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On March 15 2012 11:46 VENDIZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 11:38 buickskylark wrote:On March 15 2012 11:34 VENDIZ wrote:On March 15 2012 11:33 buickskylark wrote:
it must eat rose's ego that bulls are killing the heat without him. I take it you haven't heard anything Rose has ever said.. “I’ve got to be the only superstar in the league that’s going through what I’m going through right now" ..and that's true, he's talking about having to become liquid form to sway through 4 defenders in order to get to the basket. He is hit on pretty much every drive, and he gets fewer calls than both Wade, Durant & James.. that's what he was talking about - not his lack of supporting cast. In ANY interview or snippet where Rose is asked about "needing extra guys to help him" he says he loves the guys on his team and wouldn't trade any of them. Hell, just last night after the NYK game he said "Gibson & Butler won this game for us", and he had 32 points, 6 rebounds and 7 assists..
says who?
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On March 15 2012 10:58 VENDIZ wrote:
Sick move, refs! Give a full Miami lineup more advantages by calling like a blind dog.. how the fuck do you NOT see Haslem inside the restricted area?!
Didn't even see this play but I bet it's legit. Haslem has been fucking BAD.
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Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakers! :D
Back to back overtime wins. I don't care if one of them was against the Hornets it's good to be a Laker fan today.
BTW. The Magic can keep Dwight Howard or trade him to New Jersy idgaf. With the way Bynum is playing right now, Howard would be a downgrade.
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On March 15 2012 11:53 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 11:49 Holcan wrote:
man, world peace is still auch an awesome name.
"Stolen by World Peace!"
"Blocked by World Peace!"
He almost elbowed someone the other night. I was so hoping for a fight started by World Peace.
Already a meme.
Changes name to World Peace
Still starts fights
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On March 15 2012 11:59 buickskylark wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 11:46 VENDIZ wrote:On March 15 2012 11:38 buickskylark wrote:On March 15 2012 11:34 VENDIZ wrote:On March 15 2012 11:33 buickskylark wrote:
it must eat rose's ego that bulls are killing the heat without him. I take it you haven't heard anything Rose has ever said.. “I’ve got to be the only superstar in the league that’s going through what I’m going through right now" ..and that's true, he's talking about having to become liquid form to sway through 4 defenders in order to get to the basket. He is hit on pretty much every drive, and he gets fewer calls than both Wade, Durant & James.. that's what he was talking about - not his lack of supporting cast. In ANY interview or snippet where Rose is asked about "needing extra guys to help him" he says he loves the guys on his team and wouldn't trade any of them. Hell, just last night after the NYK game he said "Gibson & Butler won this game for us", and he had 32 points, 6 rebounds and 7 assists.. says who?
the context of what he was saying http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/7679652/chicago-bulls-derrick-rose-lashes-referees-non-calls
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On March 15 2012 11:59 buickskylark wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 11:46 VENDIZ wrote:On March 15 2012 11:38 buickskylark wrote:On March 15 2012 11:34 VENDIZ wrote:On March 15 2012 11:33 buickskylark wrote:
it must eat rose's ego that bulls are killing the heat without him. I take it you haven't heard anything Rose has ever said.. “I’ve got to be the only superstar in the league that’s going through what I’m going through right now" ..and that's true, he's talking about having to become liquid form to sway through 4 defenders in order to get to the basket. He is hit on pretty much every drive, and he gets fewer calls than both Wade, Durant & James.. that's what he was talking about - not his lack of supporting cast. In ANY interview or snippet where Rose is asked about "needing extra guys to help him" he says he loves the guys on his team and wouldn't trade any of them. Hell, just last night after the NYK game he said "Gibson & Butler won this game for us", and he had 32 points, 6 rebounds and 7 assists.. says who?
Says the FT-A avg. statistics: (GP-PPG-FTM-FTA-
1 Dwight Howard , ORL 43 21.2 5.4 11.0
2 Kevin Love , MIN 39 25.7 7.1 8.6
3 LeBron James , MIA 40 27.5 6.5 8.5
4 Kobe Bryant , LAL 42 28.9 6.7 8.0
5 Kevin Durant , OKC 42 27.9 6.5 7.7
6 Blake Griffin , LAC 40 21.5 4.2 7.5
7 Carmelo Anthony , NYK 32 21.3 5.5 6.8
8 Corey Maggette , CHA 21 15.5 5.6 6.7
9 John Wall , WAS 41 17.3 5.3 6.6
10 Dwyane Wade , MIA 32 22.7 5.2 6.4
11 Rodney Stuckey , DET 37 15.9 5.3 6.4
12 James Harden , OKC 41 17.1 5.4 6.3
13 Derrick Rose , CHI 34 22.8 5.2 6.3
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On March 15 2012 12:08 VENDIZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 11:59 buickskylark wrote:On March 15 2012 11:46 VENDIZ wrote:On March 15 2012 11:38 buickskylark wrote:On March 15 2012 11:34 VENDIZ wrote:On March 15 2012 11:33 buickskylark wrote:
it must eat rose's ego that bulls are killing the heat without him. I take it you haven't heard anything Rose has ever said.. “I’ve got to be the only superstar in the league that’s going through what I’m going through right now" ..and that's true, he's talking about having to become liquid form to sway through 4 defenders in order to get to the basket. He is hit on pretty much every drive, and he gets fewer calls than both Wade, Durant & James.. that's what he was talking about - not his lack of supporting cast. In ANY interview or snippet where Rose is asked about "needing extra guys to help him" he says he loves the guys on his team and wouldn't trade any of them. Hell, just last night after the NYK game he said "Gibson & Butler won this game for us", and he had 32 points, 6 rebounds and 7 assists.. says who? Says the FT-A avg. statistics: (GP-PPG-FTA-FTM- 1 Dwight Howard , ORL 43 21.2 5.4 11.0 2 Kevin Love , MIN 39 25.7 7.1 8.6 277 3 LeBron James , MIA 40 27.5 6.5 8.5 4 Kobe Bryant , LAL 42 28.9 6.7 8.0 5 Kevin Durant , OKC 42 27.9 6.5 7.7 6 Blake Griffin , LAC 40 21.5 4.2 7.5 7 Carmelo Anthony , NYK 32 21.3 5.5 6.8 8 Corey Maggette , CHA 21 15.5 5.6 6.7 9 John Wall , WAS 41 17.3 5.3 6.6 216 10 Dwyane Wade , MIA 32 22.7 5.2 6.4 11 Rodney Stuckey , DET 37 15.9 5.3 6.4 12 James Harden , OKC 41 17.1 5.4 6.3 13 Derrick Rose , CHI 34 22.8 5.2 6.3
That hardly means anything.
Dwight Howard takes more free throws because he gets fouled more. It's obvious how often he gets fouled.
You can't simply say that Derrick Rose gets less respect from the refs because he shoots less free throws. It could simply be that he doesn't get fouled as often as he'd like you to think he does.
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not really a huge discrepancy. He's at the same rate as wade with just 2 more games played. Howard has 9 more games than Rose and is only going to the line .2 times more? What's the problem?
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Do realize that Wade, Durant, Kobe, Lebron and even Kevin Love get fouled a ton because they have so many 1 on 1 offensive moves and are very physical ( cept Durant). Rose doesn't play the same way as those guys but he still gets the benefit of the whistle, although if refs really called it consistently fair all of those guys would be shooting 20 Free Throws a game.
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On March 15 2012 12:13 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 12:08 VENDIZ wrote:On March 15 2012 11:59 buickskylark wrote:On March 15 2012 11:46 VENDIZ wrote:On March 15 2012 11:38 buickskylark wrote:On March 15 2012 11:34 VENDIZ wrote:On March 15 2012 11:33 buickskylark wrote:
it must eat rose's ego that bulls are killing the heat without him. I take it you haven't heard anything Rose has ever said.. “I’ve got to be the only superstar in the league that’s going through what I’m going through right now" ..and that's true, he's talking about having to become liquid form to sway through 4 defenders in order to get to the basket. He is hit on pretty much every drive, and he gets fewer calls than both Wade, Durant & James.. that's what he was talking about - not his lack of supporting cast. In ANY interview or snippet where Rose is asked about "needing extra guys to help him" he says he loves the guys on his team and wouldn't trade any of them. Hell, just last night after the NYK game he said "Gibson & Butler won this game for us", and he had 32 points, 6 rebounds and 7 assists.. says who? Says the FT-A avg. statistics: (GP-PPG-FTA-FTM- 1 Dwight Howard , ORL 43 21.2 5.4 11.0 2 Kevin Love , MIN 39 25.7 7.1 8.6 277 3 LeBron James , MIA 40 27.5 6.5 8.5 4 Kobe Bryant , LAL 42 28.9 6.7 8.0 5 Kevin Durant , OKC 42 27.9 6.5 7.7 6 Blake Griffin , LAC 40 21.5 4.2 7.5 7 Carmelo Anthony , NYK 32 21.3 5.5 6.8 8 Corey Maggette , CHA 21 15.5 5.6 6.7 9 John Wall , WAS 41 17.3 5.3 6.6 216 10 Dwyane Wade , MIA 32 22.7 5.2 6.4 11 Rodney Stuckey , DET 37 15.9 5.3 6.4 12 James Harden , OKC 41 17.1 5.4 6.3 13 Derrick Rose , CHI 34 22.8 5.2 6.3 That hardly means anything. Dwight Howard takes more free throws because he gets fouled more. It's obvious how often he gets fouled. You can't simply say that Derrick Rose gets less respect from the refs because he shoots less free throws. It could simply be that he doesn't get fouled as often as he'd like you to think he does.
I like to think I'm fairly open-minded when it comes to discussions like this, and while I am a Bulls fan I'm the first to admit faults by Bulls players, I'm not a one-way street in that regard, but I honestly think Rose should get more foul calls than what he currently does. Does he get fouled as often as Howard & Love? No, of course he doesn't, but does he get fouled more than what he gets calls for? Yes.
Edit: It's uncanny how Deng can't hit jumpers with that wrist, but he's shooting better from 3PT than ever.
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United States22883 Posts
Bulls are playing out of their minds right now. Bosh isn't playing well, but Wade is doing fairly well and Lebron is doing great. I mean, you don't expect them to be lights out from 3 most nights but still, they're matching the Heat everywhere else otherwise. Really nice passing.
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Heat getting owned by the Bull's subs right now, funny how overrated the Heat are
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every player gets less fouls then they deserve.
especially tim duncan.
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That was a stupid decision by Korver. Wide open shot in the corner and he gets a turnover instead.
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The Miami role players are the big reason they lost in the Finals and these past few games have to worry Pat Riley. I'm betting that win or lose at the end of the season there is going to be a major roster shake up.
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On March 15 2012 12:28 Holcan wrote:
every player gets less fouls then they deserve.
especially tim duncan.
Yea Timmy gets very little love this days.
the point is no matter how you slice it, Rose was way out of line with his comments and he deserves his fine.
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my duncan line was just a joke since he has been fouled, and never fouled, every play of his life
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Bulls need to keep up on the energy and not let Miami sneak back in this game.
Bulls showing why they're the best team in the NBA without there best player
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United States22883 Posts
On March 15 2012 12:29 Ace wrote:
The Miami role players are the big reason they lost in the Finals and these past few games have to worry Pat Riley. I'm betting that win or lose at the end of the season there is going to be a major roster shake up. Battier's defense has been great, but he's been ice cold as of late from 3. They really need Mike Miller back.
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