EPTNBA Regular Season 2011-2012 - Page 256
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On March 18 2012 11:44 RowdierBob wrote: Indy and Philly have benefited from a soft opening schedule. It's now starting to catch up with them. Anywhere from 4-9th seed in the East is pretty open IMO. Now that Dwight is staying, the 4 seed is the Magic. They can't catch the Heat so they can't be a top 3 seed, but they are the 3rd best team in the conference. | ||
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Zona
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On March 18 2012 11:44 RowdierBob wrote: Indy and Philly have benefited from a soft opening schedule. It's now starting to catch up with them. Anywhere from 4-9th seed in the East is pretty open IMO. Yeah if the knicks and bucks make decent runs I'd like to see how teams like Philly and indiana handle it. Atlanta is ok imo | ||
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holy_war
United States3590 Posts
On March 18 2012 13:20 cLutZ wrote: Now that Dwight is staying, the 4 seed is the Magic. They can't catch the Heat so they can't be a top 3 seed, but they are the 3rd best team in the conference. The Magic is clear and away the 3rd seed in the East right now. They have a 4 game lead over the 4th place 76ers, but they are 4 game behind the Heat and doubt would catch them. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13414 Posts
On March 18 2012 12:43 Ace wrote: o.0 Spencer Hawes has missed over 20 games. That's the #1 reason Philly is a very weird team ( they were still winning without him but he was their best big man and playing like a stud). Guy was riding a massive hot-streak. His play was a fluke IMO. While they're a better team with him, I think his overall impact is fairly negligible. | ||
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holy_war
United States3590 Posts
On March 18 2012 14:04 Ace wrote: He means that Orlando can't get a #3 seed because the winners of each Division are all auto seeded from 1-3. With Orlando being in the South East with Miami they can't get a top 3 seed unless they get a better record. Oh yeah you're right, forgot about the division winners getting the higher seeds. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
On March 17 2012 13:04 Doraemon wrote: celts going to lose to the kings. westbrook...needs some bball IQ. i really really dislike his game. seriously. its like us two are the only ones who dislike him. everyone else thinks hes on par with the all stars in the league i dont think he's even a top 5 point guard. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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thuracine
United States582 Posts
On March 18 2012 14:45 krndandaman wrote: derrick rose, chris paul, deron williams, rajon rondo, tony parker as top 5 point guards this season for me. Westbrook is top 3 pg in the league and very young, thunder are going to be contender for a while. Rondo in your top 5 is a bit weird, he prolly not even top 10 right now with all new young guys in the game. He doesnt have a jumper can't shoot free throws, only good part of his game is passing. If he wasn't part of the celtics you probably wouldn't even know his name. Ricky Rubio on his way to being top 5 pg to bad he out for the season. Hope he does'nt have knee issues when he comes back, to much talent to go to waist. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On March 18 2012 15:14 thuracine wrote: Westbrook is top 3 pg in the league and very young, thunder are going to be contender for a while. Rondo in your top 5 is a bit weird, he prolly not even top 10 right now with all new young guys in the game. He doesnt have a jumper can't shoot free throws, only good part of his game is passing. If he wasn't part of the celtics you probably wouldn't even know his name. Ricky Rubio on his way to being top 5 pg to bad he out for the season. Hope he does'nt have knee issues when he comes back, to much talent to go to waist. noooo westbrook isn't a top 3 pg. deron williams chris paul derrick rose boom (maybe steve nash... his numbers are ridiculous no defence tho lol). no doubt he's talenting and young but he's a scorer and not a passer. rondo's a true pg and is more valuable to his team then westbrook to the thunder. if you're talking about up and coming talent then talk about kyrie irving and john wall as well. rubio makes great plays for sure, but john wall and kyrie irving are much better. what pisses me off the most is that westbrook averages the same amount of shots a game as kevin durant. oh yes and steve nash 17 ap40m that shits crazy. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
If a point guard who's "all about his passing" on a team that would never get a playoff seed without him in the lineup, what the hell would you need to be a top 10 pg? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
If there is something about Westbrook that is a legit complaint it's that his assist numbers are way down, but that could be because Durant and Harden are doing more playmaking this year. Either way Westbrook is easily a top 5 PG and has a very, very good case for being #2. This year he's better than Rose due to Rose being injured and not having as many big games or better production. Right now Chris Paul is still #1, and then Westbrook, Rose, Rondo, Deron Williams and Nash are in the conversation with John Wall looking like the next big deal to come a long. | ||
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chennis
Taiwan227 Posts
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thuracine
United States582 Posts
On March 18 2012 15:46 Ace wrote: How can you claim Rondo isn't a top 5 PG then claim Rubio is on his way? Have you seen Rubio's FG%? Rubio is a rookie with the same numbers as Rondo, Rondo's assist would be down if he wasn't passing to Pierce, Allen, K.G. Don't get me wrong Rondo is my favorite celtic, last year when he dislocated his elbow in the playoffs and finished the game was one of my favorites from last year. He is still not top 5 though. Tony Parker, Derrick Rose, and Russel Westbrook are easily the top PG in the nba with D.William very close behind. If Westbrook wasn't valuable thunder wouldn't have given him a 80$ million this year. Durant/Westbrook best duo in the league next to Lebron/Wade, maybe even better because there so young and are still getting better. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 18 2012 17:31 thuracine wrote: Rubio is a rookie with the same numbers as Rondo, Rondo's assist would be down if he wasn't passing to Pierce, Allen, K.G. Don't get me wrong Rondo is my favorite celtic, last year when he dislocated his elbow in the playoffs and finished the game was one of my favorites from last year. He is still not top 5 though. Tony Parker, Derrick Rose, and Russel Westbrook are easily the top PG in the nba with D.William very close behind. If Westbrook wasn't valuable thunder wouldn't have given him a 80$ million this year. Durant/Westbrook best duo in the league next to Lebron/Wade, maybe even better because there so young and are still getting better. You're just making things up with no basis in reality. If Rondo's assists were weighted so heavily because he plays with good players then why don't other point guards on great teams put up high assist numbers, and why does Rondo still make plays no matter who is on the court with him? Point Guards that tend to put up high assist numbers for years can actually pass the ball. Tony Parker is definitely not better than Rondo. I can't even take any list where he's in the top and Chris Paul isn't for real. As for Durant/Westbrook - yes, they're very good. But they'd have to improve by some major, major leaps to be considered in the Lebron/Wade tier. Durant himself isn't close enough to either one yet for that to hold true. It might take some years or a radical approach by his Coach for us to see that happen. ETA: I actually just did a quick check of their numbers and Rubio wasn't even close to having the same numbers as Rondo. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On March 18 2012 17:31 thuracine wrote: Rubio is a rookie with the same numbers as Rondo, Rondo's assist would be down if he wasn't passing to Pierce, Allen, K.G. Don't get me wrong Rondo is my favorite celtic, last year when he dislocated his elbow in the playoffs and finished the game was one of my favorites from last year. He is still not top 5 though. Tony Parker, Derrick Rose, and Russel Westbrook are easily the top PG in the nba with D.William very close behind. If Westbrook wasn't valuable thunder wouldn't have given him a 80$ million this year. Durant/Westbrook best duo in the league next to Lebron/Wade, maybe even better because there so young and are still getting better. rondo has a much better shot than rubio -_- | ||
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