EPTOn October 26 2013 01:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
What colour is Slower Projectiles?
What colour is Slower Projectiles?
Green.
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Blitzkrieg0
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Green. | ||
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Sn0_Man
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Blitzkrieg0
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Then again if you're using IR then that doesn't really matter, but I find it hard to justify now without the %DEX nodes. | ||
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Sn0_Man
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Apparently grace starts at 395 evasion and goes up roughly 80 per level (level 20 is 2016 evasion). Thats... rather a lot  Given that you need 150 dex to run grace lvl 20, and you get 2% evasion per 10 dex... yeah you can get some very real evasion numbers now I think. E: K u edited on me  Alright theorycraft time. 2k eva from grace 3k eva from gear (this is probably high but w/e) 3k eva from flask 8K evasion base Perfect "of iron skin" roll (except the evasion one) 300 dex = 60% 100% evasion from passives (this is EASY you can have way more) Hmmm this only rolls to about 29K evasion I don't think that is so high? what am I missing  | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
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There is also the problem that playing without being stun immune is super terror. I guess you can always just use eye, but ^_^ | ||
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Sn0_Man
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Dodge them stun hits :3 PS you'd get acrobatics with any build like this I think, so theres that. | ||
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Slardar
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Sn0_Man
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its 8k * 3.6 (base 1, 1 from flask, 1 from passives, .6 from dex). I'm pretty certain thats how the mod works. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
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On October 26 2013 02:53 Slardar wrote: Shouldn't it be 6k eva from flask? If you roll the 100% doubled mod? The 100% increase works on all your evasion; not just the flask. It is included in his figures. I think your 50k estimate is also way too high. I think some of the tankiest armor builds were floating around 30 or 40 armor pre-patch. There is also the endurance charge imba factor though. The damage reduction from endurance charges is a lot better when you're armor based than evasion. | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
I`m playing a Shadow right now, trying to make a dagger/dagger + lightning build. Pretty fun although I can tell it`s not exactly an optimal build at all. Just using mostly dexterity gems right now as I don`t have much use of lightning skills so far. I accidentally took the +30% evade skill before realizing it also halves my energy shield, which I had been planning on building up. Oh well. | ||
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Sn0_Man
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Next up, the cost. Why is faster projectiles (the far more desirable one) 110% but slower 140%? Also faster projectiles starts with more free projectile damage (although I'm assuming this scales slower, wiki data is incomplete). I mean, slower projectiles is definitely a gem I could see NOT levelling once you have your "ideal" projectile speed. Having the damage scale might not even be good Basically the gem feels incredibly narrow (Point Blank Spectral throw or literally useless). | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
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Sn0_Man
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The other thing is that the PB gem is fairly underwhelming (120% mana multi, lower attack speed until level 20, although quality can get u 15% damage, no other bonuses). And if you take the passive, what are you doing for AoE? | ||
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Monsen
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Blitzkrieg0
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On October 26 2013 03:31 Sn0_Man wrote: I was shocked by how far level 1 faster projectiles made spectral throw go. I'm worried how short it may be with slower proj, especially as it levels up. I guess you can't really know without trying though. The other thing is that the PB gem is fairly underwhelming (120% mana multi, lower attack speed until level 20, although quality can get u 15% damage, no other bonuses). And if you take the passive, what are you doing for AoE? Well the distance for Point Blank actually resets when the weapon turns around so it wouldn't be that bad. I don't plan on using increased projectile speed with my AoE anyway though because it already goes a full screen. I don't see why I would want it to go even farther when it does more damage when it comes back ^_^ Right now I'm using Heavy Strike for single target which feels really underwhelming and ground slam isn't really a single target skill. Does AoE damage ^_^ | ||
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Sn0_Man
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On October 26 2013 03:55 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Right now I'm using Heavy Strike for single target which feels really underwhelming. Same, and same lol. On October 26 2013 03:55 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Well the distance for Point Blank actually resets when the weapon turns around so it wouldn't be that bad. I don't plan on using increased projectile speed with my AoE anyway though because it already goes a full screen. I don't see why I would want it to go even farther when it does more damage when it comes back ^_^ I've heard that PB resets when the proj turns around but I'm assuming it just looks at YOUR position again not the position of the projectile? So if you move in closer then the returning hit would do a lot. I wasn't recommending increased proj speed for AoE I was merely saying that with PB passive I'm not sure that the standard proj speed will do much damage at the "sweet spot" aka right about max range. Probably needs a lot of testing. I forget how far stuff has to be for PB to suck. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
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Sn0_Man
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On October 26 2013 04:03 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: It should be the location where it turns around. It has to do with the origin of the attack and when the projectile turns around it creates a new origin point. Source? I mean, It certainly isn't impossible and that would be nutso good but I assumed that isn't how it would work. I've never heard anything conclusive either way just that "it resets". Not trying to call you a liar just curious Dammit I don't wanna go all the way to point blank | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
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On October 26 2013 04:05 Sn0_Man wrote: Source? I mean, It certainly isn't impossible and that would be nutso good but I assumed that isn't how it would work. I've never heard anything conclusive either way just that "it resets". Not trying to call you a liar just curious Dammit I don't wanna go all the way to point blank | ||
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