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China DoTA team CCM bought for $6million

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kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 17:55:16
August 03 2011 17:46 GMT
#1
Source:
http://dota.178.com/201108/106296243403.html

Basically, the China Team named CCM known for their DotA players, (they have SC2 and LoL players as well) has been bought for $6million big bucks.

They will be renamed to Invictus Gaming, also known for short as iG.

Their most famous SC2 player is arguably xiaoT.

Basically there is some sort of drama saying this business man (also a son of a billionaire) is causing another really stable and one of the strongest China team I know personally, LGD, to disband.
Before this million dollar tournament in IEM, which both iG and LGD is invited, 4 members of LGD has allegedly left the team. Sicong Wang is being "accused" of sowing seeds of discord in the team.

Will translate this news ASAP. Loose translation here:

+ Show Spoiler +

CCM renamed to iG, LGD disbanded, WE will be next?

With the news about the big prize of dota2 showmatch, Chinese dota scene also has many important events today.

A rich man named Sicong Wang purchases the entire CCM clan including its sc2, dota and lol department, and thus CCM is renamed to iG(Invictus Gaming) now. Rumors said Sicong Wang takes 40,000,000 RMB to buy CCM, and this is just his first action to join Chinese esports.

source:
LGD

Quickly, the further action has been taken. LGD's manager ruru confirmed LGD is disbanded. yyf, chuan,ch,830 quits LGD and zsmj still stay. Rumor said the 5th person is PIS. So these 5 people may form a new team called Wanda. Wanda is the company of Sicong Wang's father.

I guess these 2 teams may focus on dota and dota2 respectively.


But the thing doesn't end. After the disband declaration claimed by ruru, Sicong Wang responses to her inexact declaration as following:

1. iG is not related to Wanda company.
2. Initially iG makes a communication with 830 and yyf and wants to give them a better opportunity to do self development.
a. The members of ex-LGD hope they can do it through their self efforts.
b. Later the members of ex-LGD are convinced after they understand what iG can offer for them in essence.
c. The members of ex-LGD believe iG is a professional and systematized clan and they don't need to bother anything except match.
3. iG lets the members of ex-LGD could consider this carefully, and hopes the ex-LGD still plays WCG in the name of LGD. At the meanwhile, the organizer of WCG confirms LGD can still participate in WCG.

In other word, Sicong Wang just wants to say: The 4 members of LGD decides to leave LGD by themselve. Don't flame me making the most stable team in China disbaned.

In addition, a rumor said WE will be reshuffled again and most of old members will quits. Not sure if related to Sicong Wang again.

source:
http://dota.178.com/201108/106296243403.html


latest updated:
1. visa for 4 members of LGD is granted.
2. after the declaration claimed by Sicong Wang above, ruru responses that iG buys the 4 members of LGD in the prize of 200.000 RMB totally.
3. A big rumor said 2009 will come back to reform FTD fighting for GameCon in the name of iG. Do we will see such a FTP appearing in our sights?

IG.FTD.2009
IG.FTD.CH
IG.FTD.YYF
IG.FTD.CHUAN
IG.FTD.830GOD

source:
LGD

I think this is very possible. Because you guys noted that this rich kid really want to make an earthquake on Chinese esports. His father recently sponsors 300,000,000 RMB to Chinese football league. So the folks fingure out this guy wanna create a Chinese esports league like Korean. So his first action is being reforming some pro teams and involving other teams joining the esports league. It is said that these days the similar things like the reshuffle of dota will happen on sc2, war3 and lol as well.

In addition, zsmj has conflict with 2009 due to the enmity in FTD days(If you often visit sgamer, you should see the girlfriend of zsmj flamed 2009 several times. And LGD once officially announced a message mentioning 2009 took the money from LGD and then left. I think this was dicussed in gosu). This is the major reason why zsmj doesn't leave LGD. Actually as you see at #64 and according to the mood of zsmj, it seems that the big change on LGD is caused by 2009. Now 2009 comes back and take everything from zsmj. So sad for zsmj. I guess 2009 archives a private agreement with iG and promise the reborn FTP replacing LGD will champions GameCon for sure for iG for 2009's new boss. I guess they even plan to convince VALUE to yield to their requirement and allow iG.FTD to play GameCon. What a conspiracy theorist I am lol.

4. Rumors continues: Zhou and 430 may leave iG. The following is my guesses. You guys remembered the conflict between zhou/430 and the organizers of DMT? Yes. This is the root cause. Wanda company is located at Da Lian province and the organizers and sponsors of DMT comes from Da Lian province as well. Anyway, DMT is a commercial activity. Sicong Wang of course knows it, and thus he prepares to kick out zhou and 430 because they stir up trouble in Da Lian, his turf. If it is true, there is no any stable pro Chinese dota team any more.

source:
LGD

5. This is a thread from sgamer. The poster had a chat with iG.jason who is the spokesman of iG. In this picture, jason said 2009 is invited to be the special consultant and iG doesn't plan to form a new team around 2009. iG.FTD is not admitted at all.

So those 4 members leave LGD and go to iG for what? WTF!

6. The 5th people might be EH.820 playing carry. If it is true, Ehome will be the next affected team.

source:
LGD

7. iG.jason said they don't invite zsmj because iG had already confirmed their final roster. Also, iG plans to own 2 teams but the members of 2 teams may exchange each other from time to time. So there is no different between them.

WTF! Actually you just own 1 team with 10 members for enough substitute member? With team manager, you can form a football team like Wanda.


More news:
Edit 1
News 1: CCM is being bought by a billionaire's young son, and is renamed the invictus gaming.

News 2: 4 members from LGD (chuan,ch,830,yyf) has left LGD to join WanDa whereas ZSMJ chooses to stay in the team, LGD is disbanded temporarily.

News 1 is a mere rumour in sgamer whereas news 2 is comfirmed by ruru, LGD's manager, in the microblog post that she posted just now.

The interesting fact is, it person behind all this seems to be one person alone and he seems to have bought BOTH lgd (except zsmj) AND ccm....this sicong wang >.< (son of president of WanDa company, one of the richest person in china)

(Source: GosuGamer)

Edit 2:
I went to browse the China forums regarding LGD disbanding. Most of the replies are of disbelief and the fans seem generally disappointed (LGD is known as the "perfect team that stays together", kind of like those Hollywood couples who represent "true love")
Most of them want more details on why they disbanded and are all pretty upset by it @_@!
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
vohne
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines197 Posts
August 03 2011 17:47 GMT
#2
wow! money being poured into esports!
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
August 03 2011 17:48 GMT
#3
Theres already another thread out.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 03 2011 17:50 GMT
#4
Holy shit, 6 million. Serious business, I'd love money to toss around to manage my own team.
Lazarus, you there man? Let's start something ;D
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
August 03 2011 17:51 GMT
#5
Will be updating this thread with news I can find from my dota background
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
King[Neikos]
Profile Joined September 2010
Costa Rica506 Posts
August 03 2011 17:53 GMT
#6
wow, gotta wonder how big will the dota2 scene be when it finally releases
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
August 03 2011 17:54 GMT
#7
Nice, two threads almost at the same spot in the left navi. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=250930
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
August 03 2011 17:56 GMT
#8
Chinease are the koreans of dota, but their is much less skill gap cause the game revolves around teamwork not just strategy. I am glad to see this happen though, I am big hon/dota player.
if you can believe you can concieve
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 03 2011 17:57 GMT
#9
wonder how much IM and oGs cost right now lol:p MC, Nestea and MVP is the best of 3 races and whoever buy these 2 teams will has the strongest roster in the history
Ophi13
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada238 Posts
August 03 2011 17:59 GMT
#10
New update:

1.eXLoSs Gaming created from one of chinese universities took over zsmj with other no-team players
2. Nekomata back to the scene!!! this is to fill up the new team.
3. LGD is still with zsmj but they'll be using new tag "eXLoSs' for GC
... i'm not sure about the sponsorship but here is the lineup:

eXLoSs.N3komata(c)
eXLoSs.ZSMJ
eXLoSs.Burning
eXLoSs.NataJ
eXLoSs.Dgc

might be a rumor.

Just got this from a gosugamer poster. :D
I love Lindsey Sporrer :)
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
August 03 2011 18:13 GMT
#11
http://www.playdota.com/forums/505603-post2691005/so-called-ig-chinese-dota-needs-reshuffle/
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
August 03 2011 18:15 GMT
#12
On August 04 2011 02:59 Ophi13 wrote:
New update:

1.eXLoSs Gaming created from one of chinese universities took over zsmj with other no-team players
2. Nekomata back to the scene!!! this is to fill up the new team.
3. LGD is still with zsmj but they'll be using new tag "eXLoSs' for GC
... i'm not sure about the sponsorship but here is the lineup:

eXLoSs.N3komata(c)
eXLoSs.ZSMJ
eXLoSs.Burning
eXLoSs.NataJ
eXLoSs.Dgc

might be a rumor.

Just got this from a gosugamer poster. :D


Burning+ZSMJ+DGC Sick Line up(if this rumor is true)
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
August 03 2011 18:21 GMT
#13
On August 04 2011 02:56 TheWarbler wrote:
Chinease are the koreans of dota, but their is much less skill gap cause the game revolves around teamwork not just strategy. I am glad to see this happen though, I am big hon/dota player.

the skill gap between chinese and non chinese teams is incredibly large. At ESWC no one could even touch Ehome, at smm 2010 they took top 4. At WDC Navi could take out a few chinese teams though, but top 2 was still chinese.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 03 2011 18:23 GMT
#14
On August 04 2011 03:21 mdma-_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 02:56 TheWarbler wrote:
Chinease are the koreans of dota, but their is much less skill gap cause the game revolves around teamwork not just strategy. I am glad to see this happen though, I am big hon/dota player.

the skill gap between chinese and non chinese teams is incredibly large. At ESWC no one could even touch Ehome, at smm 2010 they took top 4. At WDC Navi could take out a few chinese teams though, but top 2 was still chinese.

that was DTS, currently Na'Vi has 3 of the same players but their playstyle is very different from DTS because of the 2 different players.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 18:26:50
August 03 2011 18:26 GMT
#15
So basically, if I understand this properly, CCM and LGD were both bought out by the same gentleman to either become two new teams, or one large team with "two squads". CCM transitioned cleanly, but LGD members had mixed feelings and some internal tension, so that purchase went a lot less smoothly, and appears as a disband or fracture?

If I understand correctly?
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 03 2011 18:27 GMT
#16
On August 04 2011 03:26 Duka08 wrote:
So basically, if I understand this properly, CCM and LGD were both bought out by the same gentleman to either become two new teams, or one large team with "two squads". CCM transitioned cleanly, but LGD members had mixed feelings and some internal tension, so that purchase went a lot less smoothly, and appears as a disband or fracture?

If I understand correctly?

CCM was bought out. LGD was not, but their members were "invited" with the exception of ZSMJ, the reasons can be speculated why he was not, but I'm sure skill was not one of them.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
August 03 2011 18:32 GMT
#17
On August 04 2011 03:27 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 03:26 Duka08 wrote:
So basically, if I understand this properly, CCM and LGD were both bought out by the same gentleman to either become two new teams, or one large team with "two squads". CCM transitioned cleanly, but LGD members had mixed feelings and some internal tension, so that purchase went a lot less smoothly, and appears as a disband or fracture?

If I understand correctly?

CCM was bought out. LGD was not, but their members were "invited" with the exception of ZSMJ, the reasons can be speculated why he was not, but I'm sure skill was not one of them.

But the four members of LGD were "invited" to the same team (iG) that CCM became, yes? So there was probably some persuasion involved. According to some of the stories/netizens there is a bit of tension between some of the LGD members (to my surprise actually, as netizens have said they seem "solid"), so perhaps the invitation was extended to only one or two members or the captain first, who then approached the rest of the team EXCEPT zsmj.

Either way, interesting drama. That is a huge cash infusion though.
Ophi13
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada238 Posts
August 03 2011 18:34 GMT
#18
On August 04 2011 03:15 parazice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 02:59 Ophi13 wrote:
New update:

1.eXLoSs Gaming created from one of chinese universities took over zsmj with other no-team players
2. Nekomata back to the scene!!! this is to fill up the new team.
3. LGD is still with zsmj but they'll be using new tag "eXLoSs' for GC
... i'm not sure about the sponsorship but here is the lineup:

eXLoSs.N3komata(c)
eXLoSs.ZSMJ
eXLoSs.Burning
eXLoSs.NataJ
eXLoSs.Dgc

might be a rumor.

Just got this from a gosugamer poster. :D


Burning+ZSMJ+DGC Sick Line up(if this rumor is true)



I miss those epic blackholes. :D
I love Lindsey Sporrer :)
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
August 03 2011 18:38 GMT
#19
The DotA scene is so big over there in China. Actually, the DotA scene is huge in Asia in general with frequent matches between neighboring Asian countries. At first, I thought WC3 was huge in China, but DotA is a whole different level.
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 18:44:34
August 03 2011 18:44 GMT
#20
DotA/WC3 in China (hype and skill wise) is like Starcraft:BW and SC2 in Korea.

Edit: They live in a team house and prac together etc as well
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
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