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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 04 2013 04:43 GMT
#11041
^I think Blitz has the right idea

I feel like this new tree has less HP nodes (not %hp nodes) compared to the old one...
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3456 Posts
November 04 2013 05:03 GMT
#11042
I think the Wiki is pretty clear.
So now the %armor also get add to the evasion, then armor + evasion = final armor. The double node like Leather and Steel does not exactly get to add in twice, so yeah.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-04 05:20:50
November 04 2013 05:18 GMT
#11043
Evasion isn't that good, but Arrow dodge (whatever it's called now) and Blind are really amazing. However, you don't need to stack evasion to benefit from blind, it's an independant roll, you only need a reliable way to apply it. You don't need to stack evasion that high to cap at 95% to dodge projectiles either.

So, there is really no reason to go max evasion, due to diminishing return, but that is basically what Acrobatic forces you to do.

Then there's reflect to consider, and the fact that stun causes desyncs... which is why most people end up with armor + Unwavering Stance.

If there was another notable behind Acrobatics that read something like "Immune to Stun, you lose All armor and energy shield", then a fair comparison would be interesting.

ps. Is there a spot left in the guild if I ever decide to start playing again?
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
November 04 2013 06:26 GMT
#11044
Does everyone else get pretty much constant lag even with very fast internet? Just shitty servers or do I have so issue?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
November 04 2013 06:57 GMT
#11045
You have some sort of issue; it was pretty laggy at start of Release but it's gotten a lot better as of late.

Pwere there's always a space for you <3
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
November 04 2013 07:02 GMT
#11046
On November 04 2013 15:26 sob3k wrote:
Does everyone else get pretty much constant lag even with very fast internet? Just shitty servers or do I have so issue?


It can get pretty laggy for me if I have a twitch stream open and I don't really have issues with that in other games but iunno.
Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
November 04 2013 08:07 GMT
#11047
Decided to pick up PoE again, and just as I reached pretty much as far as ive ever been into beginning of cruel, and getting really into it (just started using blood magic so my snail pace+ days of relying on mana pots were finally over) I got pulled into a wall by brutus, got stuck and died. If I were to start again not sure if id go nemesis or hardcore, my friends play on nemesis but I have no items there all my currency is on hardcore
Wat
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
November 04 2013 08:10 GMT
#11048
On November 04 2013 17:07 Earll wrote:
Decided to pick up PoE again, and just as I reached pretty much as far as ive ever been into beginning of cruel, and getting really into it (just started using blood magic so my snail pace+ days of relying on mana pots were finally over) I got pulled into a wall by brutus, got stuck and died. If I were to start again not sure if id go nemesis or hardcore, my friends play on nemesis but I have no items there all my currency is on hardcore


I usually just find a public party that's either doing that boss or leading up to it. They're usually disproportionately harder than the surrounding mobs so no point in beating your head against a wall trying to solo it (unless you're twinked, over leveled, etc.)
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
November 04 2013 09:11 GMT
#11049
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAACGc7KL68kzoDloLkvSduPZARGDxgQ4qv-eiDCUrIgsdBh0Zxb55uqj8nKPq3PrQMykq18ipN6-7GrpMnwzqpbhUguJM8LRzcm7V4DSzpzfoy0Uz_DY0tR1M1GYq-iq-nytN8g0VHr2xsC1BCbWwtgwHc9qMZtBEta6yK5CL0PL2zDpcGn6PvesKOjr43R5vsfdIsRiHA-TOnnwG8-KGSwQVbhMRUrt53_5Pn6pkrzqibLd-wVyuv65uNd-OuPmebXUklJ8bYC2F5aMEEjr8bRXuM


I call this build the "Mother of All Classes" (MAC) build. Intend to try to solo the game with it. Don't know how though. Maybe some totem shit.

I think it looks beatiful!
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10884 Posts
November 04 2013 10:09 GMT
#11050
On October 31 2013 03:06 Varanice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 02:49 Velr wrote:
Are there any decent...

melee-dagger-shadow-builds that work on HC whiteout any gear to start from (ideally dw, but i guess thats very wishfull thinking :p)?

Im not sure about DW but I think dagger/shield could work, I can throw you together a tree if you're still interested?


Late answer

I just kinda winged it but sadly died at lvl 35 towards the end of "normal" (some orange mob that casted lightning traps or at least it looked like it.. 3-4 hits... 1400 HP gone, "fuck", my lightning resist wasn't even that bad (~40% i think?). But well, never was in that area before and next time i'm gonna be more carefull .
I had no Problems up until there, only the General nearly got me (due to my glorious 3% fire resist :p)

I went for 1h Dagger/Crit with Double Strike and Spectral Throw, was fun to Play, DMG was ok due to an unique dagger that i used from lvl 20 onwards (but it felt a bit "dated" towards the end) .

Working on a Trapper atm but it feels kinda weird to play and pretty week vs strong "single" mobs, dunno if i stick to him.
ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
November 04 2013 10:21 GMT
#11051
On November 04 2013 19:09 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 03:06 Varanice wrote:
On October 31 2013 02:49 Velr wrote:
Are there any decent...

melee-dagger-shadow-builds that work on HC whiteout any gear to start from (ideally dw, but i guess thats very wishfull thinking :p)?

Im not sure about DW but I think dagger/shield could work, I can throw you together a tree if you're still interested?


Late answer

I just kinda winged it but sadly died at lvl 35 towards the end of "normal" (some orange mob that casted lightning traps or at least it looked like it.. 3-4 hits... 1400 HP gone, "fuck", my lightning resist wasn't even that bad (~40% i think?). But well, never was in that area before and next time i'm gonna be more carefull .
I had no Problems up until there, only the General nearly got me (due to my glorious 3% fire resist :p)

I went for 1h Dagger/Crit with Double Strike and Spectral Throw, was fun to Play, DMG was ok due to an unique dagger that i used from lvl 20 onwards (but it felt a bit "dated" towards the end) .

Working on a Trapper atm but it feels kinda weird to play and pretty week vs strong "single" mobs, dunno if i stick to him.

That's probably the multitrap boss you're referring to. Pretty sure he's always at the second floor in the scepter of god(lower part). He has the tendency to kill people since you don't really expect the damage. Even with 75 lightning res he's capable of shocking you, so you should avoid him if possible (stick to the walls, since he's in like the far end of the room). Actually aggored him on accident when I progressed there on normal since I used karui ward + faster projectiles and threw roughly 2 screens away :^)

There's a streamer called nugiyen who uses a dagger/shield version of the spectral throw, seems viable. Probably a lot cheaper as well since like 90% of the throwspecs are 2hand sword and 9% 2hand axe.
sprættemætute
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10884 Posts
November 04 2013 10:36 GMT
#11052
Yeah, it's kinda hard to avoid guys when you never saw them before ^^.
Well... I guess it's kinda normal progression when starting at 0 in HC... Every Char after just gets a bit easier .


Btw: Do slower/faster projectiles actually decrease/increase range?
buMf00d
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands194 Posts
November 04 2013 10:55 GMT
#11053
Thinking about picked this game up. Does anyone have a link or website which goes over the basics?
ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-04 11:00:44
November 04 2013 10:59 GMT
#11054
Yeah we all had those kind of deaths when we first started hc. I mean, I remember dying to rhoa boss in mud flats and green skeleton in rocky climb when I first started

Even though you should have all resists maxed, a good rule of thumb is to no matter what always put main priority on lightning. Usually vs both frost and fire you have time to log out in case of a emergency, but vs lightning you straight up die from shockstacks. This rule used to be worked around and you could farm "safe" places like docks without lightning res, but the odd chance of a lightning exile, not to mention the scary storm herald, you really should assume there's something that does lightning all the time.

And yes, slower/faster projectiles change the range. I think the extra long throw is really nice when you're leveling in outdoor areas like sarn, also helps when you oneshot stuff with the initial hit and don't need the extra hit, so you can quicksilver/leap slam into packs for the return damage on next mobs.

Endgame though, I really feel that the range is perfect the way it is. You have the sweetspot where you hit like 6 times or so somewhat at the end of the screen, and if you were to use slower for pseudo melee you're better of with double strike/heavy strike for raw dps
sprættemætute
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
November 04 2013 11:04 GMT
#11055
On November 04 2013 19:59 ZoRoXo wrote:
Yeah we all had those kind of deaths when we first started hc. I mean, I remember dying to rhoa boss in mud flats and green skeleton in rocky climb when I first started

Even though you should have all resists maxed, a good rule of thumb is to no matter what always put main priority on lightning. Usually vs both frost and fire you have time to log out in case of a emergency, but vs lightning you straight up die from shockstacks. This rule used to be worked around and you could farm "safe" places like docks without lightning res, but the odd chance of a lightning exile, not to mention the scary storm herald, you really should assume there's something that does lightning all the time.

And yes, slower/faster projectiles change the range. I think the extra long throw is really nice when you're leveling in outdoor areas like sarn, also helps when you oneshot stuff with the initial hit and don't need the extra hit, so you can quicksilver/leap slam into packs for the return damage on next mobs.

Endgame though, I really feel that the range is perfect the way it is. You have the sweetspot where you hit like 6 times or so somewhat at the end of the screen, and if you were to use slower for pseudo melee you're better of with double strike/heavy strike for raw dps


Storm heralds almost made me shit myself when I first ran into one T_T. WAs like boom 1000 lightning bolts outa nowhere and shock stacks up the wazoo. Not too bad with a topaz flask tho.
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
November 04 2013 11:35 GMT
#11056
Died yesterday in act 2 on cruel to a corrupted blood rare mob. Wanted to tp but was to slow. Damnit!
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
November 04 2013 12:08 GMT
#11057
On November 04 2013 14:18 Pwere wrote:
ps. Is there a spot left in the guild if I ever decide to start playing again?


Even if there isn't, the guild has points left to buy more slots =P But as far as I know there currently is space.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
November 04 2013 12:10 GMT
#11058
On November 04 2013 18:11 Ota Solgryn wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAACGc7KL68kzoDloLkvSduPZARGDxgQ4qv-eiDCUrIgsdBh0Zxb55uqj8nKPq3PrQMykq18ipN6-7GrpMnwzqpbhUguJM8LRzcm7V4DSzpzfoy0Uz_DY0tR1M1GYq-iq-nytN8g0VHr2xsC1BCbWwtgwHc9qMZtBEta6yK5CL0PL2zDpcGn6PvesKOjr43R5vsfdIsRiHA-TOnnwG8-KGSwQVbhMRUrt53_5Pn6pkrzqibLd-wVyuv65uNd-OuPmebXUklJ8bYC2F5aMEEjr8bRXuM


I call this build the "Mother of All Classes" (MAC) build. Intend to try to solo the game with it. Don't know how though. Maybe some totem shit.

I think it looks beatiful!

Scion is so hard to unlock =(
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
November 04 2013 12:41 GMT
#11059
is there a way to see ping ingame ?
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
November 04 2013 12:54 GMT
#11060
I think F1 shows you ping and fps and maybe one other thing..
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
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