On December 20 2012 18:07 Kamikiri wrote: Can you guys just stop coming in here spewing bullshit and bashing the game? Most of what you are saying is exaggerated bullshit that isn't true. Just leave unless you know what you are talking about please.
Well, from what I have seen, it seems this game is very quickly hacked together in a way you'd make a game when you want to make something in as little amount of time as possible. Look at the way reflections on water work, that's probably the dirtiest but quickest way you can implement that. They just mirrow what is drawn on the screen above the water onto the water, no matter of it's position in 3d space. They don't even bother to exclude the viewmodel from that.
I mean, I don't have experience making games, but I am a software developer. Their roadmap from this interview looks implausible, mainly because he keeps talking about stronghold maps in plural. Although I'm not sure what exactly he means, a whole new game mode with multiple maps takes time and they also promised a new bigger map and they also haven't implemented a lot of the features they actualyl promise. He doesn't seem to value truth very much anyway, I mean when you write 100 players, who really expect there to actually be 99 other players? So when he talks about stronghold maps, he probably just means one map in a barely working game mode, I can see them getting that done actually.
It must be annoying when everyone bashes a game you actually like for some reason. I'm not interested in the genre (army fpss are too large and slow, putting in zombies doesn't save them) either way, but this game does looks like it deserves a lot of the flak its getting.
Also, for the record @everyone who's calling out TB for being bad at the game: at what point does the game tell you, mechanically or textually, ANYTHING about what you're supposed to be doing, what crap is, etc? For instance: how are you supposed to know that Zombies ONLY die from headshots with actual guns and can 1 shot you? It's impossible to figure out the former without some sort of strategy guide or great luck and the latter until you actually get killed. Not to mention spawning multiple people in a PvP FFA game in the exact same place, the graphics looking like a PS2 game, and the useless microtransaction model and you can't really defend the game on any merit.
I assume that's directed at me, I'm not calling him out on being bad at the game, please reread what I posted. It's just the video felt more like an execution than any attempt at a review. I was actually genuinely interested in seeing how the game played. Like I said, I have no intention of playing this game as it does indeed seem to be completely unfinished. But the pitchforks appear to be out, even amongst hordes of cretins that haven't even played the damn game. Have you played it?
On December 20 2012 18:07 Kamikiri wrote: Can you guys just stop coming in here spewing bullshit and bashing the game? Most of what you are saying is exaggerated bullshit that isn't true. Just leave unless you know what you are talking about please.
it's actually not. the talk of him being a scammer is 100% true if you just take the time to do a bit of research on the guy.
research big rig racing. this guy is a con man. and everyone who bought the warz got taken.
I did research big rig racing and it CLEARLY states that sergey was improperly titled Lead programmer for the game when all he did was sell the engine to the company.
On December 20 2012 18:07 Kamikiri wrote: Can you guys just stop coming in here spewing bullshit and bashing the game? Most of what you are saying is exaggerated bullshit that isn't true. Just leave unless you know what you are talking about please.
it's actually not. the talk of him being a scammer is 100% true if you just take the time to do a bit of research on the guy.
research big rig racing. this guy is a con man. and everyone who bought the warz got taken.
I did research big rig racing and it CLEARLY states that sergey was improperly titled Lead programmer for the game when all he did was sell the engine to the company.
I heard that he tried editing the Wikipedia page in order to try and remove that particular credit. What research did you do? Occam seems to imply that he was in charge of Big Rigs
On December 20 2012 23:28 Zorkmid wrote: Did someone hack the subreddit? Big orange screen that suggests donating "refund for this crap to charity".
Not sure, just on an ipad that I've never used, unsure
I just took a quick look, it appears the mod shut it down himself. The orange page links to a thread where it recommends sending your refund money to a charity.
Also, for the record @everyone who's calling out TB for being bad at the game: at what point does the game tell you, mechanically or textually, ANYTHING about what you're supposed to be doing, what crap is, etc? For instance: how are you supposed to know that Zombies ONLY die from headshots with actual guns and can 1 shot you? It's impossible to figure out the former without some sort of strategy guide or great luck and the latter until you actually get killed. Not to mention spawning multiple people in a PvP FFA game in the exact same place, the graphics looking like a PS2 game, and the useless microtransaction model and you can't really defend the game on any merit.
I assume that's directed at me, I'm not calling him out on being bad at the game, please reread what I posted. It's just the video felt more like an execution than any attempt at a review. I was actually genuinely interested in seeing how the game played. Like I said, I have no intention of playing this game as it does indeed seem to be completely unfinished. But the pitchforks appear to be out, even amongst hordes of cretins that haven't even played the damn game. Have you played it?
It's because the video isn't a review at all. his WTF videos are videos where he picks up a game, depending on the genre/type of game he either plays a bit so he's past tutorial stuff and then plays the game and tells what he likes and doesn't like of what he comes across. It's more of a first impressions video then a very throughout review after finishing up a game.
On December 20 2012 02:35 Risen wrote: Meh, I don't care if every dev in the world does shit like this. Game is fun, I enjoy it and have enjoyed it from the time I bought it. Well worth the 30 I spent on it. I think I've played something like 100 hours of warz. Super cheap entertainment at that price.
And as I said earlier, at the price it is on steam it's a steal. Great price to fun ratio.
Edit: I love how entitled everyone is, though. Keep on holding to those principles. You guys make me laugh with all your business ethics noise. Every company will attempt to maximize profit. The end. I have realized this. So I just buy games I think will be fun for me.
This game is fun if you're looking for a less realistic dayz with better graphics and less bugs (in my experience). At $13 on steam you won't find a game that accomplishes this better. Listen to those who have given valid disagreements and determine for yourself if the cons raised matter to you. Go on twitch and watch people play the game. If it looks fun to you, go for it.
I'd like to state this isn't really a direct attack at you, but it's a general statement that you will probably find offensive.
This is the mentality that allows developers to produce poor quality games in this day and age. Imagine if the NES game Action 52 was released today, or E.T on Atari. People would eat that garbage up and the only argument they can bring to the table in favour of the game would be "ITS FUN". When did the standard of games drop so sharply? Being a kid growing up in the full spectrum of the 90's I can personally attest that bad games died out very quickly. Maybe people were more frugal with their money? I don't know the exact cause. But the common (casual) gamer seems to be happy with mediocrity.
Just because something is "fun" to you doesn't mean it applies to everyone. I always hear the same dumb crap being thrown around like "entitlement" and "vocal minority". You can't even deny that the business ethics this company is using is extremely shady.
The bottom line this game is a scam in it's current state. Mainly because of the features that the game promised to have, and to a lesser extent the micro-transactions.
Side note: Companies should not be allowed to release half-assed games. It's like virtually every company out there rushes their games out the door and they get backlash from the community for it. I'm getting tired of it. Like no other company in any other field of production and sales could do this. Imagine if car companies sold you half finished cars and you just had to wait 3 months until they'd send you car seats. Or a fast food place sells you a hamburger but it's only the bun and condiments. You just have to wait a couple weeks for the burger.
On December 21 2012 00:29 Krohm wrote: Side note: Companies should not be allowed to release half-assed games. It's like virtually every company out there rushes their games out the door and they get backlash from the community for it. I'm getting tired of it. Like no other company in any other field of production and sales could do this. Imagine if car companies sold you half finished cars and you just had to wait 3 months until they'd send you car seats. Or a fast food place sells you a hamburger but it's only the bun and condiments. You just have to wait a couple weeks for the burger.
The cause for this is actually really easy to ping down. The internet. Now that everyone has a connection at some point and companies can update there game on the fly there is less of a "need" for them to perform.
Back in the (god that makes me sound old) you went to a store to buy a game and the state you bought it in would be how the game would be for all time so developers made much more effort to make sure there games were finished and bug free because anything that was wrong would be wrong forever.
Yet today it seems like half the games on the market aren't even completed until several months after release and multiple patches later.
Also, for the record @everyone who's calling out TB for being bad at the game: at what point does the game tell you, mechanically or textually, ANYTHING about what you're supposed to be doing, what crap is, etc? For instance: how are you supposed to know that Zombies ONLY die from headshots with actual guns and can 1 shot you? It's impossible to figure out the former without some sort of strategy guide or great luck and the latter until you actually get killed. Not to mention spawning multiple people in a PvP FFA game in the exact same place, the graphics looking like a PS2 game, and the useless microtransaction model and you can't really defend the game on any merit.
I assume that's directed at me, I'm not calling him out on being bad at the game, please reread what I posted. It's just the video felt more like an execution than any attempt at a review. I was actually genuinely interested in seeing how the game played. Like I said, I have no intention of playing this game as it does indeed seem to be completely unfinished. But the pitchforks appear to be out, even amongst hordes of cretins that haven't even played the damn game. Have you played it?
It's because the video isn't a review at all. his WTF videos are videos where he picks up a game, depending on the genre/type of game he either plays a bit so he's past tutorial stuff and then plays the game and tells what he likes and doesn't like of what he comes across. It's more of a first impressions video then a very throughout review after finishing up a game.
Fair enough, replace "review" in my post with "first look" and it still illustrates my thought. Like I said, I was actually genuinely interested in seeing how the game played. Instead the video was just moan moan moan right from the get go. Putting a game down on it's graphics is really cheap. I mean, fair enough if he'd reached these conclusions after ten minutes of playing, but when it starts with such a negative attitude one probably isn't going to get much out of it.
This is probably why I don't watch his videos much and probably why I should just avoid them in future. It was a mistake, youtubing "WarZ Gameplay" would probably have yielded something more suitable.
Also, for the record @everyone who's calling out TB for being bad at the game: at what point does the game tell you, mechanically or textually, ANYTHING about what you're supposed to be doing, what crap is, etc? For instance: how are you supposed to know that Zombies ONLY die from headshots with actual guns and can 1 shot you? It's impossible to figure out the former without some sort of strategy guide or great luck and the latter until you actually get killed. Not to mention spawning multiple people in a PvP FFA game in the exact same place, the graphics looking like a PS2 game, and the useless microtransaction model and you can't really defend the game on any merit.
I assume that's directed at me, I'm not calling him out on being bad at the game, please reread what I posted. It's just the video felt more like an execution than any attempt at a review. I was actually genuinely interested in seeing how the game played. Like I said, I have no intention of playing this game as it does indeed seem to be completely unfinished. But the pitchforks appear to be out, even amongst hordes of cretins that haven't even played the damn game. Have you played it?
It's because the video isn't a review at all. his WTF videos are videos where he picks up a game, depending on the genre/type of game he either plays a bit so he's past tutorial stuff and then plays the game and tells what he likes and doesn't like of what he comes across. It's more of a first impressions video then a very throughout review after finishing up a game.
Fair enough, replace "review" in my post with "first look" and it still illustrates my thought. Like I said, I was actually genuinely interested in seeing how the game played. Instead the video was just moan moan moan right from the get go. Putting a game down on it's graphics is really cheap. I mean, fair enough if he'd reached these conclusions after ten minutes of playing, but when it starts with such a negative attitude one probably isn't going to get much out of it.
This is probably why I don't watch his videos much and probably why I should just avoid them in future. It was a mistake, youtubing "WarZ Gameplay" would probably have yielded something more suitable.
That video wasn't really part of his "Wtf is..." series so it was neither a first look or a review. He obviously just wanted to make a video to point out everything he saw wrong with the game, not present a objective look about at the gameplay, like it or not.
Also, for the record @everyone who's calling out TB for being bad at the game: at what point does the game tell you, mechanically or textually, ANYTHING about what you're supposed to be doing, what crap is, etc? For instance: how are you supposed to know that Zombies ONLY die from headshots with actual guns and can 1 shot you? It's impossible to figure out the former without some sort of strategy guide or great luck and the latter until you actually get killed. Not to mention spawning multiple people in a PvP FFA game in the exact same place, the graphics looking like a PS2 game, and the useless microtransaction model and you can't really defend the game on any merit.
I assume that's directed at me, I'm not calling him out on being bad at the game, please reread what I posted. It's just the video felt more like an execution than any attempt at a review. I was actually genuinely interested in seeing how the game played. Like I said, I have no intention of playing this game as it does indeed seem to be completely unfinished. But the pitchforks appear to be out, even amongst hordes of cretins that haven't even played the damn game. Have you played it?
It's because the video isn't a review at all. his WTF videos are videos where he picks up a game, depending on the genre/type of game he either plays a bit so he's past tutorial stuff and then plays the game and tells what he likes and doesn't like of what he comes across. It's more of a first impressions video then a very throughout review after finishing up a game.
Fair enough, replace "review" in my post with "first look" and it still illustrates my thought. Like I said, I was actually genuinely interested in seeing how the game played. Instead the video was just moan moan moan right from the get go. Putting a game down on it's graphics is really cheap. I mean, fair enough if he'd reached these conclusions after ten minutes of playing, but when it starts with such a negative attitude one probably isn't going to get much out of it.
This is probably why I don't watch his videos much and probably why I should just avoid them in future. It was a mistake, youtubing "WarZ Gameplay" would probably have yielded something more suitable.
That video wasn't really part of his "Wtf is..." series so it was neither a first look or a review. He obviously just wanted to make a video to point out everything he saw wrong with the game, not present a objective look about at the gameplay, like it or not.
TB had some valid points. He spawned and was killed by a flying backpack. Then he walked around like 20-30minutes and all he could do was move around the map without any interaction at all despite checking the map for a good direction to head to.
But the way he presented it seemed a bit too biased against the game. It looked liked someone playing a tvz and running with mass marines into speedlings and banelings on creep. After watching his video I can agree that the game is lacking in too many areas to be worth even 15euro.
On December 21 2012 08:17 Dirkinity wrote: Looks like this is one of the worst games ever made. What a joke! I hope they get kicked out of business soon.
Worst game ever made, 180k people play daily saying they love the game with 700k people currently owning the game.
Edit: To Gawk, WarZ has less walking around than DayZ does and DayZ is considered a great game by most people including me.
I don't think so. I played DayZ and it was really rare that I walked around for more than 10minutes without finding anything. In Dayz there are many small item spawns that draw my attention because there might be good stuff.
In warz TB walked around about 30minutes and didn't find anything (despite having a map and using it). Of course that can happen in DayZ aswell, but he was literally walking around for 30minutes without any interaction at all. No 0.05% drop locations and the terrain is boring aswell.
In DayZ I can see that the world I am spawned in is huge, but in WarZ the terrain is much smaller. So walking around in DayZ is more exciting because the map is much bigger and has more interesting desing than the map in WarZ.
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