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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
December 21 2013 05:47 GMT
#12561
On December 21 2013 09:30 Pwere wrote:
It depends on your class. If you have leap slam, some areas you'll jump from pack to pack, others you'll simply run/jump through. If you have ST, you'll kite in (almost?) all areas.
Ship Graveyard is the only place that I don't even think about engaging anything. But really, you should skip as long as you don't need the levels. I think the checkpoints look a bit like this:
+ Show Spoiler +
2 in Mud Flats.
4 before Ledge.
9 before Brutus.
11 by the end of Cove.
12 before Merveil
15 before Sins 1

Farm as little as possible as long as you don't get an XP penalty. Kill rare/blue packs, and juicy packs and you'll usually be fine. Then it's all about knowing dungeon layouts, tricks for your particular class, and what/when to craft.
Note: I suck at 2h races and haven't done regular races in a long time, but the idea stays the same.

Its not really a checkpoint but more like a minimum.

3 and 50% by ledge. (Usually get there between 3 and 50% and 4 and 50% depending on how trolly Submerged has been.)
I like to be 8 by brutus, but if you feel like you can take him you can do it at 7. (happens very rarely, but worth noting.)
11 by merveil so you can use sapphires. (I never actually hit the min though. Usually 12-13.)
15 before sins. (so you dont get massive xp penalties.)
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ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
December 21 2013 14:56 GMT
#12562
On December 21 2013 08:56 oneofthem wrote:
what are the other dangerous/bad exp areas you skip, after say brutus? i can get into the top 50 pretty ok for most of the races but i fall behind later on because i don't know which areas to skip and which to farm

Just skip ship graveyard (you can kill big pirate packs if they're safe though) and the exploding squid cave before merveil, unless you really need the experience. Most skip as much as possible in prisoners as well, I personally think it's pretty decent farming zone as long as you have something to help you run past the big bad flame dog. (quicksilver, leap slam, movespeed boots, harrier + take off armor as scion)
You don't actually need that much to kill merveil with no mods. Usually want 1 item with cold res (usually sapphire ring), but if you have some from gear + at least as scion you get 10 allres by the time you're there depending on spec then you can kill her with 2x iron ring + rustic as long as you tp out to heal 1-3 times depending on freeze rng/medium pots.


For 1 hour you always end up in sins1, except maybe party races were you can go church in the end I think. For 90 min you should usually end up in church near the end.

For longer races, I've actually only started doing this recently, but get the blackwood wp before you go into sins, and as a result you will be much stronger when you enter, which will make the whole sins2 and especially 3 much smoother.

For 90 min races with no mods your goal is generally sarns unless you're Witch, or have really terrible rng/run. I think even the 105 min signature witch record was done by farming Western Forest.

Anything longer (except easy mods 3hour party) is farming docks. Remember in these kind of races to pick up as many portals as possible, that way you can play greedy in docks and only clear 1 direction and don't have to run back to fullclear. If you run out, you usually sell everything and buy more (3 id scrolls per port) or simply log out every reset. The log out method kind of sucks though if you have an aura.
sprættemætute
Boggler
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada234 Posts
December 21 2013 18:00 GMT
#12563
On December 19 2013 10:19 travis wrote:
RIP 79 ranger

ohhhh
its really starting to sink in now

these feels


Reeped 72 Scion Summoner Nemesis.

Walked up to Piety, a few seconds later, I was dead. Never saw it coming. Had killed Piety a few times already. Is this desync?
Time is money, friend!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 21 2013 18:20 GMT
#12564
On December 22 2013 03:00 Boggler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 10:19 travis wrote:
RIP 79 ranger

ohhhh
its really starting to sink in now

these feels


Reeped 72 Scion Summoner Nemesis.

Walked up to Piety, a few seconds later, I was dead. Never saw it coming. Had killed Piety a few times already. Is this desync?


Piety lightning can instagib you even at 79% resist and 3.5k health if you're unlucky with the damage rolls. Standing next to her isn't a good idea.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Boggler
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada234 Posts
December 21 2013 18:40 GMT
#12565
On December 22 2013 03:20 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 03:00 Boggler wrote:
On December 19 2013 10:19 travis wrote:
RIP 79 ranger

ohhhh
its really starting to sink in now

these feels


Reeped 72 Scion Summoner Nemesis.

Walked up to Piety, a few seconds later, I was dead. Never saw it coming. Had killed Piety a few times already. Is this desync?


Piety lightning can instagib you even at 79% resist and 3.5k health if you're unlucky with the damage rolls. Standing next to her isn't a good idea.


I guess that is possible. I wasn't really standing next to her.

Going to start leveling again later today.

Not exactly sure what to play though.
Time is money, friend!
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 18:56:55
December 21 2013 18:56 GMT
#12566
Lvl 82 Nemesis Shockwave Rauder got put into Standard because I lost Internet connection and I play solo

guess the rare mob I was dealing with had enough burst before GGG server considered me DCed

got a Lvl 60 Double Strike / ST Duelist though so I'll continue my Nemesis play there

should be far far better than playing a Shockwave character in Nemesis, but I enjoyed playing with Shockwave and didn't mine dealing with its deficiencies (low DPS 3.7K totems & desync)
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 19:34:56
December 21 2013 19:33 GMT
#12567
On December 22 2013 03:40 Boggler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 03:20 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 22 2013 03:00 Boggler wrote:
On December 19 2013 10:19 travis wrote:
RIP 79 ranger

ohhhh
its really starting to sink in now

these feels


Reeped 72 Scion Summoner Nemesis.

Walked up to Piety, a few seconds later, I was dead. Never saw it coming. Had killed Piety a few times already. Is this desync?


Piety lightning can instagib you even at 79% resist and 3.5k health if you're unlucky with the damage rolls. Standing next to her isn't a good idea.


I guess that is possible. I wasn't really standing next to her.

Going to start leveling again later today.

Not exactly sure what to play though.


Yeah, I've got 5K hp on my Templar and I occasionally RIP'd to Piety when the rolls are really bad. Now I just bring a Topaz and pop it when the lightning starts, haven't had a problem since.

Trying to put together a culler, any good builds? Should I stick with the old dual sporker or is there something better out there? Don't really care what league its on either, I've got a decent amount of $$$ stashed on everything except HC.
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Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
December 21 2013 21:48 GMT
#12568
On December 21 2013 14:47 Varanice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 09:30 Pwere wrote:
It depends on your class. If you have leap slam, some areas you'll jump from pack to pack, others you'll simply run/jump through. If you have ST, you'll kite in (almost?) all areas.
Ship Graveyard is the only place that I don't even think about engaging anything. But really, you should skip as long as you don't need the levels. I think the checkpoints look a bit like this:
+ Show Spoiler +
2 in Mud Flats.
4 before Ledge.
9 before Brutus.
11 by the end of Cove.
12 before Merveil
15 before Sins 1

Farm as little as possible as long as you don't get an XP penalty. Kill rare/blue packs, and juicy packs and you'll usually be fine. Then it's all about knowing dungeon layouts, tricks for your particular class, and what/when to craft.
Note: I suck at 2h races and haven't done regular races in a long time, but the idea stays the same.

Its not really a checkpoint but more like a minimum.

3 and 50% by ledge. (Usually get there between 3 and 50% and 4 and 50% depending on how trolly Submerged has been.)
I like to be 8 by brutus, but if you feel like you can take him you can do it at 7. (happens very rarely, but worth noting.)
11 by merveil so you can use sapphires. (I never actually hit the min though. Usually 12-13.)
15 before sins. (so you dont get massive xp penalties.)
I guess with OP Throw you can do that, but duelists need lvl 10 anyway for leap slam, which lets you jump down the ledges/skip firedog in prisoner's gate and save tons of time. Also, at lvl 9 you get the juicy dex + attack speed node for some much needed double strike DPS. Plus, you need lvl 8 for Longsword, 9 for axe, and 9 for strapped leather. Anyway, iirc, it's actually hard not to have lvl 9 by then.

But either way, anyone remotely new will have a hard time being "only" 12 by Merveil.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 21:48:47
December 21 2013 21:48 GMT
#12569
anyone know how Corrupting Blood damage is calculated?

20 stacks against a Blackguard Mage and my HP regen is enough to keep even

20 stacks against a Fire Golem and my HP is getting burned through in a few seconds

is it based off of mob HP?
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 21 2013 22:03 GMT
#12570
On December 22 2013 06:48 udgnim wrote:
anyone know how Corrupting Blood damage is calculated?

20 stacks against a Blackguard Mage and my HP regen is enough to keep even

20 stacks against a Fire Golem and my HP is getting burned through in a few seconds

is it based off of mob HP?


The mobs attack damage. That is why mages don't hurt at all.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
December 21 2013 23:29 GMT
#12571
The same holds true for things like Volatile mobs.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8699 Posts
December 22 2013 10:32 GMT
#12572
On December 22 2013 08:29 Gary Oak wrote:
The same holds true for things like Volatile mobs.


I thought volatile explosions scales with the hp pool?
HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
December 22 2013 11:41 GMT
#12573
I stopped playing like 6 month ago after dying to vaal on last difficulty. Typed the command to resync after dead, saw my body ported through half the room standing right next to him, should have become suspicous once he rose his melee arm when I thought I was standing at the other side of the room. Maybe it is teim to give this game another shot.
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
December 22 2013 14:05 GMT
#12574
On December 22 2013 20:41 HaRuHi wrote:
I stopped playing like 6 month ago after dying to vaal on last difficulty. Typed the command to resync after dead, saw my body ported through half the room standing right next to him, should have become suspicous once he rose his melee arm when I thought I was standing at the other side of the room. Maybe it is teim to give this game another shot.


lolwtf

dat desync
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3458 Posts
December 22 2013 14:51 GMT
#12575
I think I have a new hobby: sniping item with high value at a very low price on xyz. And I'm getting better at it too.

Recently, the main focus is on IIR stuff. You see, dps, arm, es, ev, +life, res, it's very intuitive. Ppl usually know that their item worth a lot if it has a combination of these in high roll. On the other hand, not many are familiar with MF.

I have sniped a 54 IIR amu for 2c and a 9 + 37 gold ring for 4alc ( which ofc can be blessed to 50+ IIR) so far. The amu can be resell for at least 1ex and the ring should be at least 15c, but I'm using them. A few more of these trade and I'm gonna be rich in no time muhaha

I'm a terrible person

Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
December 22 2013 15:08 GMT
#12576
On December 22 2013 23:51 vndestiny wrote:
I think I have a new hobby: sniping item with high value at a very low price on xyz. And I'm getting better at it too.

Recently, the main focus is on IIR stuff. You see, dps, arm, es, ev, +life, res, it's very intuitive. Ppl usually know that their item worth a lot if it has a combination of these in high roll. On the other hand, not many are familiar with MF.

I have sniped a 54 IIR amu for 2c and a 9 + 37 gold ring for 4alc ( which ofc can be blessed to 50+ IIR) so far. The amu can be resell for at least 1ex and the ring should be at least 15c, but I'm using them. A few more of these trade and I'm gonna be rich in no time muhaha

I'm a terrible person



Could be. On the other hand you might just be getting some profit out of all the hours spent watching the economy (trade chat). I've played a decent amount so far and still I'm mostly clueless when it comes to pricing items.
11 years and counting- TL #680
Butcherski
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland446 Posts
December 22 2013 15:54 GMT
#12577
All these deaths stories scare me a bit :O

Im running piety with 4k hp and 75 lightning res and never got close to dieing ( started at 70 now im 83 ) so you must be REALLY unlucky to get instagibbed. My guess would be lag/desync while standing in her lightning storm but /oos macro solves that problem for me I know for many ppl including me desync was the number one problem with this game, i probably would not be playing poe if i didnt find how to setup the macro. After some time using it you even start to recognize situtation where desync will occur and prevent them leading to even less desync. Disconnects are a different thing tho, nothing you can do if your provider/pc sucks :/
"Well Tasteless, i once met a three-toed sloth with good marauder control " - Artosis
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 15:59:06
December 22 2013 15:58 GMT
#12578
On December 22 2013 23:51 vndestiny wrote:
I think I have a new hobby: sniping item with high value at a very low price on xyz. And I'm getting better at it too.

Recently, the main focus is on IIR stuff. You see, dps, arm, es, ev, +life, res, it's very intuitive. Ppl usually know that their item worth a lot if it has a combination of these in high roll. On the other hand, not many are familiar with MF.

I have sniped a 54 IIR amu for 2c and a 9 + 37 gold ring for 4alc ( which ofc can be blessed to 50+ IIR) so far. The amu can be resell for at least 1ex and the ring should be at least 15c, but I'm using them. A few more of these trade and I'm gonna be rich in no time muhaha

I'm a terrible person


I've been doing this a lot recently. Weapons (especially physical ones) are usually very easy to price within one or two searches on poe.xyz.is then you just need to find one that you can buy for cheap enough. Especially more in regards to wands and daggers, people don't understand just how rare (and valueable) good rolls are on them since they can roll like 3 different ways. I think people assume wands are just for spellcasting. I've been researching jewelery a bit and I might start doing what you're doing soon too. lol.
So far I've gotten a 2H 410 dps for 4 chaos that I think I can sell for 2-3 ex. a wand that I payed 6 chaos for that I think I can get 2-5 ex for. another wand for a few chaos that I think I can get 1-2 ex for. Also sold a ring I payed 1 ex for, for 2 ex the other day.

This is why I always research my big ticket items before I sell them. lol
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HN_KrO
Profile Joined December 2013
United Kingdom9 Posts
December 22 2013 16:02 GMT
#12579
Still desync issues I see lol. Never had a HC death due to any server problems while playing, but boy o boy did I have some close ones :p
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8699 Posts
December 22 2013 16:15 GMT
#12580
On December 23 2013 00:54 Butcherski wrote:
All these deaths stories scare me a bit :O

Im running piety with 4k hp and 75 lightning res and never got close to dieing ( started at 70 now im 83 ) so you must be REALLY unlucky to get instagibbed. My guess would be lag/desync while standing in her lightning storm but /oos macro solves that problem for me I know for many ppl including me desync was the number one problem with this game, i probably would not be playing poe if i didnt find how to setup the macro. After some time using it you even start to recognize situtation where desync will occur and prevent them leading to even less desync. Disconnects are a different thing tho, nothing you can do if your provider/pc sucks :/


Most of the times you die if you feel too save and don't play 100% carefully because of that. Happens if you have high life pool and high defenses and nothing does shit to you and then some wackamole combo insta-gimps you in 1 second.^^ Or desync, but often times that seem to be an excuse. I never died to desync and while I certainly desync quite often I learned how to deal with it. I think you can avoid 99% of desync-death's by playing accordingly.
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