Yea i just read that, we're losing people fast from Luminai. I'm not sure what the word is on transferring, nobody discussed it

edit: There's a forum thread posted this morning. Not many posts, but we're likely to transfer because it's only limited time and one way so we absolutely have to make a choice right now

edit2: There is a poll with four options: Guild transfer? yes/no - and then one vote for that person staying on Luminai regardless of what guild does, and one for that person moving to Jabbit regardless of guild choice

We have 6 votes, 5 of them are for moving guild to Jabbit and the other one is "moving to jabbit whatever happens here" so it's probably going to happen. I'm not really sure how open i should be with posting internal forum stuff though so i'l shut up >.>

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34504 Posts

October 17 2014 10:17 GMT

#1944

Not like the stuff is private so they shouldn't care

Cyro

United Kingdom20341 Posts

October 17 2014 10:24 GMT

#1945

I think it's private as in inaccessible to non guild members, but private privacy i really have no idea

killerdog

Denmark6522 Posts

October 17 2014 11:01 GMT

#1946

What's the furthest a pvp guild has gotten in DS?

A secondary point of view is it gives a lot of motivation to all the guilds just finishing GA if all the DS guilds on the server have hopped. Suddenly everyone's in the running again ^^

(ofc this is assuming that they don't take every single decent player with them.)

We've merged with a 5/6 guild, who started running two raid groups when we joined. But it feels kind of like their entry standards slipped a bit to make room for 2 raids, last two nights there's been a dps in my group doing less dps then one of the tanks :S

Cyro

United Kingdom20341 Posts

October 17 2014 11:11 GMT

#1947

Our standards are definitely lower running two groups than with one. It'll take a while. Mainly i think it's dilution of skill (there is a gap between the top 10 and the worst 10, with there being 50-odd active raiders) and lack of backup - for example on some convergence setups you need 1 or 2 extra offtanks on top of the 2 tanks, and we can only do stuff like that if people are not missing. We have a massive lack of esper DPS and engineers, so if only 1-2 people don't raid we have to sub in a healer of a class that's maybe not wanted as much as other classes, in order for one of our esper healers to run a bad DPS offspec otherwise raid damage suffers a LOT. I think a lot of stuff just adds up to make it a "good" raid instead of an "excellent" raid, and the less overkill your raid is, the more likely you are to be halted by whatever issues you run into

Drop 3 will make things much easier in general - as everyones DPS, healing, tanking effectiveness is increasing as far as i know (it would be annoying to spend a ton of money, time and effort to get everything runed, some stuff rerolled etc JUST to maintain same DPS as before..), and some DS minibosses will be accessible without having to kill system daemons (which seems to be a very hard fight or at least one that takes a long time to learn as a first 40 man boss) which opens the gate for mass gearing which just makes everything a whole lot easier

I'm not really sure on pvp guild DS progress. I only have a vague idea of the furthest progressed people

20 people done poll now, 80% for switch to jabbit. 5% for moving to jabbit regardless of guild decision, and 15% for "stay on luminai" which i think means they want to stay but will follow guild if they move. No votes for other option, so this is more 1 sided than i thought

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34504 Posts

October 17 2014 12:52 GMT

#1948

This is pretty stupid. I've unsubbed now, but if I ever decide to resub post deadline with my guild having moved, I'd have no way to rejoin them outside leveling a brand new character.

How the fuck have they not thought this shit through.

Laurens

Belgium4557 Posts

October 17 2014 13:12 GMT

#1949

Blame Codex

After Eugenic left the population on the servers was probably somewhat even. With Codex leaving and the deadline extension, a snowball effect has started and people are freaking out and jumping ship. I wonder how Carbine is gonna tackle this issue.

Cyro

United Kingdom20341 Posts

October 17 2014 13:22 GMT

#1950

yea Eugenic and Codex left, lots of people following them. With those leaving as well as the ones following them, there's little choice to stay.

PVP to PVE avalanche of players

I think the whole situation is silly and there should have been a £5 transfer either way. Maybe £10 for single characters, but a highly discounted price for those who have to move 20 or 60 people at once. Eugenic left BECAUSE the transfer was one way - same for Codex, probably.

Out of 32 votes, looks like we'd only lose one person so far from transferring. There's still probably over 20 people that have not voted/commented though. Waiting for carbine announcements today, if there isn't one it's probably gonna happen

this is becoming a little bit of a trainwreck :0

B-Roll

United States403 Posts

October 17 2014 16:55 GMT

#1951

On October 17 2014 06:39 Elurie wrote:

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I don't know how it's like in EU, but in NA, the PvE population is easily 3x the size of PvP's. The one-way transfer rule doesn't help either. Free transfers are open until next Monday too, so I'm sure the population imbalance will be even worse.

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Dota2 Rage and Report, right?

I do Rage a lot..... and report a lot.....

Cyro

United Kingdom20341 Posts

October 17 2014 20:17 GMT

#1952

guild meeting to discuss transfer

*popcorn*

Cyro

United Kingdom20341 Posts

October 17 2014 22:57 GMT

#1953

It's much more split now, they talked for ages. I jumped on TS for an hour and only caught a fraction of the meeting. The poll is about 20 to 14 in favor of going ATM.

Development
We are now in talks with Perfect Dark X to have some kind of merger or alliance for Datascape if we stay on Luminai.

This seems interesting (:

editedit: Looks like PDX is leaving and there's a shortage of choices for future merging/alliances

Cyro

United Kingdom20341 Posts

October 18 2014 12:56 GMT

#1954

After 48 votes (and freedom to change vote whenever) we have 28 people for moving, 13 against right now. I think it's gonna happen

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Cyro

United Kingdom20341 Posts

October 19 2014 03:55 GMT

#1955

it is done

Eugenic, Codex, PDX, OSS+Lokes List, IN and i wonder how many others but it looks like the population is pretty lopp-sided (lol)

Actually that's every guild without a french/german/russian website that has an ohmna kill on Dominion side. I'm not sure which exile guilds transfered. Someone should go make a list on reddit for EU and US

Looks like we might have a massive roster here, going from 8 warrior dps to maybe ~11 with some guys from another guild joining and a recent applicant

B-Roll

United States403 Posts

October 20 2014 20:29 GMT

#1956

It Comes from the 1 direction server transfer. Why limit recruitment to just 1 realm when you can have both? its a good call.

Cyro

United Kingdom20341 Posts

October 20 2014 23:31 GMT

#1957

Greetings,

First of all apologies for the late reply.

I wanted to say that the Live Team has been actively monitoring Megaservers population on both datacenters and as it currently stands they determined that the population is currently healthy on NA and EU PvP Megaservers. No stance change regarding PvE > PvP transfers.

This is the first carbine comment i saw

Elurie

4716 Posts

October 22 2014 18:56 GMT

#1958

On October 21 2014 05:29 B-Roll wrote:
It Comes from the 1 direction server transfer. Why limit recruitment to just 1 realm when you can have both? its a good call.

It made sense when Eugenic did it, as the free transfer month was still in full swing then.

Codex transferred literally right before Megaserver happened, so much so that they were crying that half their guild did not make the (original) free transfer deadline. If their purpose was to recruit from both PvP and PvE, they only had 5 days before the transfers are permanently closed. Or at least for an undetermined amount of time. Right now, no one can transfer even if they pony up a suitcase full of cash.

No idea why Codex waited till the last minute, but they had a bigger hand in the Luminai panic train than Eugenic did. Timing is everything!

Btw, good to see you guys finally beating back the roster boss. (and say hi to Perky for me, if he hasn't gotten the boot yet lmao)

Cyro

United Kingdom20341 Posts

October 22 2014 21:18 GMT

#1959

Codex transferred literally right before Megaserver happened, so much so that they were crying that half their guild did not make the (original) free transfer deadline.

The deadline got moved and cut a third of their guild off, that wasn't really their fault. They held the decision to the last 2 days, and hey - so did PDX and IN and the people who followed them when it came to Jabbit vs Luminai