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Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 20:53:11
November 05 2013 20:47 GMT
#11161
On November 06 2013 05:25 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 05:23 Nocticate wrote:
On November 06 2013 01:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
The more dex you have the worse Iron reflexes is


wait, shit. Seriously?
I thought the dex gained EVA would go armor.
I think I'm trying to treat it too much like dota, I keep thinking that dex gives armor and IAS and damage instead of acc and eva.


It doesn't because the iron reflexes keystone says "Dexterity provides no bonus to evasion rating." Prior to the 1.0.0 patch it did not work like this.

and dota would be terrible if units had accuracy.

Huh. Does it work retroactively? Or would it have been better to not take Iron Reflexes until much later?
Also, how expensive is a Bringer of Rain? Is there any realistic chance that I'll get my hands on one ever?
Well I guess that might change in the future depending on what new lategame content GGG adds. At least BoR isn't drop restricted to high level maps like Shavronne's and something else--Kaom's Heart?--are.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 21:14:13
November 05 2013 21:13 GMT
#11162
If you do not have resolute technique (always hit, but never crit) but you have iron reflexes, dex isn't worthless since you will need some for accuracy so its fine.

If you have resolute and you have iron reflexes, dex is literally worthless to you, get what you need for gear/gem requirements but nothing more.

Buddy bought a bringer a few days ago for 8 exalts i think so 8-10 exalts i would say for BoR.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 05 2013 21:16 GMT
#11163
Shavronnes is Occultist Vestments so afaik it can drop in 62 zones and above? Or did they change that?

Bringer is a 67 base (Nightmare Bascinet) so thats harder to find (although it may be less rare iunno).
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Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 21:25:09
November 05 2013 21:24 GMT
#11164
On November 06 2013 06:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Shavronnes is Occultist Vestments so afaik it can drop in 62 zones and above? Or did they change that?

Bringer is a 67 base (Nightmare Bascinet) so thats harder to find (although it may be less rare iunno).

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/555479/page/15
they apparently did a change in 1.0.0 that moved some (unspecified) uniques to maps only. or maybe to high level areas, nothing is really specified.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 21:35:07
November 05 2013 21:34 GMT
#11165
Given that I have a legacy shav's and they (well worse versions of them) now only drop very rarely in high level maps I might be even richer than I already thought I was. It's obviously good for me, but makes me feel kinda bad for all the players who never got a legacy unique.

But then again, who cares about HC/Default.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
November 05 2013 22:38 GMT
#11166
On November 06 2013 06:34 SlixSC wrote:
Given that I have a legacy shav's and they (well worse versions of them) now only drop very rarely in high level maps I might be even richer than I already thought I was. It's obviously good for me, but makes me feel kinda bad for all the players who never got a legacy unique.

But then again, who cares about HC/Default.



I dropped one of the first shavrrones after the item was introduced and sold it on hardcore for 28 exalt. :D
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 22:45:39
November 05 2013 22:43 GMT
#11167
I hate everybody richer than me :X
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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 22:52:34
November 05 2013 22:51 GMT
#11168
On November 05 2013 22:19 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 19:43 RuskiPanda wrote:
Feel like im gonna have to shell out for one of those boss clearing services as I only got 900 life and 800 ES on Act 3 Cruel (lololol Dominus). Don't really want to invest too much into gear until closer to 60 either.. =(

Hmm, I am only mid Act 3 cruel and I got almost 2000 life and I didn't really go out of my way to pickup life passives and I don't have great items.


I only have like 2-3 life nodes cuz I'm playing witch and there aren't as many of those +str/+life nodes as there used to be towards shadow (at least I think there used to be more). Copying this summoner build at the moment and I've been pretty greedy about just going straight into ES nodes and skipping life by abusing public parties for hard zones/bosses. Oh well, I'll see how it goes.

Could probably use some +life on gear at the moment to tide me over but I'll probably get that after docks or library running up to 56-57 before tackling piety/dom.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
November 06 2013 01:02 GMT
#11169
Anyone know the prices of 70-71 maps on nemesis? I have a few I want to try to sell: bog, villa, strand, colonnade, dry woods, temple.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 02:38:38
November 06 2013 01:02 GMT
#11170
On November 06 2013 05:47 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 05:25 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On November 06 2013 05:23 Nocticate wrote:
On November 06 2013 01:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
The more dex you have the worse Iron reflexes is


wait, shit. Seriously?
I thought the dex gained EVA would go armor.
I think I'm trying to treat it too much like dota, I keep thinking that dex gives armor and IAS and damage instead of acc and eva.


It doesn't because the iron reflexes keystone says "Dexterity provides no bonus to evasion rating." Prior to the 1.0.0 patch it did not work like this.

and dota would be terrible if units had accuracy.

Huh. Does it work retroactively? Or would it have been better to not take Iron Reflexes until much later?
Also, how expensive is a Bringer of Rain? Is there any realistic chance that I'll get my hands on one ever?
Well I guess that might change in the future depending on what new lategame content GGG adds. At least BoR isn't drop restricted to high level maps like Shavronne's and something else--Kaom's Heart?--are.


What do you mean retroactively? The increased evasion rating from DEX is removed when you skill the node. I wouldn't put a point into iron reflexes until you can pick up unwavering stance as well personally, but it shouldn't be too detrimental to your character either way.

Stacking DEX should be an inferior use of skillpoints regardless; get enough to use your gems/gear and stop. If you're not using Resolute Techniques then most of your accuracy is probably going to come from %acc nodes and gear rather than acc from DEX nodes. If you are using RT then more DEX than your gems require is indeed pointless.

Also invited everyone who posted since yesterday. If I missed you somehow post your character name again please.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
November 06 2013 01:54 GMT
#11171
Math of Exile is the TL Guild?
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
November 06 2013 02:01 GMT
#11172
Having been out of the loop for a while, what changes have shifted the balance of power towards melee? What's so strong about it now?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 02:34:46
November 06 2013 02:27 GMT
#11173
On November 06 2013 10:54 Dknight wrote:
Math of Exile is the TL Guild?


Yes.

On November 06 2013 11:01 Ryalnos wrote:
Having been out of the loop for a while, what changes have shifted the balance of power towards melee? What's so strong about it now?


Spectral Throw I guess, but that is really only pseudo melee kinda like ground slam (although much more range). Double strike is used for single target so that is true melee though. The addition of the melee splash and multistrike support gems could be pointed out as the tipping point, but I'd be hesitant to just list out a bunch of melee buffs and say that melee is stronger now. Having a six melee party for your mapping team would be pretty dreadful.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 03:23:25
November 06 2013 03:22 GMT
#11174
On November 06 2013 11:27 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 10:54 Dknight wrote:
Math of Exile is the TL Guild?


Yes.

Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 11:01 Ryalnos wrote:
Having been out of the loop for a while, what changes have shifted the balance of power towards melee? What's so strong about it now?


Spectral Throw I guess, but that is really only pseudo melee kinda like ground slam (although much more range). Double strike is used for single target so that is true melee though. The addition of the melee splash and multistrike support gems could be pointed out as the tipping point, but I'd be hesitant to just list out a bunch of melee buffs and say that melee is stronger now. Having a six melee party for your mapping team would be pretty dreadful.




Melee is only good if you're playing solo; ranged is still king in terms of parties. A 6 party of ranged characters can just spam the living shit out of the screen so hard it's unbelievable.
Svetz
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia311 Posts
November 06 2013 03:43 GMT
#11175
As a pure summoner will I be ok in parties or will I end up desyncing everyone?

I've found I can't really solo maps past a certain point (I can get up to about level 70/71) as after that all I seem to get is lower level map drops. So I think I need to start playing in parties, but I'm not sure if I'll need to roll a new character or not.
When I grow up I want to be Harry Dresden ;(
Taguchi
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 04:27:34
November 06 2013 04:23 GMT
#11176
Map uniques data by Chris

those ilvl78 requirements~_~

edit: and a 250ms cooldown on CoDT, wonder if it's universal cd or applies to each instance of the gem separately
Great minds might think alike, but fastest hands rule the day~
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
November 06 2013 04:38 GMT
#11177
On November 06 2013 12:43 Svetz wrote:
As a pure summoner will I be ok in parties or will I end up desyncing everyone?

I've found I can't really solo maps past a certain point (I can get up to about level 70/71) as after that all I seem to get is lower level map drops. So I think I need to start playing in parties, but I'm not sure if I'll need to roll a new character or not.


My summoner did fine in onslaught league. I dont remember getting any complaints. Just avoid using some lag heavy spectres like the docks dog or solaris fire thingy.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 05:24:29
November 06 2013 05:18 GMT
#11178
On November 06 2013 13:23 Taguchi wrote:
Map uniques data by Chris

those ilvl78 requirements~_~

edit: and a 250ms cooldown on CoDT, wonder if it's universal cd or applies to each instance of the gem separately


I imagine that is to prevent the instagib with lightning thorns/reflect. Pretty hilarious interaction.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
trynet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States37 Posts
November 06 2013 05:49 GMT
#11179
I started playing hardcore immediately after 1.0 was released. My last 2 characters ripped in Sceptre of God in normal and to Normal Dominus, still kinda frustrated about the Dominus rip. I had 2k hp doing a high life marauder build that was just tearing through everything I encountered. First two phases were cake, barely had to pot versus either of them...and just didn't know what was happening while my HP was dropping like 500 per second from bleeding stacks on his last phase, I tried to portal out but was dead before I could click the portal.

Guess I should've taken a lesson from my nethack days and looked at spoilers first >.>
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
November 06 2013 05:50 GMT
#11180
I see people use the terms "c/o" and "b/o" frequently. What do they mean?
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