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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 15:45:25
November 05 2013 15:29 GMT
#11141
On November 05 2013 22:20 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 21:02 EchelonTee wrote:
On November 05 2013 20:51 Jetaap wrote:
Probably a stupid but why is chaos considered the best currency?

they dont have a vendor recipe (unlike fusings), are sufficiently rare (unlike alchs), and are sufficiently useful for crafting (unlike blesseds or GCPs). Plus they look cool

Last time I played PoE, Chaos did have a recipe. Did they remove it?


The chaos recipe got changed to require high item level items (60-74) so it is no longer worthwhile. Picking up two rings, an ammy, and a belt that isn't worth a chaos orb is pretty hard, especially this early in the league. You get chance orbs now for the low item level stuff.

I am talking about the double chaos recipe in this post.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
November 05 2013 15:35 GMT
#11142
On November 06 2013 00:05 Luiwtf wrote:
Oh, and I'd like to join the TL guild, I have no idea about how the guilds work, can I just leave my ingame name later when I make a new char or do I need to message someone ingame for an invite?

Me too wanna know plz :D.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
beberly
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States117 Posts
November 05 2013 15:36 GMT
#11143
On November 06 2013 00:29 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 22:20 -Archangel- wrote:
On November 05 2013 21:02 EchelonTee wrote:
On November 05 2013 20:51 Jetaap wrote:
Probably a stupid but why is chaos considered the best currency?

they dont have a vendor recipe (unlike fusings), are sufficiently rare (unlike alchs), and are sufficiently useful for crafting (unlike blesseds or GCPs). Plus they look cool

Last time I played PoE, Chaos did have a recipe. Did they remove it?


The chaos recipe got changed to require high item level items (60-74) so it is no longer worthwhile. Picking up two rings, an ammy, and a belt that isn't worth a chaos orb is pretty hard, especially this early in the league. You get chance orbs now for the low item level stuff.


I suspect this is what you're getting at with the bolded section, but especially in the non-HC leagues, over time won't lower-quality ilvl 60+ items become less valuable, since the quality of items over time tends to increase when there's no HC death removing them from the economy? If that's the case, eventually it may be more likely that you'll be able to collect a whole set of unsellable 60+ items, and at that point getting a chaos for the lot will seem like a good deal.

Having never really played before the release, this is just theory rather than any experience speaking. Does it seem to hold true as leagues age?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 15:43:10
November 05 2013 15:40 GMT
#11144
On November 06 2013 00:36 beberly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 00:29 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On November 05 2013 22:20 -Archangel- wrote:
On November 05 2013 21:02 EchelonTee wrote:
On November 05 2013 20:51 Jetaap wrote:
Probably a stupid but why is chaos considered the best currency?

they dont have a vendor recipe (unlike fusings), are sufficiently rare (unlike alchs), and are sufficiently useful for crafting (unlike blesseds or GCPs). Plus they look cool

Last time I played PoE, Chaos did have a recipe. Did they remove it?


The chaos recipe got changed to require high item level items (60-74) so it is no longer worthwhile. Picking up two rings, an ammy, and a belt that isn't worth a chaos orb is pretty hard, especially this early in the league. You get chance orbs now for the low item level stuff.


I suspect this is what you're getting at with the bolded section, but especially in the non-HC leagues, over time won't lower-quality ilvl 60+ items become less valuable, since the quality of items over time tends to increase when there's no HC death removing them from the economy? If that's the case, eventually it may be more likely that you'll be able to collect a whole set of unsellable 60+ items, and at that point getting a chaos for the lot will seem like a good deal.

Having never really played before the release, this is just theory rather than any experience speaking. Does it seem to hold true as leagues age?


It is worth holding onto a set just because you're going to get a bunch of crappy rolled rares eventually to complete a chaos orb. The real issue is leaving them unid for the double chaos. You used to be able to pick up a bunch of chaos just running through normal because any ilvl gear would work and the junk you find in normal isn't actually worth a lot so you could leave it unid and not care for double chaos.

This early in the league that mediocre ring you ID could easily be worth 10 chaos so you can't justify not IDing things. I don't think it'll ever be worthwhile to go for double chaos in the new leagues.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 19:13:01
November 05 2013 15:47 GMT
#11145
On November 06 2013 00:35 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 00:05 Luiwtf wrote:
Oh, and I'd like to join the TL guild, I have no idea about how the guilds work, can I just leave my ingame name later when I make a new char or do I need to message someone ingame for an invite?

Me too wanna know plz :D.


It is easiest to message an officer, but if you leave your character name I will go through an invite everyone this evening.

@rEvolutionTu is online now
apparently Evo's name is broken ^_^

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=250781&currentpage=523#10459
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
beberly
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States117 Posts
November 05 2013 15:47 GMT
#11146
On November 06 2013 00:40 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 00:36 beberly wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:29 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On November 05 2013 22:20 -Archangel- wrote:
On November 05 2013 21:02 EchelonTee wrote:
On November 05 2013 20:51 Jetaap wrote:
Probably a stupid but why is chaos considered the best currency?

they dont have a vendor recipe (unlike fusings), are sufficiently rare (unlike alchs), and are sufficiently useful for crafting (unlike blesseds or GCPs). Plus they look cool

Last time I played PoE, Chaos did have a recipe. Did they remove it?


The chaos recipe got changed to require high item level items (60-74) so it is no longer worthwhile. Picking up two rings, an ammy, and a belt that isn't worth a chaos orb is pretty hard, especially this early in the league. You get chance orbs now for the low item level stuff.


I suspect this is what you're getting at with the bolded section, but especially in the non-HC leagues, over time won't lower-quality ilvl 60+ items become less valuable, since the quality of items over time tends to increase when there's no HC death removing them from the economy? If that's the case, eventually it may be more likely that you'll be able to collect a whole set of unsellable 60+ items, and at that point getting a chaos for the lot will seem like a good deal.

Having never really played before the release, this is just theory rather than any experience speaking. Does it seem to hold true as leagues age?


It is worth holding onto a set just because you're going to get a bunch of crappy rolled rares eventually to complete a chaos orb. The real issue is leaving them unid for the double chaos. You used to be able to pick up a bunch of chaos just running through normal because any ilvl gear would work and the junk you find in normal isn't actually worth a lot so you could leave it unid and not care for double chaos.

This early in the league that mediocre ring you ID could easily be worth 10 chaos so you can't justify not IDing things. I don't think it'll ever be worthwhile to go for double chaos in the new leagues.


Yeah, if any ilvl items could be used, getting double chaos for all the garbage rares you find leveling alts would be fantastic. It's probably a good change, though, since such easy access to currency might be a little unhealthy for prices.
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
November 05 2013 15:59 GMT
#11147
Is it better to play nemesis or standard Hardcore for not very experienced player? I am a bit scared that i level to lets say 70-80 and then i die stupidly to some crazy mode nemesis monster without knowing it is coming. I fairly like standard hardcore so far, but i haven't gotten to end game stuff yet. I also died stupidly to Dominus with my lvl 59 char. I was sure i logged off in time, but still the character appeared in softcore.
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
November 05 2013 16:43 GMT
#11148
On November 06 2013 00:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 00:35 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:05 Luiwtf wrote:
Oh, and I'd like to join the TL guild, I have no idea about how the guilds work, can I just leave my ingame name later when I make a new char or do I need to message someone ingame for an invite?

Me too wanna know plz :D.


It is easiest to message an officer, but if you leave your character name I will go through an invite everyone this evening.

@rEvolutionTu is online now

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=250781&currentpage=523#10459

I have tried to msg the 4 gentleman but nobody was online and 2 names were shown as unknown.

My Char in Nemesis is "DontOneshotMeBra". Thx mate.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
November 05 2013 16:52 GMT
#11149
Domination, Endothermian. I'd love it if someone would add me.
Also I picked up my melee splash and life on hit gems yesterday and found a good chest that's RRG 3link for splash+life on hit+dual strike... holy shit. I have to try to die at this point I think.
On a side note I use up so much fucking mana, holy shit. I still have my starting int. Good thing I kill things fast enough that I refill my flasks constantly. I've gone mainly dexterity over str but I don't see a huge problem with that right now, especially since I've gone with Iron Reflexes so I'm pretty difficult to kill. I'll really have to invest into some health equipment soon because I'm just getting reducing returns on my armor.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 05 2013 16:56 GMT
#11150
The more dex you have the worse Iron reflexes is
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Luiwtf
Profile Joined January 2011
England217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 17:15:47
November 05 2013 17:12 GMT
#11151
On November 06 2013 00:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 00:35 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:05 Luiwtf wrote:
Oh, and I'd like to join the TL guild, I have no idea about how the guilds work, can I just leave my ingame name later when I make a new char or do I need to message someone ingame for an invite?

Me too wanna know plz :D.


It is easiest to message an officer, but if you leave your character name I will go through an invite everyone this evening.

@rEvolutionTu is online now

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=250781&currentpage=523#10459


It says that character doesn't exist .

Edit: My new char is called LuiAfkTheSecond .
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 19:12:06
November 05 2013 19:11 GMT
#11152
On November 06 2013 01:43 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 00:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:35 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:05 Luiwtf wrote:
Oh, and I'd like to join the TL guild, I have no idea about how the guilds work, can I just leave my ingame name later when I make a new char or do I need to message someone ingame for an invite?

Me too wanna know plz :D.


It is easiest to message an officer, but if you leave your character name I will go through an invite everyone this evening.

@rEvolutionTu is online now

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=250781&currentpage=523#10459

I have tried to msg the 4 gentleman but nobody was online and 2 names were shown as unknown.

My Char in Nemesis is "DontOneshotMeBra". Thx mate.


Which names don't work so I can fix them? It would be smarter to give you a character name of theirs instead of their account name I guess even though both should work.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
November 05 2013 19:46 GMT
#11153
On November 06 2013 04:11 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:43 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:35 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:05 Luiwtf wrote:
Oh, and I'd like to join the TL guild, I have no idea about how the guilds work, can I just leave my ingame name later when I make a new char or do I need to message someone ingame for an invite?

Me too wanna know plz :D.


It is easiest to message an officer, but if you leave your character name I will go through an invite everyone this evening.

@rEvolutionTu is online now

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=250781&currentpage=523#10459

I have tried to msg the 4 gentleman but nobody was online and 2 names were shown as unknown.

My Char in Nemesis is "DontOneshotMeBra". Thx mate.


Which names don't work so I can fix them? It would be smarter to give you a character name of theirs instead of their account name I guess even though both should work.

No account name seems to work at the moment, character names do. Not sure if you still receive messages on a different character if sent to one that's offline at the moment.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
November 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#11154
Sending messages to a character name that is offline but online on another works.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 05 2013 19:49 GMT
#11155
On November 06 2013 04:46 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 04:11 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On November 06 2013 01:43 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:35 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:05 Luiwtf wrote:
Oh, and I'd like to join the TL guild, I have no idea about how the guilds work, can I just leave my ingame name later when I make a new char or do I need to message someone ingame for an invite?

Me too wanna know plz :D.


It is easiest to message an officer, but if you leave your character name I will go through an invite everyone this evening.

@rEvolutionTu is online now

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=250781&currentpage=523#10459

I have tried to msg the 4 gentleman but nobody was online and 2 names were shown as unknown.

My Char in Nemesis is "DontOneshotMeBra". Thx mate.


Which names don't work so I can fix them? It would be smarter to give you a character name of theirs instead of their account name I guess even though both should work.

No account name seems to work at the moment, character names do. Not sure if you still receive messages on a different character if sent to one that's offline at the moment.


You do; it just gets confusing when some other name replies to you. I'm guessing some accounts work if you have a character named the same thing as your account.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
November 05 2013 19:52 GMT
#11156
This game is fun, i'm probably making the worst character ever but I wouldn't be as fun if i just followed a prebuildt guide
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
November 05 2013 20:01 GMT
#11157
On November 06 2013 04:52 Jetaap wrote:
This game is fun, i'm probably making the worst character ever but I wouldn't be as fun if i just followed a prebuildt guide

That's the spirit! Following guides is boring when you can learn on your own by trial and error.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
November 05 2013 20:23 GMT
#11158
On November 06 2013 01:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
The more dex you have the worse Iron reflexes is


wait, shit. Seriously?
I thought the dex gained EVA would go armor.
I think I'm trying to treat it too much like dota, I keep thinking that dex gives armor and IAS and damage instead of acc and eva.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 20:27:04
November 05 2013 20:25 GMT
#11159
On November 06 2013 05:23 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
The more dex you have the worse Iron reflexes is


wait, shit. Seriously?
I thought the dex gained EVA would go armor.
I think I'm trying to treat it too much like dota, I keep thinking that dex gives armor and IAS and damage instead of acc and eva.


It doesn't because the iron reflexes keystone says "Dexterity provides no bonus to evasion rating." Prior to the 1.0.0 patch it did not work like this.

and dota would be terrible if units had accuracy.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 05 2013 20:35 GMT
#11160
On November 06 2013 05:25 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
and dota would be terrible if units had accuracy.

LOL oh dear.

In other news my character is actually getting close to where I'd like him except I'm about 5-6 exalts in gear (mostly uniques) short...

1 or 2 more levels should be more than enough skill points (although I'll be tight on life) but I need THINGS

Maybe if I fix up my shop a bit or something
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