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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 06 2013 17:57 GMT
#12141
Well, the domination map group are in this funny place where we have a couple of 77/78s and then nothing down to 72/3s. 73s and especially 72s are hardly worth running from an experience perspective at levels 87+, whereas 77/8 maps are fairly stressful and expensive to roll since at that point you can't really accept "OK" rolls and at the same time the bosses are really nuts (excepting shipyard gravicius lol) so you have to be very careful what mods you do (or else skip bosses which sucks).

I'd be very content just running 74/75s pretty much all day but they always drop either like 71s or nothing lol.

PS: the most valuable uniques I've found are geofri's crest and an aursieze, which is pretty depressing considering the sheer number of 76/77/78 maps we've done as a group, and balsam has divination distillate, like 150ish rarity and culls with a rarity gem too.

PPS I don't think any GGG members actually run end-game maps with any sort of regularity. If they did, Gravicius would be 6x harder (and Mageara might be a tad easier holy shit she's rough for a 76 map lol). etc.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 18:14:20
December 06 2013 18:10 GMT
#12142
Well, even the lower map bosses aren't balanced at all. Compare Dunes/Orchard/Dungeon with Grotto for example. All of those new bosses are really insane in comparison. Museum is ridiculous if you have no good chaos res. Villa I had no problems, but others seem to have (probably cuz of low armor as that dude spams bear trap a lot lol).

Labyrinth or what it's called has my vote for the worst map. It has Devourers (which are hard to find and deal crazy damage sometimes), it takes ages to clear and the boss is no snack either, you really need to destroy corpses. Better don't run that map with Temp Chains or the ice.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 06 2013 18:17 GMT
#12143
Devourers aren't inherent in labyrinth anymore but I still just 3:1 those lol. It takes literally forever to clear and god forbid if you don't have leapslam/lightning warp. What a terrible tileset.

Dark forest has devourers inherent (Ewww ) but if you roll an inhabitation prefix its not a bad map.
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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
December 06 2013 18:21 GMT
#12144
On December 07 2013 03:10 HolydaKing wrote:
Well, even the lower map bosses aren't balanced at all. Compare Dunes/Orchard/Dungeon with Grotto for example. All of those new bosses are really insane in comparison. Museum is ridiculous if you have no good chaos res. Villa I had no problems, but others seem to have (probably cuz of low armor as that dude spams bear trap a lot lol).

Labyrinth or what it's called has my vote for the worst map. It has Devourers (which are hard to find and deal crazy damage sometimes), it takes ages to clear and the boss is no snack either, you really need to destroy corpses. Better don't run that map with Temp Chains or the ice.

That map is absolutely terrible, I 2nd this. it takes me 4x longer to clear and I usually get like half the experience compared to other 72 maps, I always trade them up 3:1 now.
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3458 Posts
December 06 2013 18:38 GMT
#12145
On December 07 2013 01:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
I *think* the crit chance on infernal blow is referring to the explosion (as in, the chance of the explosion to crit) not the chance of the attack to crit (which is consistent with the numbers that you are seeing).

I can't guarantee that though.

In which case yes getting 1h crit nodes will increase your crit chance when using infernal blow, but it won't increase the chance of the corpse explode effect to crit (not that you care).


This is correct. The explosion part IB crit chance does not show on anything, has a base of 7%, and that cannot be modified by spell crit (not a spell), general weapon crit, ie. staff crit node ( not part of the attack by the weapon ). I'm pretty sure that it could only be affect by global crit modifier but again I could be wrong.

On December 06 2013 22:52 Tennet wrote:
I just had an idea, what if (if I still went with crit) I went AoF and used ice spear and cold to fire to have the higher crit chance on the skill + gems to boost fire damage/ignite/prolif. It might not be worth the extra required gem (c2f) but seems like a possibly effective idea for crit ignite.


This is very plausible build, and I hope that someone is trying that out. However it has some problems though.
For this to work you need to have crazy high crit multiplier for the burn to do ok damage, especially now with the base burn nerf (with 300% your burn will do 100% of the normal damage per sec, not that high ). Since you would use Ele Proliferation, and only a single ice spear is need to burn, lmp/gmp is completely not needed, which is nice. But now you suffer the lack of supported gem damage. Ice spear + Cold to Fire + Ele poliferation + increase burn dmg + increase crit dmg and there goes your 5L. Not sure the dmg is up to par. Final thing is the lack of sweet node to abuse the dmg conversion.

On December 07 2013 03:10 HolydaKing wrote:
Well, even the lower map bosses aren't balanced at all. Compare Dunes/Orchard/Dungeon with Grotto for example. All of those new bosses are really insane in comparison. Museum is ridiculous if you have no good chaos res. Villa I had no problems, but others seem to have (probably cuz of low armor as that dude spams bear trap a lot lol).


This man speaks the truth.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
December 06 2013 19:25 GMT
#12146
On December 07 2013 03:38 vndestiny wrote:


Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 22:52 Tennet wrote:
I just had an idea, what if (if I still went with crit) I went AoF and used ice spear and cold to fire to have the higher crit chance on the skill + gems to boost fire damage/ignite/prolif. It might not be worth the extra required gem (c2f) but seems like a possibly effective idea for crit ignite.


This is very plausible build, and I hope that someone is trying that out. However it has some problems though.
For this to work you need to have crazy high crit multiplier for the burn to do ok damage, especially now with the base burn nerf (with 300% your burn will do 100% of the normal damage per sec, not that high ). Since you would use Ele Proliferation, and only a single ice spear is need to burn, lmp/gmp is completely not needed, which is nice. But now you suffer the lack of supported gem damage. Ice spear + Cold to Fire + Ele poliferation + increase burn dmg + increase crit dmg and there goes your 5L. Not sure the dmg is up to par. Final thing is the lack of sweet node to abuse the dmg conversion.


Exactly why I'm using fireball to do this. The ice spear idea is neat but just isn't practical. I think it would work better in a support build as a mass freeze instead of converting to fire. I am not too interested in pursuing creating a build around converted ice spear to mass burn, but if someone does try it I want to hear about it.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 06 2013 20:14 GMT
#12147
Hmm.... I've been thinking about playing a totem build or making my first freezing pulse char ever (aside from using it for leveling).

Would this Freezing Pulse build do enough damage? I could save a lot of points by not going IR + Mind over Matter (I haven't used the later ever, but it might be good with Eldritch Battery?), though that would mean big physical hits are going to be a pain. I'm also not sure if it is a good idea anyway, a lot of people say just go EK for better damage instead of FP.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 06 2013 20:22 GMT
#12148
I haven't played any endgame spellcaster builds so I can't really say. If you had like a taryn's you'd probably do damage lol.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 20:32:46
December 06 2013 20:24 GMT
#12149
On December 07 2013 05:22 Sn0_Man wrote:
I haven't played any endgame spellcaster builds so I can't really say. If you had like a taryn's you'd probably do damage lol.

Far, far away from one.

Having some items to yearn for is actually nice, but if the build isn't functioning well without them... not going to do it.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
December 06 2013 20:40 GMT
#12150
Searing touch isn't needed for my build, but it's really good for it.. so hopefully I can get my hands on one, or a GG staff.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 06 2013 20:41 GMT
#12151
My friend got a well rolled 5L searing touch for 3ex so hopefully that is achievable. The plus is that you can use searing touch from level 20 or whatever to make levelling a lot more attractive lol.
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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
December 06 2013 20:44 GMT
#12152
I have an 80% spell damage staff i'm using now. I'm too poor to afford anything at all since I haven't reached endgame and farmed etc.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
esk
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5 Posts
December 06 2013 21:03 GMT
#12153
On December 06 2013 19:08 Butcherski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 10:32 esk wrote:
Just died on my ranger with 5l really well rolled Lioneye's. No idea what is causing the problem but I keep getting mini-d/cs or packet loss IDK maybe someone can give me some insight into what happens.

http://www.twitch.tv/eskprodigy/c/3347990

Little clip that I recorded of the issue you can see my connection either drops or ping goes to 2k+ and I get a temp. packet loss? or disconnect I don't know what to call it. Streamed it to about 10 people and they all saw it so I wasn't lagging outside of just POE.



If i see it correctly its just the game freezing for 1-2 seconds right ? How often does it happen ? I had a similiart problem, used to only happen in online games ( d3/poe/csgo etc, ). After much googling nothing helped and i had to simply format my drives and install everything fresh. RIP

Some days it will be fine then all the sudden I will get the ping, its not the game itself freezing but my internet connection or something seems to drop or lag to POE only and nothing else. it lasts anywhere from 1-5 seconds and can happen repeatedly. Sucks during races also which I haven't been doing much of because of this
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 21:10:49
December 06 2013 21:09 GMT
#12154
On December 07 2013 06:03 esk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 19:08 Butcherski wrote:
On December 06 2013 10:32 esk wrote:
Just died on my ranger with 5l really well rolled Lioneye's. No idea what is causing the problem but I keep getting mini-d/cs or packet loss IDK maybe someone can give me some insight into what happens.

http://www.twitch.tv/eskprodigy/c/3347990

Little clip that I recorded of the issue you can see my connection either drops or ping goes to 2k+ and I get a temp. packet loss? or disconnect I don't know what to call it. Streamed it to about 10 people and they all saw it so I wasn't lagging outside of just POE.



If i see it correctly its just the game freezing for 1-2 seconds right ? How often does it happen ? I had a similiart problem, used to only happen in online games ( d3/poe/csgo etc, ). After much googling nothing helped and i had to simply format my drives and install everything fresh. RIP

Some days it will be fine then all the sudden I will get the ping, its not the game itself freezing but my internet connection or something seems to drop or lag to POE only and nothing else. it lasts anywhere from 1-5 seconds and can happen repeatedly. Sucks during races also which I haven't been doing much of because of this

Sounds like your internet if I had to guess. When you kinda disconnect but the game doesn't close, the game feels desync'd, except it never resyncs, even when you type /oos.
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Ganfei2
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
473 Posts
December 06 2013 21:52 GMT
#12155
I ahven't played POE since april when dual spork totem was the best. I have a level 87 templar with all his passive points returned and a 6L with old spork stuff -- crit, spark, fork, totem etc. If I reinstall Poe, what's the best MF build now? Can I do anything with my dual spork gear?
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 23:53:48
December 06 2013 23:51 GMT
#12156
Hey Sn0_Man,could you share some of your builds maybe?
I'm kinda of a noob and I'm interested in hearing about builds from people who know what they are talking about,a lot of those builds on poe sites are kinda sketchi to me anyway,a lot of times I'm not sure what a good build even looks like.
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ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 00:08:13
December 07 2013 00:06 GMT
#12157
First time I died to kraithlyn in a race. Pretty terrible considering I pretty much had a huge lead for first scion 100% and just got a rare poleaxe, but shit happens I guess. 25 min merveil wasted pretty much.

Used white weapons until lvl20 when I found an alch that I used on my poleaxe mid fight vs kraithlyn after killing the adds, but my trusty 10 quality woodsplitter refused to drop on the ground 3 times in a row since I kept pressing wrong button. So when it finally dropped I had almost no hp, and panic double tapped my large potion and used up all charges. So I was left with 2 charges of medium potion vs kraithlyn. He did the flicker strike so I kept missing and killed me with 1% hp or so, honestly didn't even see the hp bar. Could probably have autoattacked him to death but I guess sometimes you think "this can't possible go wrong".
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 07 2013 02:25 GMT
#12158
On December 07 2013 02:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well, the domination map group are in this funny place where we have a couple of 77/78s and then nothing down to 72/3s. 73s and especially 72s are hardly worth running from an experience perspective at levels 87+, whereas 77/8 maps are fairly stressful and expensive to roll since at that point you can't really accept "OK" rolls and at the same time the bosses are really nuts (excepting shipyard gravicius lol) so you have to be very careful what mods you do (or else skip bosses which sucks).

I'd be very content just running 74/75s pretty much all day but they always drop either like 71s or nothing lol.

PS: the most valuable uniques I've found are geofri's crest and an aursieze, which is pretty depressing considering the sheer number of 76/77/78 maps we've done as a group, and balsam has divination distillate, like 150ish rarity and culls with a rarity gem too.

PPS I don't think any GGG members actually run end-game maps with any sort of regularity. If they did, Gravicius would be 6x harder (and Mageara might be a tad easier holy shit she's rough for a 76 map lol). etc.

can't complain after today
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3458 Posts
December 07 2013 02:44 GMT
#12159
What did you get from today o.O.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 05:45:06
December 07 2013 05:43 GMT
#12160
On December 07 2013 09:06 ZoRoXo wrote:
First time I died to kraithlyn in a race. Pretty terrible considering I pretty much had a huge lead for first scion 100% and just got a rare poleaxe, but shit happens I guess. 25 min merveil wasted pretty much.

Used white weapons until lvl20 when I found an alch that I used on my poleaxe mid fight vs kraithlyn after killing the adds, but my trusty 10 quality woodsplitter refused to drop on the ground 3 times in a row since I kept pressing wrong button. So when it finally dropped I had almost no hp, and panic double tapped my large potion and used up all charges. So I was left with 2 charges of medium potion vs kraithlyn. He did the flicker strike so I kept missing and killed me with 1% hp or so, honestly didn't even see the hp bar. Could probably have autoattacked him to death but I guess sometimes you think "this can't possible go wrong".

LOL shit happens, I've never died to him but I managed to die to Alira in a race. Had such terrible equip that I went out of life potions and didnt want to log out, tried to outmicro her and failed. Haha.

Is his name actually Kraityn? Just checked it, always thought it's Kraitlyn. Haha
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