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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
June 19 2014 19:05 GMT
#9201
Yeah writing your own CFG for that makes sense although you will need to have two ones depending on what side you play on, otherwise you'll still have to manually add bots only to the other side because the script can't know what team you're playing on as far as I know.
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
June 19 2014 19:05 GMT
#9202
Thanks guys!
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
June 19 2014 19:09 GMT
#9203
On June 20 2014 04:02 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Today was the first day that I tried out the much-suggested aim exercise that a lot of pros use where you play DM 1vX against knife-only bots. It's great, took a bit to figure out how to set it up but when you get it started it really is a power workout. In my competitive game afterwards I felt my aim was MUCH better already after just 45-60 minutes of prior exercise.

In case anybody here is interested and unsure how to do it, this is how it goes:

Click Play->Offline with Bots. Select any random map, set Bots to Expert Level and hit Play. Once you're loaded in, open the console and type "changelevel aim_map". You can use any other aim map if you want to and/or don't have aim_map. When it's done loading, type "bot_kick" to remove all bots. Use "mp_roundtime 15" if you want to practice 15 minutes, otherwise alter the number, "mp_autoteambalance 0" and "mp_limitteams 30" to make sure you can stack the teams in any way you want, then make the bots use knifes only by typing "bot_knives_only 1". You also want to type "sv_infinite_ammo 1" to make sure you don't need to reload. Once that's done let the game restart with "mp_restartgame 1" to update the new round time. Then just kick bots again with "bot_kick" if they autojoin and type "bot_add_t" or "bot_add_ct" to add bots only to the team you're not on, I played 1v5 which works pretty well to start with.

The idea is of course not to find a camper spot on the map where the bots can't reach you, what I did is run into the open middle of aim_map where the bots rush me over and over and just turn around, headshot, headshot, turn around, headshot etc. It's a constant stream of moving and jumping targets and if you miss too much they get close and kill you. Excellent workout really. Thanks to whoever suggested that and posted that video of Scream doing it as well!


Yep its a great way to practice your aim and in my opinion its better than dming. People tend to camp a lot of spots and play for kills in dms instead of constantly run around the map trying to get as much aim practice as possible.
Censured
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1061 Posts
June 19 2014 19:17 GMT
#9204
Hey Musiq and me gonna play some MM, if someone wants to join us (3 people would be ideal) msg me (either here or on steam). We are both around MG1-MG2
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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 19:23:29
June 19 2014 19:23 GMT
#9205
On June 20 2014 03:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 03:43 Fencar wrote:
When would you bother buying a UMP-45 or other SMG/Shotgun? Afaik you buy pistols on save rounds, and on buy rounds you may as well buy an M4 or an AK right?

SMG's are purchased on anti-eco rounds (Basically when you beat them pistol round) since they are super effective against unarmored opponents. However, in higher level play this use doesn't even exist since the pistol round losers buy armor/cz anyway. Shotguns are rarely used but the mag 7 is a strong cheap-buy as CT when you can't afford an M4 and full nades and are holding areas where you can guarantee being up close.

Especially if you go clutch with the swag 7..

On June 20 2014 04:05 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Yeah writing your own CFG for that makes sense although you will need to have two ones depending on what side you play on, otherwise you'll still have to manually add bots only to the other side because the script can't know what team you're playing on as far as I know.



Making two configs won't be hard at all since the only value you need to change is the bots. Why wouldn't you just play the same team every time? If it is because of primary rifle, that is easy to change. There might be a couple other commands that makes all this easier, but right now I'm not at home so I can't look through my configs to see..
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 19:28:35
June 19 2014 19:26 GMT
#9206
On June 20 2014 04:23 Tennet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 03:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
On June 20 2014 03:43 Fencar wrote:
When would you bother buying a UMP-45 or other SMG/Shotgun? Afaik you buy pistols on save rounds, and on buy rounds you may as well buy an M4 or an AK right?

SMG's are purchased on anti-eco rounds (Basically when you beat them pistol round) since they are super effective against unarmored opponents. However, in higher level play this use doesn't even exist since the pistol round losers buy armor/cz anyway. Shotguns are rarely used but the mag 7 is a strong cheap-buy as CT when you can't afford an M4 and full nades and are holding areas where you can guarantee being up close.

Especially if you go clutch with the swag 7..

Please my eco-ace featuring a swag 7 1v3 clutch was as T if I recall.

So basically why you DON'T buy a swag 7 XD
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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 21:00:48
June 19 2014 19:55 GMT
#9207
On June 20 2014 04:23 Tennet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 03:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
On June 20 2014 03:43 Fencar wrote:
When would you bother buying a UMP-45 or other SMG/Shotgun? Afaik you buy pistols on save rounds, and on buy rounds you may as well buy an M4 or an AK right?

SMG's are purchased on anti-eco rounds (Basically when you beat them pistol round) since they are super effective against unarmored opponents. However, in higher level play this use doesn't even exist since the pistol round losers buy armor/cz anyway. Shotguns are rarely used but the mag 7 is a strong cheap-buy as CT when you can't afford an M4 and full nades and are holding areas where you can guarantee being up close.

Especially if you go clutch with the swag 7..

Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 04:05 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Yeah writing your own CFG for that makes sense although you will need to have two ones depending on what side you play on, otherwise you'll still have to manually add bots only to the other side because the script can't know what team you're playing on as far as I know.



Making two configs won't be hard at all since the only value you need to change is the bots. Why wouldn't you just play the same team every time? If it is because of primary rifle, that is easy to change. There might be a couple other commands that makes all this easier, but right now I'm not at home so I can't look through my configs to see..


The side matters because in DM you can't do "give weapon_ak47" or whatever, I tested it and it doesn't work because of the gamemode So you need to join Ts for AK training and CTs for M4 for example. And you can't drop weapons either. Still not a big deal of course, just have 2 CFGs or add the bots yourself.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
June 19 2014 21:41 GMT
#9208
mp_ct_default_primary weapon_m4a1
mp_t_default_primary weapon_ak47

There you go.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 22:23:41
June 19 2014 22:09 GMT
#9209
The more you know. Thanks!

EDIT: Tried it out but it doesn't seem to work unfortunately. If I spawn CT and set "mp_ct_default_primary" to "weapon_ak47" or indeed any other weapon, I still respawn without any primary weapon. "mp_restartgame 1" doesn't help either. As I said though, it's not a big deal to add the bots yourself.

EDIT2: Looks like people that know more about CFGs for CS:GO than me have already done the work! http://csgohelp.com/bottraining/
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
June 19 2014 22:27 GMT
#9210
On June 20 2014 01:00 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 00:53 Fencar wrote:
How is the P250 compared to the CZ75?

Seems like most good players have switched to the CZ75 lately it seems like it's all we saw at DH. I still use the P250 because I'm pretty good with it and I can't CZ75, the fact that it has only 24 bullets makes me nervous. P250 has more ammo, more control, perhaps a bit less potential for a fast kill during a gun round. P250 I'd say has more control where the CZ75 can get you a sick clutch. The P250 is better for kills for a distance whereas the CZ75 can really surprise someone with a rifle in close quarters and get you a chance to get that rifle and use it to win the round.

The CZ75 spray pattern is very simple, just drag toward the bottom left with at a 15-20 degree angle.

I hate p250, i only aim heads and its not perfectly accurate, meaning i often miss perfect shots... 5-7 is my bitch in dm, but too expensive in competitive to my liking.. cz75... somewhat like :-) csgo deagle? Bah, what amazingxkcd wrote earlier.
NoiR
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 23:13:46
June 19 2014 22:48 GMT
#9211
Huh? I'm pretty sure the P250 is accurate? Here's the GIF from the album posted earlier:

[image loading]

It definitely feels like a very accurate pistol to me, and I also prefer it to the CZ.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 23:36:08
June 19 2014 23:35 GMT
#9212
Since ive already compiled this list for some friends of mine, i might as well post it.

A link to many useful guides / websites for beginners and advanced players alike.

AMAZING Starter/Basics guide
http://forums.absurdminds.net/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=2198


Novices guide
http://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1s6pmc/for_all_the_new_players_csgo_beginners_guide/


How to be good at CS:GO at all levels:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=121447468#


Map overviews, Nades & More.
http://operationl2p.com/


Gun recoil patterns
http://twowordbird.com/articles/csgo-recoil-mechanics/


How to fire at range. (Dust 2 A site to Pit)
http://i.imgur.com/SsZuUQa.jpg


adreN_TV (Youtube channel with lots of informational vids)
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCauWzM4ElgQCuwymc3sV42g/videos


What i wont post is the other 3000+ words i wrote along with it for them T.T
Useless wet fish.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 19 2014 23:36 GMT
#9213
that's a nicely compiled list!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
June 19 2014 23:37 GMT
#9214
The cz75 in its current state is extremely broken, which explains why the majority of pros are using it. I'm honestly surprised at how incompetent the valve devs are sometimes.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 20 2014 00:54 GMT
#9215
On June 20 2014 07:48 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Huh? I'm pretty sure the P250 is accurate? Here's the GIF from the album posted earlier:

[image loading]

It definitely feels like a very accurate pistol to me, and I also prefer it to the CZ.

that is the recoil pattern, ignoring the effects of accuracy. The p250 is decent but not THAT accurate
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 20 2014 01:52 GMT
#9216
On June 20 2014 07:27 Nouar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 01:00 Djzapz wrote:
On June 20 2014 00:53 Fencar wrote:
How is the P250 compared to the CZ75?

Seems like most good players have switched to the CZ75 lately it seems like it's all we saw at DH. I still use the P250 because I'm pretty good with it and I can't CZ75, the fact that it has only 24 bullets makes me nervous. P250 has more ammo, more control, perhaps a bit less potential for a fast kill during a gun round. P250 I'd say has more control where the CZ75 can get you a sick clutch. The P250 is better for kills for a distance whereas the CZ75 can really surprise someone with a rifle in close quarters and get you a chance to get that rifle and use it to win the round.

The CZ75 spray pattern is very simple, just drag toward the bottom left with at a 15-20 degree angle.

I hate p250, i only aim heads and its not perfectly accurate, meaning i often miss perfect shots... 5-7 is my bitch in dm, but too expensive in competitive to my liking.. cz75... somewhat like :-) csgo deagle? Bah, what amazingxkcd wrote earlier.

My friends say I'm disproportionately good with the P250 when comparing it to the rest of my skill with other guns. That's not to say I'm great, far from it x_x. But yeah, I get some work done.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
June 20 2014 02:20 GMT
#9217
cs liquipedia + rebranding of liquiddota into liquidvalve

one can dream
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
June 20 2014 03:00 GMT
#9218
On June 20 2014 11:20 trifecta wrote:
cs liquipedia + rebranding of liquiddota into liquidvalve

one can dream

http://kniferound.net/wiki/Main_Page
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-20 08:12:30
June 20 2014 08:09 GMT
#9219
Tofu dies a little inside everytime somebody says that and has to be linked to his wiki D:

@Sno_Mans comment. What are "the effects of accuracy" - Don't all guns get less accurate at the same rates when moving / jumping etc? Or is it different depending on the gun? Considering that recoil pattern is just sprayed from standstill im not sure what else you could mean. Unless you mean the time it takes for recoil to reset after not firing?
Useless wet fish.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 20 2014 08:57 GMT
#9220
CZ 75s are the best handguns in real life
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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