• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:30
CEST 08:30
KST 15:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0
StarCraft 2
General
Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away GSTL Returns in 2026! SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall 2026 GSTL Announcement Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 ASL22 General Discussion Pros React To: First 'Fastest' Map in ASL History BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Toronto invitational lan 22 august [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro24 Group B [ASL22] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck? Artificial Intelligence Thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
The Creator Fan Club MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Young Players Exit Esports E…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5159 users

Path of Exile - Page 627

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 625 626 627 628 629 1759 Next
Guild invites: Message any of EvoSenseOfPride, ScionViableORly, neophyteWham, TheTouchOfGOLD in game
OR
post your character name in the thread and ask for an invite
Private league ladder (finished): https://www.pathofexile.com/private-leagues/league/TeamLiquid and friends
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3458 Posts
December 18 2013 19:10 GMT
#12521
You sure wanna do low life crit wander ? I think you either have to choose CI/full life hybrid/full life at least. This will halt your dmg somewhat but then you would still 1-hit most mob with a GG wand. Crit for 50k and you need a 9k hp/es bank, crit 30 and you need 5.4k bank at least.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 18 2013 19:13 GMT
#12522
Well if you think about your ES pool here.

like 450 from Shavs. 300 from crown. 350 from boots/gloves combined (optimistic). Thats 1100. Plus shield is probably 400 for now. That makes 1500.

Now, Belt/Rings/Ammy might add another 100 base, but I'd be surprised if you got much more though you don't need chayula at least. Prolly need dream frags.

1600 times like 3 total (150 from tree, 50 from int, makes 200% increased) is under 5K es. And you will have shit-tacular armor (essentially 0). Thats definitely 1-shot territory IMO. And this is with a 400 es shield.

Now, a bit more int, a %es roll on ammy/ring, and you might be closer to 5.5K but I'm not sure how safe that is with 0 armor vs critflect anyway. Now imagine Double-reflect in a vulnerability map. Yeah....

I dunno seems really greedy.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 23:50:45
December 18 2013 19:22 GMT
#12523
i have 420 from gloves and shoes, plus 90 from amulet and belt. maybe i'll get a nice es ring for another 60 es. 250ish int from gear. have a 440 es shield sitting in stash

i'll try to get a 500 es shield with 40 int on it, or an archon kite shield with 500 es but that seems expensive.

so 1700 es from gear * 400% is probably where i end up without dream fragments, which i'll keep in inventory for swaps
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 20:11:32
December 18 2013 20:10 GMT
#12524
I think that's wildly optimistic but I mean you can try it

If I were you I'd be tempted to just respec buff_me_pls for 2ex worth of regrets lol.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 18 2013 20:27 GMT
#12525
waiting for a full respec lol. i still need to buy the 20 regret books to reset bandit quests
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 18 2013 20:37 GMT
#12526
oh LOL

Just relevel at that point imo XD.

I guess for this build you would take Alira/Kraityn/Alira or None/Kraityn/Alira yeah?
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 20:40:37
December 18 2013 20:39 GMT
#12527
kill all, kill all, alira i think. really need the points. i guess more deeps will just kill myself faster and i already have like +300% dmg from crown and everything. maybe kraitlyn attack speed in cruel idk
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 18 2013 20:42 GMT
#12528
Well 8 attackspeed seems better than say a random 12% wand or spell dmg node that you could drop, no?

whatever. The interesting part is the wand but ur too pussy to craft it
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3458 Posts
December 18 2013 20:45 GMT
#12529
On December 19 2013 05:42 Sn0_Man wrote:

whatever. The interesting part is the wand but ur too pussy to craft it


2nd this. We want a mirror-able wand on domination right now
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 18 2013 20:49 GMT
#12530
You probably want the skill point for additional survival stats. You're not going to be lacking damage.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 18 2013 20:50 GMT
#12531
hm yea i'll buy eternals. but i am not really playing that much atm and only doing market pvp. maybe i can make more money that way lol and fund the crafting
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 21:07:29
December 18 2013 21:06 GMT
#12532
You also need to redo your build because it only has 40DEX right now. No way you can use skill gems with that.

well you're right next to several +30 DEX nodes, but you still need to think about what you're going to drop to pick them up.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 18 2013 21:36 GMT
#12533
This reminds me of my build where I went 8 points for IR in a build that is already stretched paper-thin points wise. Eventually I had to drop the IR simply to get a bit more reasonable life total and other things that were too important, despite still being unwavering (RIP my ~2K evasion lol). That low life wand build is stretched too thin (until you hit like 95 I guess) so you need to figure out what is the part you can afford to cut IMO. And I think its dmg nodes.

My build is still hilariously greedy though (15% life reserved, all over the entire tree, etc).
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 22:31:46
December 18 2013 22:27 GMT
#12534
i think i can get about 20 dex from gear. not enough i know lol. those wand nodes at the top of the tree look pretty op, 30% added ele dmg on wand. but the point cost is really prohibitive. i guess i'll drop them
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 18 2013 22:44 GMT
#12535
I agree I thought they were kinda the best wand nodes (after elder wand or w/e) but they are definitely also the most expensive point wise.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 18 2013 22:59 GMT
#12536
i guess i could also run a high lvl discipline aura for more es. it gives like 300 flat es, which is pretty big.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 18 2013 23:47 GMT
#12537
I'd also be curious about your accuracy situation. What chance to hit do you think you have and how much acc gear do you have?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 23:53:33
December 18 2013 23:53 GMT
#12538
i have 130 from wand and 250 from crown. that's about all the accuracy i have plus around 150 from dex. i guess it's not enough eh
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 00:13:17
December 19 2013 00:05 GMT
#12539
On December 19 2013 08:53 oneofthem wrote:
i have 130 from wand and 250 from crown. that's about all the accuracy i have plus around 150 from dex. i guess it's not enough eh


You should have at least 220 from DEX (2 per point) as you need ~110DEX to use LMP or GMP (unless you're not gonna level 20 them); plus two per levelup is another 160 or so. Can use this as some rough estimate, but I have no clue what you actually want to strive for.

It is pretty clear that you're going to need more though or use the accuracy support gem.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 19 2013 00:17 GMT
#12540
Blitz is the official TL PoE fun police i think. No fun allowed XD
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Prev 1 625 626 627 628 629 1759 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
23:00
FSL s11 - code S championships
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft531
ProTech27
Trikslyr15
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1548
actioN 1208
Larva 354
Dota 2
The International88355
Gorgc5751
singsing1355
NeuroSwarm111
League of Legends
JimRising 728
Counter-Strike
edward27
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King185
Other Games
summit1g9781
C9.Mang0286
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick493
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH333
• Hupsaiya 89
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Light_VIP 21
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota246
• Noizen29
League of Legends
• Rush1394
• Lourlo1025
• Stunt379
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
3h 30m
PiG Sty Festival
5h 30m
Zoun vs Solar
SHIN vs Maru
Patches Events
9h 30m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 3h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 5h
TBD vs Reynor
Serral vs TBD
OSC
1d 9h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
hero vs ggaemo
Larva vs Mong
The Patches Monday
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soulkey vs PianO
JyJ vs sSak
GSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Mini vs Calm
Queen vs EffOrt
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W8
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.