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BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
June 02 2013 20:16 GMT
#4401
On June 03 2013 03:10 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
http://deadspin.com/dwyane-wade-wants-the-ball-because-hes-more-than-lebro-510909293

I think he's trying to tell us something, but I haven't figured it out yet


Reads to me he's in denial about his declining skills and relevance...but thats just me.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 02 2013 20:55 GMT
#4402
On June 03 2013 04:52 slyboogie wrote:
For personal financial reasons, I'd like the pacers to win game 7 but the fact is, the Heat are the best team in the league and going to game 7 doesn't mean you can't win the championship. They went to two game sevens last year.

It's less that they're going to game 7 and more that they looked horrible in game 6.
SpiritAshura
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1271 Posts
June 02 2013 21:10 GMT
#4403
On June 03 2013 05:16 BoZiffer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 03:10 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
http://deadspin.com/dwyane-wade-wants-the-ball-because-hes-more-than-lebro-510909293

I think he's trying to tell us something, but I haven't figured it out yet


Reads to me he's in denial about his declining skills and relevance...but thats just me.

I suppose you could say injuries = declining skills, but I think the injuries are the more important factor. Although him not staying healthy so many years in a row is a HUGE issue. I dunno if pure willpower of Wade/Bosh trying to do more is the answer vs Indiana. I'm starting to think Chalmers and other non-conventional choices would be better suited for a game that's tomorrow night.
SpiritAshura
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1271 Posts
June 02 2013 21:12 GMT
#4404
On June 03 2013 03:42 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Btw, I'm expecting a big bounceback game from both Wade and Bosh in Game 7. Even if they don't end up scoring 20 pts each, I think we'll be seeing a re-energized Wade and Bosh to try to quiet the recent criticism. Wade, especially, has too much pride for anything else. I'd be very surprised to see Wade held to pedestrian numbers again.

Where do you expect bosh to score though? The pacers are HUGE defensively...the only way I can see this happening is if Bosh can get his jumper going EARLY in the game (1st/maybe 2nd quarter) to open up driving lanes. They haven't been able to penetrate the paint beyond lebron and occasional cuts from cole/chalmers from what I've seen.

Birdman being back won't hurt, I'm sure he'll be going full force for a game 7.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 02 2013 21:22 GMT
#4405
Birdman requires the rest of the team to get going though. He's not going to generate any shots by himself, he needs someone to draw enough help that he's either open under the basket or has an easy offensive rebound. The only improvement he'd have been over Joel Anthony in g6 is that he'd have caught the one or maybe 2 passes that Joel dropped. That's pretty much it.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
June 02 2013 21:24 GMT
#4406
man i hate to say this because wade's been one of my favorite players for a long time but he's clearly in what seems to be an insurmountable decline.

Always missing those shots he could make with his eyes closed years ago, and I swear he travels at least once a game. His only viable option to stay relevant now is to really work on his jump shooting. He's clearly not as efficient attacking the basket and he hasn't been getting them foul calls like he used to :p

Really depressing to see one of my all time fav slashers decline like this
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 02 2013 21:28 GMT
#4407
I'm afraid Rose is going to quickly go the path of Wade. He is basically the same player just 1-2 inches shorter.
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BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
June 02 2013 21:47 GMT
#4408
On June 03 2013 06:24 BlueRoyaL wrote:
man i hate to say this because wade's been one of my favorite players for a long time but he's clearly in what seems to be an insurmountable decline.

Always missing those shots he could make with his eyes closed years ago, and I swear he travels at least once a game. His only viable option to stay relevant now is to really work on his jump shooting. He's clearly not as efficient attacking the basket and he hasn't been getting them foul calls like he used to :p

Really depressing to see one of my all time fav slashers decline like this


He is so careless with the ball sometimes. He used to be so reliable and steady but now he'll go full derp-mode for quarters at a time...
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
June 02 2013 21:47 GMT
#4409
On June 03 2013 05:55 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 04:52 slyboogie wrote:
For personal financial reasons, I'd like the pacers to win game 7 but the fact is, the Heat are the best team in the league and going to game 7 doesn't mean you can't win the championship. They went to two game sevens last year.

It's less that they're going to game 7 and more that they looked horrible in game 6.


But they looked so good in game 5. Why is a one game data point on the road more valid than a one game data point at home vis-a-vis game 7?
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13326 Posts
June 02 2013 23:42 GMT
#4410
Damn... I forgot how athletic Grant Hill was until his ankles gave way.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
June 02 2013 23:43 GMT
#4411
On June 03 2013 06:12 SpiritAshura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 03:42 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Btw, I'm expecting a big bounceback game from both Wade and Bosh in Game 7. Even if they don't end up scoring 20 pts each, I think we'll be seeing a re-energized Wade and Bosh to try to quiet the recent criticism. Wade, especially, has too much pride for anything else. I'd be very surprised to see Wade held to pedestrian numbers again.

Where do you expect bosh to score though? The pacers are HUGE defensively...the only way I can see this happening is if Bosh can get his jumper going EARLY in the game (1st/maybe 2nd quarter) to open up driving lanes. They haven't been able to penetrate the paint beyond lebron and occasional cuts from cole/chalmers from what I've seen.

Birdman being back won't hurt, I'm sure he'll be going full force for a game 7.


Bosh has been an elite mid-range shooter all season long, so it'd be no surprise to me to see him do it in Game 7. His 3pt shooting has been good enough to be a legitimately threat as well. If he can draw more attention and apply more pressure on the Pacers' bigs, it'll also open things up for his teammates.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 03 2013 00:34 GMT
#4412
On June 03 2013 06:47 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 05:55 DystopiaX wrote:
On June 03 2013 04:52 slyboogie wrote:
For personal financial reasons, I'd like the pacers to win game 7 but the fact is, the Heat are the best team in the league and going to game 7 doesn't mean you can't win the championship. They went to two game sevens last year.

It's less that they're going to game 7 and more that they looked horrible in game 6.


But they looked so good in game 5. Why is a one game data point on the road more valid than a one game data point at home vis-a-vis game 7?

Because looking good in game 5 involved not only Lebron but Haslem putting up big stats as well. I'm not saying that it's just because they looked like shit game 6, but also because Wade has looked terrible offensively all series, as has Bosh. I'm not sure Battier has made a 3 all series (or all postseason for that matter) and Ray Allen isn't doing much better.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 00:44:56
June 03 2013 00:44 GMT
#4413
I'm not sure how true it is but just a thought: Would the game in the early 2000's have been a lot better without the injuries to Hill, Penny and McGrady? Granted, it's only 3 players but 3 top players can change the way the game is played.

Late 20's is usually considered a player's prime, and all 3 had devastating injuries at 28 or before. I think it's fair to say we lost 2 of the top 5 players in the league and potentially 3 of the top 10.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 03 2013 01:14 GMT
#4414
Wade's season was really good though. So far the Heat have had to play 2 of the best defenses in the league and probably the 2 teams that'll give Wade the most matchup problems. Could be totally different against the Spurs where I don't really see an excuse to underperform.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
June 03 2013 01:15 GMT
#4415
Wade has always been a very streaky player. He doesn't have good games and bad games. He has good MONTHS and bad MONTHS. So he has had a bad month and suddenly he has declined to obscurity? His numbers this season are 21/5/5 on 52% shooting. 52% shooting is AMAZINGLY good for a shooting guard. There's only 3 people in the league that average >20 points on >50% shooting and the other 2 are LeBron and Durant.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 03 2013 01:25 GMT
#4416
On June 03 2013 10:14 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Wade's season was really good though. So far the Heat have had to play 2 of the best defenses in the league and probably the 2 teams that'll give Wade the most matchup problems. Could be totally different against the Spurs where I don't really see an excuse to underperform.

well the worrying thing for heat fans is that his performance in the bucks series was quite streaky...
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Card5harko6
Profile Joined December 2008
United States90 Posts
June 03 2013 01:42 GMT
#4417
So how come everyone gets up in arms when Hibbert says "no homo" but no one even cared when Lebron James said it in an interview?
Rekrul: It's an ancient strategy that many nowadays say is outdated ... It's like the broadsword to today's guns. But if you're not expecting it: You can get your head cut off.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13326 Posts
June 03 2013 02:08 GMT
#4418
On June 03 2013 10:15 BlackJack wrote:
Wade has always been a very streaky player. He doesn't have good games and bad games. He has good MONTHS and bad MONTHS. So he has had a bad month and suddenly he has declined to obscurity? His numbers this season are 21/5/5 on 52% shooting. 52% shooting is AMAZINGLY good for a shooting guard. There's only 3 people in the league that average >20 points on >50% shooting and the other 2 are LeBron and Durant.


He's 13/5/5 on 44% in the Playoffs though. What's your point?

Wade has been ineffective these Playoffs relative to the standard of a guy who is an all time great SG. He's certainly no liability out there for the Heat but they're not getting "Dwayne Wade" levels of production from him, which is clearly hurting the team.

I'd agree that it has been overblown a bit as the media loves to hyperbole-up a good drama/storyline but there is some substance to it. If Wade played like he did even last year I doubt the Heat would be having as much trouble as they are now.

In saying that, I expect they'll win relatively comfortably in game 7. Wade will prob go off and Danny Granger will try start a fight from the bench to remain relevant on the Pacers' roster.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 03 2013 02:12 GMT
#4419
On June 03 2013 11:08 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 10:15 BlackJack wrote:
Wade has always been a very streaky player. He doesn't have good games and bad games. He has good MONTHS and bad MONTHS. So he has had a bad month and suddenly he has declined to obscurity? His numbers this season are 21/5/5 on 52% shooting. 52% shooting is AMAZINGLY good for a shooting guard. There's only 3 people in the league that average >20 points on >50% shooting and the other 2 are LeBron and Durant.


He's 13/5/5 on 44% in the Playoffs though. What's your point?

Wade has been ineffective these Playoffs relative to the standard of a guy who is an all time great SG. He's certainly no liability out there for the Heat but they're not getting "Dwayne Wade" levels of production from him, which is clearly hurting the team.

I'd agree that it has been overblown a bit as the media loves to hyperbole-up a good drama/storyline but there is some substance to it. If Wade played like he did even last year I doubt the Heat would be having as much trouble as they are now.

In saying that, I expect they'll win relatively comfortably in game 7. Wade will prob go off and Danny Granger will try start a fight from the bench to remain relevant on the Pacers' roster.

LOL if Granger was available for this series, the Pacers would have already won it.
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mavignon
Profile Joined November 2010
France369 Posts
June 03 2013 02:12 GMT
#4420
On June 03 2013 10:15 BlackJack wrote:
There's only 3 people in the league that average >20 points on >50% shooting and the other 2 are LeBron and Durant.


And Parker.
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