EPTOn June 20 2014 00:39 farvacola wrote:
It used to be much, much worse lol.
It used to be much, much worse lol.
I know man. But I'm still not going to use it
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amazingxkcd
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I know man. But I'm still not going to use it | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On June 20 2014 00:39 farvacola wrote: It used to be much, much worse lol. Also used to be a much much better. There was a 2 day period where the deagle was basically better than rifles because it was a 2 hit kill from any distance. In competitive play half the people played with deagles and the other half complained incessantly. (I was in the second half) | ||
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On June 20 2014 00:53 Fencar wrote: How is the P250 compared to the CZ75? CZ is basically an automatic P250. You choose between automatic fire vs # of clips. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On June 20 2014 00:53 Fencar wrote: How is the P250 compared to the CZ75? I use it because I can spam with it and because I cannot for the life of me figure out the CZ spray pattern. However, its kinda just worse if ur a good player afaik. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On June 20 2014 00:53 Fencar wrote: How is the P250 compared to the CZ75? Seems like most good players have switched to the CZ75 lately it seems like it's all we saw at DH. I still use the P250 because I'm pretty good with it and I can't CZ75, the fact that it has only 24 bullets makes me nervous. P250 has more ammo, more control, perhaps a bit less potential for a fast kill during a gun round. P250 I'd say has more control where the CZ75 can get you a sick clutch. The P250 is better for kills for a distance whereas the CZ75 can really surprise someone with a rifle in close quarters and get you a chance to get that rifle and use it to win the round. The CZ75 spray pattern is very simple, just drag toward the bottom left with at a 15-20 degree angle. | ||
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Tennet
United States1458 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
But yeah, i wouldn't really recommend it over other guns and especially not in an eco O.o which makes it pointless because of its cost. It IS beast tho, being able to dink someone for 1/2 their HP is fun D: | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On June 20 2014 01:00 Djzapz wrote: Seems like most good players have switched to the CZ75 lately it seems like it's all we saw at DH. I still use the P250 because I'm pretty good with it and I can't CZ75, the fact that it has only 24 bullets makes me nervous. P250 has more ammo, more control, perhaps a bit less potential for a fast kill during a gun round. P250 I'd say has more control where the CZ75 can get you a sick clutch. The P250 is better for kills for a distance whereas the CZ75 can really surprise someone with a rifle in close quarters and get you a chance to get that rifle and use it to win the round. The CZ75 spray pattern is very simple, just drag toward the bottom left with at a 15-20 degree angle. On an Eco round you don't really want to be getting into long range fights. That's what makes the CZ so strong. In the smaller spaces you basically just as strong as a rifle. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On June 20 2014 01:19 Numy wrote: On an Eco round you don't really want to be getting into long range fights. That's what makes the CZ so strong. In the smaller spaces you basically just as strong as a rifle. except when I use it, i can sometimes win battles at long range (say pit to site on Dust2). That feels so fucking good getting 1-2 taps | ||
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NihiLStarcraft
Denmark1413 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2gLkaBw.jpg) I'm can FEEL my first promotion, Gold Nova here I come!  | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On June 20 2014 01:19 Numy wrote: On an Eco round you don't really want to be getting into long range fights. That's what makes the CZ so strong. In the smaller spaces you basically just as strong as a rifle. You don't want to be getting into long range fights but you inevitably do, frankly. If the other team knows what they're doing, especially if they're CTs, they'll play from a distance and set up crossfires so that it's not easy to pick them off from too close. The P250 fares decently from mid range which is great to have sometimes when things don't go as expected. And let's be honest, save rounds are all crisis management and clutch shots. That's not to say the CZ75 is bad, obviously it's preferable to pick close up fights with pistols... And perhaps just generally better, though I do too well with the P250 and too badly with the CZ to do the switch myself. | ||
tofucake
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
Also got my other account in DMG, time to grind for eagle I guess | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
I got a tie and ranked up to DMG though so :D | ||
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On June 20 2014 03:43 Fencar wrote: When would you bother buying a UMP-45 or other SMG/Shotgun? Afaik you buy pistols on save rounds, and on buy rounds you may as well buy an M4 or an AK right? Typically after you win the pistol round. You get more money for kills with SMGs (not P90) or Shotguns so as long as you pick up some kills with it you come out ahead. If you buy a galil or famas after winning the pistol round and die then you're screwing over yourself and your team. If you can play back then you can murder their whole team relatively easily though. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On June 20 2014 03:43 Fencar wrote: When would you bother buying a UMP-45 or other SMG/Shotgun? Afaik you buy pistols on save rounds, and on buy rounds you may as well buy an M4 or an AK right? SMG's are purchased on anti-eco rounds (Basically when you beat them pistol round) since they are super effective against unarmored opponents. However, in higher level play this use doesn't even exist since the pistol round losers buy armor/cz anyway. Shotguns are rarely used but the mag 7 is a strong cheap-buy as CT when you can't afford an M4 and full nades and are holding areas where you can guarantee being up close. | ||
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NihiLStarcraft
Denmark1413 Posts
In case anybody here is interested and unsure how to do it, this is how it goes: Click Play->Offline with Bots. Select any random map, set Bots to Expert Level and hit Play. Once you're loaded in, open the console and type "changelevel aim_map". You can use any other aim map if you want to and/or don't have aim_map. When it's done loading, type "bot_kick" to remove all bots. Use "mp_roundtime 15" if you want to practice 15 minutes, otherwise alter the number, "mp_autoteambalance 0" and "mp_limitteams 30" to make sure you can stack the teams in any way you want, then make the bots use knifes only by typing "bot_knives_only 1". You also want to type "sv_infinite_ammo 1" to make sure you don't need to reload. Once that's done let the game restart with "mp_restartgame 1" to update the new round time. Then just kick bots again with "bot_kick" if they autojoin and type "bot_add_t" or "bot_add_ct" to add bots only to the team you're not on, I played 1v5 which works pretty well to start with. The idea is of course not to find a camper spot on the map where the bots can't reach you, what I did is run into the open middle of aim_map where the bots rush me over and over and just turn around, headshot, headshot, turn around, headshot etc. It's a constant stream of moving and jumping targets and if you miss too much they get close and kill you. Excellent workout really. Thanks to whoever suggested that and posted that video of Scream doing it as well! | ||
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Sn0_Man
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