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tofucake
Hyrule19203 Posts
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Shelke14
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 19 2014 07:23 Shelke14 wrote: I don't think Nuke is Madly CT favored anymore and has actually moved more to the balanced side than it was back in 1.6. T's have a lot more strategies given the new secret area being added. I dunno about that. Was watching a pro-match yesterday (i think it was recorded), but commentators mentioned that first half round, CT has to get to 11 rounds in first half to have a pretty secure win in 2nd half (due to switch). | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On February 19 2014 05:45 wei2coolman wrote: I like Vertigo, am I a bad person? No, I also think Vertigo is a decent map On February 19 2014 07:17 tofucake wrote: Train is actually pretty well balanced, it's just requires really good technical skills. To me, Train has always seem like a map that really puts teamwork to the test | ||
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loginn
France815 Posts
On February 19 2014 07:17 tofucake wrote: Train is actually pretty well balanced, it's just requires really good technical skills. I would never play Train without 5 stacking. It's horrible if your teammates do random stuff. | ||
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oscar62
Canada417 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On February 19 2014 01:18 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Wow, all these bad experiences. I solo queue most of the time and I find such circumstances nowhere as frequently as you make out. It happens, but only rarely. In fact, a lot of the times, the best teamwork has come from a group of solos. In such teams between people who never met each other before, I'll see them freely giving each other drops. And winning between a 5 man team and a group of randoms is about 50/50, which is about right. You are complaining about being in a group of randoms. Seriously, nobody on either side wants to hear it. You are making your own team worse by complaining. They are right. So suck it up. Strangely enough, some of the worse is when you are grouped with a team of 2 or 3, since for whatever reason, they seem to think this gives them both the ability to give calls and endlessly complain about teamwork. But really, my experience has been nowhere near as bad as you make out. I don't care about being in a group of randoms, I expect it. I also expect the other team to be the same though, not a 5man group pre-organized to do ranked and stomp random people thrown together on the spot. That shouldn't be allowed ever, period. If you wanna queue with 4 other friends and have a full team you must fight other teams doing the same, and they should expect to fight 5man teams just the same. Idk the toxicity I experienced in that single night of competitive is more than I can really remember ever having in 1.6 or condition zero or even TF2. Community has gone downhill a ton. | ||
Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
Or if they use smurfs, so you don't get a balanced team on your own side. Also except from what I heard from LoL not a lot of games enforce such rules (that you cannot queue on normal queue with a full stack). In SC2 RT vs AT was (is?) possible, in Dota2 5stack vs 5 randoms is possible, ... | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
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Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Now you're just confused. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On February 19 2014 10:43 Souma wrote: Well first you say "it shouldn't be allowed, ever, period," then you say "DotA2 does it right... as only a very last resort." Now you're just confused. It shouldn't be allowed in ranked, correct. Dota2 matchmaking is different. Separate modes. | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
I read rumors that they had a Team MM client on DH for CSGO. So they're working on it. I would also like to add that the competitive MM in CSGO is nothing compared to competitive MM in Dota2; since casual CSGO is an utter joke compared to casual Dota2 (which uses the same ruleset as competitive Dota2). | ||
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Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Why couldn't they do it with CS:GO? Dota2 matches you with other people who Q'd together too. It will place you with randoms as only a very last resort. meaning you agree it's okay as a very last resort. But okay, I don't wanna get into such a pointless argument so, in terms of the issue at hand, iirc Valve had an update months ago that improved ranked matchmaking and pitting five-man stacks against a team of five randoms. It's possible your teams aren't a team of five randoms but made up of people who queued together with one or two randoms. Either that or it was... a very last resort. Unfortunately, CS:GO doesn't have the player base that DotA2 has so you'll more often play against at least partial stacks. But CS:GO is also entirely different from DotA in that stacks matter a lot less at this level since the "support" role is a lot more intricate than the support role in DotA and people just end up not having support roles at all at the lower levels, meaning you just have completely useless bottom fraggers that you can pick on. At least in DotA, you can buy wards, couriers, etc. as a feeding support, but in CS:GO, at the lower levels, most people don't know how to smoke or flash properly (in fact, you see a lot of people flashing their own team), so having a stack doesn't matter all that much. It starts mattering more at the higher levels when people actually know how to play, but solo queueing is more uncommon at those ranks. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19203 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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DPK
Canada487 Posts
Sure the MM system isn't perfect, but I rather have quick games to help me get better then waiting for hours so that the MM system could give me the "prefect" match. At least CSGO have a matchmaking and we can finally play competitive (even if you're not good) without the hassle that it was in previous games. | ||
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Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
From my experience though, matchmaking seems to be really good. 90% of the time you have really balanced teams rank-wise. To be honest, I don't think I can ask for more. | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
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