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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
February 09 2013 10:47 GMT
#41
I feel Dishonored got closest to capturing Deus Ex's approach to missions, not unsurprising given that one of the lead designers actually worked on Deus Ex as well. Still wish there was less of that streamline which many designers feel necessary nowadays, it's like everyone has gone full retard. :/
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 13:55:58
February 09 2013 13:37 GMT
#42
On February 09 2013 17:45 On_Slaught wrote:
Still like BG2 more And anybody who says this blows games like HL or Fallout1/2 out of the water is being bias. There is plenty of room at the top.


I still have yet to understand why HL is put on the same level (or higher) as Deus Ex. It came first and it was a more significant stepping stone in the history of FPS and it has a great atmosphere but there is no RPG element...there aren't multiple character styles you can play through to give you different experiences of the game (ie stealth, sniper, close combat, shotguns/machineguns, heavy weapons)...and the game is generally just simpler (the combat is far simpler). I mean without the extra elements that Deus Ex offers, HL is basically just the logical evolution of the FPS genre which was started by Doom and Wolfenstein...not a bad game by any means but it doesn't still have things that the FPS genre lacks in general, unlike DE. I don't see why it should be rated higher than Doom or Halo or CoD 2 or other famous games in the FPS genre. (Being hit in different parts of your body = different penalties...almost all games still ignore that- I have no fucking idea why).

On February 09 2013 18:00 RelZo wrote:
It was still lightyears better than Invisible War, and the closest any game could ever get to the orginal Deus Ex feeling.


Yuck. Well it may be the closest but I rate IW 5/10, HR 7/10 and DE 10/10.

I swear I could design a fucking Deus Ex game as good as the original...it's really simple...AVOID STREAMLINING...they shouldn't have tried to cash in on the name of Deus Ex to make a quick buck off casuals by streamlining and simplifying. They should have gone all-out to make it the most satisfying and gripping nerd experience available. Instead they made a lukewarm, medium-strength offering and greatly tarnished the already-tarnished-by-IW rep that DE has.

ALSO they could have had a go at actually making a game where decisions matter?! If I were designing DE I would have two clear sides that you get to choose to be with, they have similar missions but often are done from different ends of the maps with different objectives, and also there are missions which are unique to each side. And let the player CHOOSE what they want. And don't worry about graphics, the story, gameplay and game length are what should come first.
Beamer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States242 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 05:35:10
February 14 2013 05:34 GMT
#43
I've never played any Deus Ex game before, but I bought Human Revolution during a Steam sale and just recently purchased the original from GOG. I'm starting Deus Ex tonight, and will play through Human Revolution next. It will be interesting to compare the two side-by-side as someone completely new to the series.
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
February 14 2013 05:38 GMT
#44
^^ Get the HD Textures and the launcher mod
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
February 14 2013 06:55 GMT
#45
Just finished the game today. Amazing game. Great all the way through. Though + Show Spoiler +
Jocks death was dumb. Could see it a mile away and didn't make sense that they wouldn't blow the copter while JC was on it.


I picked the + Show Spoiler +
merger
ending. Others were just meh.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
February 14 2013 07:01 GMT
#46
On February 14 2013 15:55 On_Slaught wrote:
Just finished the game today. Amazing game. Great all the way through. Though + Show Spoiler +
Jocks death was dumb. Could see it a mile away and didn't make sense that they wouldn't blow the copter while JC was on it.


I picked the + Show Spoiler +
merger
ending. Others were just meh.

+ Show Spoiler +



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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 07:05:56
February 14 2013 07:05 GMT
#47
I fail. I suppose Deus Ex is exactly the type of game that would let me do that. Modern games have made me weak.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
February 14 2013 07:47 GMT
#48
To this day the most immersive game I've ever played. Absolute gem that no-one has come close to emulating since, which is remarkable given the promise shown here in regards to things like emergent gameplay and how to structure a (good) story for games.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 14 2013 08:13 GMT
#49
The best game ever made. Have to replay it again some time soon. <3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
February 14 2013 08:38 GMT
#50
I've tried to get far in it several times, but I just stop a while in... don't really know why. Because of this I've beaten liberty island many many times, and IMO it's the best part of the game, obviously since I haven't seen much else...

I should give this game another chance, again.
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 08:54:52
February 14 2013 08:53 GMT
#51
Greatest PC game ever and up there with Metal Gear Solid and the best console RPG games imo

What the world needs however would be a epic Deus Ex movie based on exactly this first installment <3
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
HeartOfTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Niue585 Posts
February 14 2013 09:26 GMT
#52
On February 14 2013 17:53 Inzan1ty wrote:
Greatest PC game ever and up there with Metal Gear Solid and the best console RPG games imo

What the world needs however would be a epic Deus Ex movie based on exactly this first installment <3


Too bad that MGS is no more for PC. I played Human Revolution twice and seeing as I got lazy with these new games I never bothered playing the first one mainly because of its graphics. But I have some spare time these days so I might do it with all these enhancement softwares. Does anyone know long is DeusEx 1? ( approximately, in time spent playing doing main missions only)
"I do not join. I lead." - Queen of Blades
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 09:39:49
February 14 2013 09:37 GMT
#53
If you go straight through missions you would probably beat it in about 25 hours, but I`d recommend to just get lost in the world and stroll around and check out all the places and people (especially in Asia, the atmosphere is just addictive)

You can easily spent 40 hours and more for a more enjoyable intense experience of this extraordinary game
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
February 14 2013 09:59 GMT
#54
Great timing of this thread as I am currently playing it for the first time.
Looking to get immersed!
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
February 14 2013 11:14 GMT
#55
GoG now has System Shock 2 as well. This should mean you can get a version that runs on your machine.
I think I have my Deus Ex disc around somewhere. I should really get back in that. I never completed it.
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
murphs
Profile Joined April 2011
Ireland418 Posts
February 14 2013 15:10 GMT
#56
The best game ever made. Not a doubt about it.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
February 14 2013 15:29 GMT
#57
On February 09 2013 19:47 Ysellian wrote:
I feel Dishonored got closest to capturing Deus Ex's approach to missions, not unsurprising given that one of the lead designers actually worked on Deus Ex as well. Still wish there was less of that streamline which many designers feel necessary nowadays, it's like everyone has gone full retard. :/


Dishonored was completely badass though. One of the best and most refreshing single player games I've played in a long time. Looking forward to Bioshock Infinite as well.
Kahzaar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden897 Posts
February 14 2013 15:32 GMT
#58
On February 02 2013 05:47 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 05:37 Kahzaar wrote:
On February 02 2013 05:01 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On February 02 2013 04:46 Kahzaar wrote:
One of my favourite games along with Bioshock and I recommend anyone who haven't played it to get it. Recently bought Anachronox on GOG, another cyberpunk rpg by Ion Storm. I haven't tried it yet but it seems deus ex-esque.

On February 02 2013 03:57 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Brilliant game. I'd also highly recommend everyone try out System Shock 2 (with graphics mods).

I bought System Shock on ebay but could never get it to work properly on windows 7 even with lots of patches and various fixes. Although it's unlikely, I hope that GOG can some day get their hands on the rights and release a working version of it.


It's possible to get SS2 working on Win 7, I've done it, but it was a huge pain in the ass. Totally worth it though.

Try this

http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128197

I did use those and I could technically play it; but my problem was that if I saved my game in certain rooms, the file became corrupted and I had to start over from an older save. So I had to write down every room that it was possible to save in and had to trial and error every new room I came to which ruined a lot of the immersion. Really awesome game though when it worked


Man that sucks. Yeah it's definitely one of the best games I've ever played, I wish someone would remake it so bad. It's definitely up there with Deus Ex.

Sorry to derail this thread from Deus Ex but something awesome just happened. System Shock 2 is now available on GOG! :D http://www.gog.com/gamecard/system_shock_2
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
February 14 2013 15:47 GMT
#59
On February 15 2013 00:32 Kahzaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 05:47 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On February 02 2013 05:37 Kahzaar wrote:
On February 02 2013 05:01 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On February 02 2013 04:46 Kahzaar wrote:
One of my favourite games along with Bioshock and I recommend anyone who haven't played it to get it. Recently bought Anachronox on GOG, another cyberpunk rpg by Ion Storm. I haven't tried it yet but it seems deus ex-esque.

On February 02 2013 03:57 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Brilliant game. I'd also highly recommend everyone try out System Shock 2 (with graphics mods).

I bought System Shock on ebay but could never get it to work properly on windows 7 even with lots of patches and various fixes. Although it's unlikely, I hope that GOG can some day get their hands on the rights and release a working version of it.


It's possible to get SS2 working on Win 7, I've done it, but it was a huge pain in the ass. Totally worth it though.

Try this

http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128197

I did use those and I could technically play it; but my problem was that if I saved my game in certain rooms, the file became corrupted and I had to start over from an older save. So I had to write down every room that it was possible to save in and had to trial and error every new room I came to which ruined a lot of the immersion. Really awesome game though when it worked


Man that sucks. Yeah it's definitely one of the best games I've ever played, I wish someone would remake it so bad. It's definitely up there with Deus Ex.

Sorry to derail this thread from Deus Ex but something awesome just happened. System Shock 2 is now available on GOG! :D http://www.gog.com/gamecard/system_shock_2


Does anyone know if this is based off that unofficial patch that came out recently to make it work on modern systems? I'm going to get the game from somewhere regardless, but I want to know if this gog version will also have the visual improvements like the 1920x1080 res that the patch allows.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Kahzaar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden897 Posts
February 14 2013 15:58 GMT
#60
On February 15 2013 00:47 Fyrewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 00:32 Kahzaar wrote:
On February 02 2013 05:47 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On February 02 2013 05:37 Kahzaar wrote:
On February 02 2013 05:01 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On February 02 2013 04:46 Kahzaar wrote:
One of my favourite games along with Bioshock and I recommend anyone who haven't played it to get it. Recently bought Anachronox on GOG, another cyberpunk rpg by Ion Storm. I haven't tried it yet but it seems deus ex-esque.

On February 02 2013 03:57 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Brilliant game. I'd also highly recommend everyone try out System Shock 2 (with graphics mods).

I bought System Shock on ebay but could never get it to work properly on windows 7 even with lots of patches and various fixes. Although it's unlikely, I hope that GOG can some day get their hands on the rights and release a working version of it.


It's possible to get SS2 working on Win 7, I've done it, but it was a huge pain in the ass. Totally worth it though.

Try this

http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128197

I did use those and I could technically play it; but my problem was that if I saved my game in certain rooms, the file became corrupted and I had to start over from an older save. So I had to write down every room that it was possible to save in and had to trial and error every new room I came to which ruined a lot of the immersion. Really awesome game though when it worked


Man that sucks. Yeah it's definitely one of the best games I've ever played, I wish someone would remake it so bad. It's definitely up there with Deus Ex.

Sorry to derail this thread from Deus Ex but something awesome just happened. System Shock 2 is now available on GOG! :D http://www.gog.com/gamecard/system_shock_2


Does anyone know if this is based off that unofficial patch that came out recently to make it work on modern systems? I'm going to get the game from somewhere regardless, but I want to know if this gog version will also have the visual improvements like the 1920x1080 res that the patch allows.

I can't tell for sure, but it seems like no changes are made from the original and mods are still recommended to install.

Taken form a thread called Any improvements/changes in the GOG version? :
"To answer the original question, I do not believe that the GoG version offers anything over the original retail version at this point. The only thing that's maybe true is that the GoG version might be slightly easier to install, but considering that the original retail version can now be installed via SS2Tool, even that is a minimal benefit.
In other words, if you already own SS2, there's not a whole lot more here for you besides digital availability.
"
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