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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 24 2013 18:18 GMT
#10521
Explosive arrow is traditionally a blood-magic build right?
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 18:37:15
October 24 2013 18:36 GMT
#10522
I think it uses the support gem rather than the passive ability, but yes. A quick google search brings up a CI variant as well

I wonder if Spectral Throw marauder is a good idea or not ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 24 2013 18:37 GMT
#10523
On October 25 2013 03:36 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I think it uses the support gem rather than the passive ability, but yes. A quick google search brings up a CI variant as well

I wonder if Spectral Throw marauder is a good idea or not ^_^


I feel like it would be since you want a 2H for spectral throw.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 24 2013 18:40 GMT
#10524
The problem with 2h marauder spectral throw is that you don't benefit at all from "melee physical" damage only from "projectile" damage which isn't easily available. Well, and from all that "2h" damage and the weapon specific ones, those work.

I'm sure theres a build for it somewhere though.
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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
October 24 2013 18:41 GMT
#10525
so its recommended to use resolute technique with spectral throw?
yo
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 24 2013 18:48 GMT
#10526
On October 25 2013 03:41 Killmouse wrote:
so its recommended to use resolute technique with spectral throw?

Well if you are doing a kripp sword throw build (ranger or scion) with a billion Dex, no. If you are doing a marauder Mace/Axe throw without any real access to Dex/accuracy, yes. I mean there are a few accuraccy nodes in the marauder tree but they aren't worth the bother IMO.

Iron grip is kinda a must though. Its really really good if you are near it I think.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 19:34:54
October 24 2013 18:52 GMT
#10527
Here is what I have so far

base WED build

6 Endurance because endurance charges are badass (took iron grip because I am assuming Spectral Throw at this point). The question becomes if I want to go frenzy single target and pick up all those charges as well or if I want to do something else I guess. Alternately, I could use some other form of weapon damage. Right now I'm playing Frenzy/Cleave, but I don't expect to cleave late game so I haven't picked up any weapon specific nodes.

I don't think Frenzy is gonna be possible. Also probably need some form of mana management but I really don't want to take BM

maybe
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 19:49:46
October 24 2013 19:48 GMT
#10528
On October 25 2013 03:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 03:41 Killmouse wrote:
so its recommended to use resolute technique with spectral throw?

Well if you are doing a kripp sword throw build (ranger or scion) with a billion Dex, no. If you are doing a marauder Mace/Axe throw without any real access to Dex/accuracy, yes. I mean there are a few accuraccy nodes in the marauder tree but they aren't worth the bother IMO.

Iron grip is kinda a must though. Its really really good if you are near it I think.


Yeah, iron grip is generally going to be a weapon-specific keystone+ damage on your Spectral Throw. If you have 200 strength, it'll be 40% increased physical damage. Plus it puts you near the life leech keystone and the two adjacent amazing life nodes.

Ran into my first guaranteed-unique mob in Nemesis. Gave me Doedre's Tenure...at least I got a Perandus Blazon and the trap boots off of random mobs.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 24 2013 19:51 GMT
#10529
On October 25 2013 03:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 03:41 Killmouse wrote:
so its recommended to use resolute technique with spectral throw?

Well if you are doing a kripp sword throw build (ranger or scion) with a billion Dex, no. If you are doing a marauder Mace/Axe throw without any real access to Dex/accuracy, yes. I mean there are a few accuraccy nodes in the marauder tree but they aren't worth the bother IMO.

Iron grip is kinda a must though. Its really really good if you are near it I think.




Boo kripp totally stole my ideas
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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 21:40:32
October 24 2013 21:10 GMT
#10530
On October 25 2013 03:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 03:41 Killmouse wrote:
so its recommended to use resolute technique with spectral throw?

Well if you are doing a kripp sword throw build (ranger or scion) with a billion Dex, no. If you are doing a marauder Mace/Axe throw without any real access to Dex/accuracy, yes. I mean there are a few accuraccy nodes in the marauder tree but they aren't worth the bother IMO.

Iron grip is kinda a must though. Its really really good if you are near it I think.



My Templar Spectral shock build
this leaves me the option to go for iron grip,

without iron grip i would do this

more life, 10% more wed, +1 more endurance charge


trying to do this atm spectral throw templar with shock Wed,

i try to get eldrich since i want to go for clarity+ 2 auras(purity+ wrath) build ,or fuck eldrich and go for 16%reduced mana reservation node?

dont know if i should get iron grip since i try to do dual ele weapon
also is 2 curse useful?
shall i get unwavering stance?
do i have enough mana regen in endgame that i dont need shaper node?
shall i get another endurace charge instead of shaper or double curse?
yo
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 22:18:19
October 24 2013 22:17 GMT
#10531
Respect to everyone who kills Dominus (Solo) as a Melee and doesn't die on Cruel... oh god I died like 5 times. Though I'm sure I can reduce that number and my weapon wasn't really good, but my defense should've been enough (~2,6k Life, 40% dmg reduction and capped resists). + Show Spoiler +
Mostly the Bloodrain stage was crazy, so many adds and there didn't always seem to be that glyph for invulnerability to Bloodrain so I died a few times searching it. >_<


Also those leaping frogs are fucking annoying and strong, specially with Auras.
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
October 24 2013 22:30 GMT
#10532
I'm starting out PoE and my experience is limited to a lvl 30 ranger I made 1 year ago so I was wondering if someone could help me out with a few questions.

I am playing a marauder on hardcore and am planning on using 1 hand + shield, would getting unwavering stance make perfect sense for me then since i plan to reduce most damage as opposed to dodge it? Also nodes such as "heart of the gladiator" which give +30 to maximum life, are they bad? + 30 max life seems pretty bad for scaling or does it work differently?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 24 2013 22:33 GMT
#10533
On October 25 2013 07:30 Scrandom wrote:
I'm starting out PoE and my experience is limited to a lvl 30 ranger I made 1 year ago so I was wondering if someone could help me out with a few questions.

I am playing a marauder on hardcore and am planning on using 1 hand + shield, would getting unwavering stance make perfect sense for me then since i plan to reduce most damage as opposed to dodge it? Also nodes such as "heart of the gladiator" which give +30 to maximum life, are they bad? + 30 max life seems pretty bad for scaling or does it work differently?

Unwavering Stance is perfect and closeby. It'll make you unstunnable and sometimes when you block you get stunned.

30 max Life node is crazy good, it scales with other Life nodes. After this patch you usually get like 200% Life or more in builds, specially for Melee builds. So that'll make close to 100 Life or more.
zdfgucker
Profile Joined August 2011
China594 Posts
October 24 2013 22:41 GMT
#10534
This is nuts. Some people are mapping already and beyond level 60. I couldn't do that if you gave me meginords and 1000% facebreakers yesterday including tabula rasa and a 6L inf blow setup, lol.

How did you guys level so fast? I play templar right now and want to be a caster, so grabbing marauder life nodes is not viable.. which means low hp for me.. T_T
fLDm
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 22:49:32
October 24 2013 22:42 GMT
#10535
On October 25 2013 07:41 zdfgucker wrote:
This is nuts. Some people are mapping already and beyond level 60. I couldn't do that if you gave me meginords and 1000% facebreakers yesterday including tabula rasa and a 6L inf blow setup, lol.

How did you guys level so fast? I play templar right now and want to be a caster, so grabbing marauder life nodes is not viable.. which means low hp for me.. T_T

I'm 55 and just started Merciless, but playing Domination. And... Well, you just gotta play A LOT, lol.

Was top20 for quite a while but then went Sleep. Back to 500th-ish after an no chance of catching up lol.
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 22:47:05
October 24 2013 22:46 GMT
#10536
On October 25 2013 07:33 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 07:30 Scrandom wrote:
I'm starting out PoE and my experience is limited to a lvl 30 ranger I made 1 year ago so I was wondering if someone could help me out with a few questions.

I am playing a marauder on hardcore and am planning on using 1 hand + shield, would getting unwavering stance make perfect sense for me then since i plan to reduce most damage as opposed to dodge it? Also nodes such as "heart of the gladiator" which give +30 to maximum life, are they bad? + 30 max life seems pretty bad for scaling or does it work differently?

Unwavering Stance is perfect and closeby. It'll make you unstunnable and sometimes when you block you get stunned.

30 max Life node is crazy good, it scales with other Life nodes. After this patch you usually get like 200% Life or more in builds, specially for Melee builds. So that'll make close to 100 Life or more.


Thank you for the answer, would you mind explaining if possible what it means for the life nodes to scale? If it says +30 max life do I actually get more than that? Do I get x more max life depending on what level I am?

Or am I just not knowing enough about how much end game max life is and 100 is actually a lot, highest I got was lvl 30 a year ago like I said.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 22:59:46
October 24 2013 22:51 GMT
#10537
On October 25 2013 07:46 Scrandom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 07:33 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 25 2013 07:30 Scrandom wrote:
I'm starting out PoE and my experience is limited to a lvl 30 ranger I made 1 year ago so I was wondering if someone could help me out with a few questions.

I am playing a marauder on hardcore and am planning on using 1 hand + shield, would getting unwavering stance make perfect sense for me then since i plan to reduce most damage as opposed to dodge it? Also nodes such as "heart of the gladiator" which give +30 to maximum life, are they bad? + 30 max life seems pretty bad for scaling or does it work differently?

Unwavering Stance is perfect and closeby. It'll make you unstunnable and sometimes when you block you get stunned.

30 max Life node is crazy good, it scales with other Life nodes. After this patch you usually get like 200% Life or more in builds, specially for Melee builds. So that'll make close to 100 Life or more.


Thank you for the answer, would you mind explaining if possible what it means for the life nodes to scale? If it says +30 max life do I actually get more than that? Do I get x more max life depending on what level I am?

Or am I just not knowing enough about how much end game max life is and 100 is actually a lot, highest I got was lvl 30 a year ago like I said.

Well you pick up other Life nodes which give for example 10% increased Life. The 30 maximum Life go to the base Life which gets increased by all the % Life nodes. So say you have 10% increased Life from nodes, then the 30 max Life note will actually give 33 Life.

And yes, 100 Life is a lot, max I've seen on the forum was a Facebreaker with Legacy items and only Life nodes, he made a char with 10000 Life. Usually you'll probably have around 4-5k Life as Melee with decent equip.


@Others: I've killed Dominus on Normal and got one Unique, and on Cruel two Uniques, is that normal?!
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
October 24 2013 23:11 GMT
#10538
On October 25 2013 07:51 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 07:46 Scrandom wrote:
On October 25 2013 07:33 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 25 2013 07:30 Scrandom wrote:
I'm starting out PoE and my experience is limited to a lvl 30 ranger I made 1 year ago so I was wondering if someone could help me out with a few questions.

I am playing a marauder on hardcore and am planning on using 1 hand + shield, would getting unwavering stance make perfect sense for me then since i plan to reduce most damage as opposed to dodge it? Also nodes such as "heart of the gladiator" which give +30 to maximum life, are they bad? + 30 max life seems pretty bad for scaling or does it work differently?

Unwavering Stance is perfect and closeby. It'll make you unstunnable and sometimes when you block you get stunned.

30 max Life node is crazy good, it scales with other Life nodes. After this patch you usually get like 200% Life or more in builds, specially for Melee builds. So that'll make close to 100 Life or more.


Thank you for the answer, would you mind explaining if possible what it means for the life nodes to scale? If it says +30 max life do I actually get more than that? Do I get x more max life depending on what level I am?

Or am I just not knowing enough about how much end game max life is and 100 is actually a lot, highest I got was lvl 30 a year ago like I said.

Well you pick up other Life nodes which give for example 10% increased Life. The 30 maximum Life go to the base Life which gets increased by all the % Life nodes. So say you have 10% increased Life from nodes, then the 30 max Life note will actually give 33 Life.

And yes, 100 Life is a lot, max I've seen on the forum was a Facebreaker with Legacy items and only Life nodes, he made a char with 10000 Life. Usually you'll probably have around 4-5k Life as Melee with decent equip.


@Others: I've killed Dominus on Normal and got one Unique, and on Cruel two Uniques, is that normal?!


All he dropped in Normal for me was a bunch of blues and some mediocre rare that I vendored. I think the unique drop rates in general are a lot higher without MF than they were before (in the new leagues, anyway).
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 23:49:37
October 24 2013 23:44 GMT
#10539
On October 25 2013 07:51 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 07:46 Scrandom wrote:
On October 25 2013 07:33 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 25 2013 07:30 Scrandom wrote:
I'm starting out PoE and my experience is limited to a lvl 30 ranger I made 1 year ago so I was wondering if someone could help me out with a few questions.

I am playing a marauder on hardcore and am planning on using 1 hand + shield, would getting unwavering stance make perfect sense for me then since i plan to reduce most damage as opposed to dodge it? Also nodes such as "heart of the gladiator" which give +30 to maximum life, are they bad? + 30 max life seems pretty bad for scaling or does it work differently?

Unwavering Stance is perfect and closeby. It'll make you unstunnable and sometimes when you block you get stunned.

30 max Life node is crazy good, it scales with other Life nodes. After this patch you usually get like 200% Life or more in builds, specially for Melee builds. So that'll make close to 100 Life or more.


Thank you for the answer, would you mind explaining if possible what it means for the life nodes to scale? If it says +30 max life do I actually get more than that? Do I get x more max life depending on what level I am?

Or am I just not knowing enough about how much end game max life is and 100 is actually a lot, highest I got was lvl 30 a year ago like I said.

Well you pick up other Life nodes which give for example 10% increased Life. The 30 maximum Life go to the base Life which gets increased by all the % Life nodes. So say you have 10% increased Life from nodes, then the 30 max Life note will actually give 33 Life.

And yes, 100 Life is a lot, max I've seen on the forum was a Facebreaker with Legacy items and only Life nodes, he made a char with 10000 Life. Usually you'll probably have around 4-5k Life as Melee with decent equip.


@Others: I've killed Dominus on Normal and got one Unique, and on Cruel two Uniques, is that normal?!


GGG said they were buffing the rarity of end game bosses so they were better for farming. Sounds above average at least, but how lucky you are is hard to say.

On October 25 2013 07:41 zdfgucker wrote:
This is nuts. Some people are mapping already and beyond level 60. I couldn't do that if you gave me meginords and 1000% facebreakers yesterday including tabula rasa and a 6L inf blow setup, lol.

How did you guys level so fast? I play templar right now and want to be a caster, so grabbing marauder life nodes is not viable.. which means low hp for me.. T_T


The key is playing as efficient as possible. Optimized play can be kinda anti-fun though in a lot of respects.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 00:08:44
October 25 2013 00:07 GMT
#10540
So if you have Unwavering Stance with prevent stun and you have Iron Reflexes, does that mean you can't be stunned but have a ton of armor?

I did a couple runthroughs on Normal and Merciless with a lvl 70 char, got a decent number of rares but no uniques.
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