struggles shooting the ball, or the Heat in general, there is very little argument you can mount to say he shouldn't play more minutes. Battier has also been very ineffective defending West inside so there its not like you're trading a great defensive presence for a poor one...seems like at worst its a wash with a potential offensive upside.
Teggy03
Profile Joined April 2011
34 Posts
June 04 2013 00:38 GMT
#4460
Does anybody think that the Pacer's Jerseys blending in with the color of the court is in any way a detriment to their vision on the floor as they are playing? Sorta hard to see the other players, but I suppose it looks different from the angle a player would have on the floor.
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