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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 26 2013 01:29 GMT
#10621
On October 26 2013 10:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:07 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:05 ticklishmusic wrote:
It just means that you spend hp instead of mana, so be careful


What about auras then. Do I reserve a % of my health?


Yes.


ouchie...
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
October 26 2013 01:59 GMT
#10622
On October 26 2013 10:29 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:07 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:05 ticklishmusic wrote:
It just means that you spend hp instead of mana, so be careful


What about auras then. Do I reserve a % of my health?


Yes.


ouchie...

It's actually typically how you achieve "low life" then you just go ES and avoid chaos damage zones. I think viper strike or w/e is the only nemesis mod that does chaos damage.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 26 2013 02:03 GMT
#10623
On October 26 2013 10:59 Nibbler89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:29 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:07 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:05 ticklishmusic wrote:
It just means that you spend hp instead of mana, so be careful


What about auras then. Do I reserve a % of my health?


Yes.


ouchie...

It's actually typically how you achieve "low life" then you just go ES and avoid chaos damage zones. I think viper strike or w/e is the only nemesis mod that does chaos damage.


So I am guessing if you can have both Blood Magic and Chaos Inoculation you can run as many Auras as you like (but pretty much can't do anything else)?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 26 2013 03:04 GMT
#10624
Do nodes that give "increased physical damage with melee weapons" affect spectral throw? I get melee physical nodes don't, but these ones confuse me and seem like they could go either way.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 05:18:39
October 26 2013 03:16 GMT
#10625
On October 26 2013 12:04 ticklishmusic wrote:
Do nodes that give "increased physical damage with melee weapons" affect spectral throw? I get melee physical nodes don't, but these ones confuse me and seem like they could go either way.


It only works with melee weapons in fact. I was very disappointed to find out that I couldn't spectral throw a bow

Spectral throw creates a projectile based upon your weapon's damage so anything affecting the melee weapon itself works. Anything that specifies a melee attack does not work with spectral throw. Melee physical damage is a melee attack so it doesn't work. Heart of the arena increases melee damage range so it doesn't do anything for spectral throw. Increasing the physical damage of your melee weapon does work.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 04:22:39
October 26 2013 03:48 GMT
#10626
On October 26 2013 12:04 ticklishmusic wrote:
Do nodes that give "increased physical damage with melee weapons" affect spectral throw? I get melee physical nodes don't, but these ones confuse me and seem like they could go either way.


No. Tested this...

Sorry misread. Yes, if the node gives damage to, say, swords and you use swords for Spectral Throw you do get extra DPS. Also works for 2H weapon damage nodes. I assume it works for 1H weapon damage nodes too.

It only does not work with nodes that affects MELEE DAMAGE... because it's classified as projectile :S

I wonder if Spectral Throw works with Fork?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
October 26 2013 04:29 GMT
#10627
No, because Spectral Throw has pierce, and pierce has priority over fork and chain.

IIRC, the priority is Pierce > Fork > Chain.
Shinbi
Profile Joined December 2009
338 Posts
October 26 2013 04:59 GMT
#10628
On October 26 2013 11:03 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:59 Nibbler89 wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:29 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:07 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:05 ticklishmusic wrote:
It just means that you spend hp instead of mana, so be careful


What about auras then. Do I reserve a % of my health?


Yes.


ouchie...

It's actually typically how you achieve "low life" then you just go ES and avoid chaos damage zones. I think viper strike or w/e is the only nemesis mod that does chaos damage.


So I am guessing if you can have both Blood Magic and Chaos Inoculation you can run as many Auras as you like (but pretty much can't do anything else)?



If you have Blood Magic and CI, you won't be able to cast auras.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
October 26 2013 09:25 GMT
#10629
I just realised they buffed Ungil's Gauche massively. It was already one of the best uniques for LLD but now it's probably insane. I'm going to be making a dual striker tomorrow to exploit it. Anyone got a high Q% dual strike gem for sale on SC?
www.twitch.tv/varanice
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
October 26 2013 10:17 GMT
#10630
I have 3 small questions:

How are elemental attack builds in 1.0? Is ele Cleave just a leveling thing now? What about elemental bow builds?

Did Spectral Throw make bows obsolete?

EK vs FP, what is the better build to start a new Nemesis char?
Finality
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 12:04:54
October 26 2013 12:02 GMT
#10631
On October 26 2013 19:17 akatama wrote:
I have 3 small questions:

How are elemental attack builds in 1.0? Is ele Cleave just a leveling thing now? What about elemental bow builds?

Did Spectral Throw make bows obsolete?

EK vs FP, what is the better build to start a new Nemesis char?


Elemental builds might be weaker, since it's pretty difficult if not outright not possible to run wrath + anger + a defensive aura now, whereas before for example with a LA character with blood magic keystone you could run wrath + anger + grace for a very little amount of health.

The damage on the auras is improved though, so maybe you won't need to run both. Elemental cleave is probably waaaay weaker. I played a physical cleaver and after the patch I've just changed him up into a double strike + melee splash build, cleave's damage reduction is apparantly multiplicative now and the penalty is applied to elemental damage as well.

Spectral throw is a very interesting skill, the damage on it is pretty nice and it can hit mobs multiple times and it's just really fun to mess around with. I wouldn't say it would make bows obsolete simply because it isn't really similar to rain of arrows which only bows can use, and while bows + 2 handed weapons now can get higher tier damage affixes, you still can't use quivers unless you are using a bow.

For starting a new nemesis character, I just kinda winged it and did whatever, I was leveling a double strike multistrike scion since I got a quality double strike and a multistrike drop, but died to dominus since I tried fighting him solo and blind. Big mistake, one of his moves can really catch you off guard and it killed me. Spectral throw + LMP + decent 2 handed weapon seems really good for leveling at the moment though; the damage is pretty good and it's fairly safe.

With regards to EK vs FP, I honestly would go FP if you are planning on making a freeze pulse character and not just using FP to level.

If you level a Scion you can get
-LMP from normal weaver,
-faster projectiles from normal gravicius,
-faster casting from cruel weaver,
-mana leech from cruel gravicius,
-and life leech from cruel hailrake.
-added chaos damage from cruel library quest
-GMP from merciless library quest

The library quests in each difficulty pretty much made it so that the only gems that are drop-only now are portal, empower, reduced duration, and slower projectiles.
Looks like their efforts... were in Vayne. (*sunglasses* YEAAAAAAAAA)
ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 12:53:47
October 26 2013 12:52 GMT
#10632
On October 26 2013 19:17 akatama wrote:
I have 3 small questions:

How are elemental attack builds in 1.0? Is ele Cleave just a leveling thing now? What about elemental bow builds?

Did Spectral Throw make bows obsolete?

EK vs FP, what is the better build to start a new Nemesis char?

ele cleave is pretty much garbage now. Played it on nemesis at lvl60 in fellshrine. 2.6k dps with cleave, WED, Faster attacks, conc effect. 3k life, strugging with blue packs. Pretty disappointing. Pre-patch you got almost 2k dps for free trough the 2 inner forced aura if you have fast weapons. Now you lost a lot + can only run 1 damage aura since you need purity when you hit merciless. I guess eventually if you reach endgame a good physical corsair with elemental rolls can make avatar of fire + lava lash decent, but reaching that point seems impossible atm. So I decided to just jump on the op throwing sword skill train.

I haven't played FP in the new patch, if anything it just got buffed a decent amount with the scion nodes. And FP has always been very solid, but nothing amazing for leveling.

Have no opinion on EK since I've never played it much.
sprættemætute
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
October 26 2013 16:37 GMT
#10633
Downloading now, at ~60 mb/s it should take long.

Any suggestions to make the start as smooth as possible?
Is there an "easy" class that can finish normal difficulty without too much of a problem?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 16:50:14
October 26 2013 16:48 GMT
#10634
Marauder and templar go through normal the easiest I'd say, basically grab a decent weapon a few damage nodes and then take all the life/armor you can find and just smash your way through.

I put this Scion build together, I left a few points open to spec into a certain weapon.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABAecDlgUtDjwUIBRNFHEWbxpVG8gdFCftKaUxnjIJMn41kjboNuk6UjrhOyg8LUCgQapDMUrITP9N404qUEdVxlivWfNaUl4TYENgS2EhZKNmnmqTbEZuPW6qcmxyqXTtd2J4DXrvfNmDCYTvh2qI8Y9GkFWbXZ65n8uiAKZXpzComqloqW6sWayqr2y18rZBvqfAD8AaxPbFis9l0NDSTdXt42rnY_Af8kXyl_Pd9zL3vvjr-tL-Cv6P
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Duka
Profile Joined September 2012
United States36 Posts
October 26 2013 16:49 GMT
#10635
On October 27 2013 01:37 SixStrings wrote:
Downloading now, at ~60 mb/s it should take long.

Any suggestions to make the start as smooth as possible?
Is there an "easy" class that can finish normal difficulty without too much of a problem?

I'd say a bow ranger is pretty easy to build. Equip the best bows/quivers you can find, use rain of arrows, get some bow damage and focus on life on the tree and you'll cruise through normal until the very end of it. Get the Iron Reflexes keystone near the Duelist.

The very end of Act 3 will probably pose some issue, but only because it poses an issue for nearly all builds. Also: make sure you play in one of the new leagues, preferably Domination so you don't get booted to Standard when you die. A lot more players are playing in them than the Standard/Hardcore leagues.
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
October 26 2013 17:01 GMT
#10636
by request
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAAecFLQbuEPAS4RjbGlUhYCP2Jd8ppTGeMn40NTWSNug6UjrhQKBGaUd-Sn1KyE3jTipW-livWkhaUluvYEthIWMXZKNlTWegbqp07XTxeA1673z1hNmE74dqh3aI8YoikAqQbJdwm12euZ_LpleomqluqZSrxaxZr6K18sCmwPPBB9RS137dDedj6wnuDu_w8kXyl_yJ_MX-Cv6P
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
October 26 2013 17:45 GMT
#10637
Haven't read into/played much of this game...my friend was super into it and I got dragged along, having a lot of fun.

First time I looked at that passive tree was a little overwhelming haha.

I'm trying to build a duelist similar to the monks from Diablo 3, loved that class...didn't care for the game at all, but PoE is proving to be MUCH more enjoyable and at this rate will definitely warrant a few playthroughs...

working on a blood magic/LA build based around Reave, then maybe whirlwind once I get it. It's been fun so far! We'll see how it works in the later stages.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
October 26 2013 19:20 GMT
#10638
Could anybody be so kind and tell me what a reduced mana gem is worth and also what 12q skeleton gem is worth?
Thanks
Set it ablaze!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 26 2013 19:36 GMT
#10639
I've been selling reduced mana for 2.5-3 chaos on Nemesis.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 19:38:53
October 26 2013 19:37 GMT
#10640
Holy shiiiiit. Cast on damage taken is so OP lol. I bet it's gonna be nerfed next patch. I'm lvl 70 now and made the Merciless Archives quest which has it as reward (omg the rewards there are the coolest drop only gems!).

Cast on damage taken + Molten Shell + Enduring Cry + Decoy Totem and you can finally use all the "annoying" skills without annoyance, lol. Pretty much OP if you ask me, you never have to cast anything anymore.

I think with that I totally need to pick more Endurance Charges... ^^
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