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On February 19 2013 04:12 Obstikal wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 03:59 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On February 19 2013 03:56 Obstikal wrote:On February 19 2013 01:34 Benjamin99 wrote:On February 18 2013 23:51 Mithhaike wrote:On February 18 2013 23:09 Obstikal wrote:On February 18 2013 22:07 Vallelol wrote:
Can't wait for the implementation of new melee gems, I really wanna play melee, but with Lightning Strike and Cleave the only AOE options with 1handed weapons like daggers or claws it's really boring to play :/ or the fact that LA is best aoe atm and theres little reason to really use other arrow skills besides frenzy, or that FP is so good its one of the best spells to use for such a long time theres really no reason to use other spells besides wanting to use other spells but you wont get as much dmg and versatility. Dont get me wrong I really like this game but I feel it's losing that "create w/e build you want and play" aspect of the game at least for now but like you said new skill gems coming and they're always balancing stuff so only time before they start making other gems just as good as the current over used ones. With that being said is LA really the only option rangers have atm ?? Are there any other bow skill gems that scale as good or close to it ?? If you get enough dps, Split arrow is a decent replacement. But you must understand how come LA is basically what everyone uses in the first place. LA the skill itself has a AOE component to it. Thats what makes it insanely powerful when you increase the number of projectiles with LMP & fork/chain. Each LA will splash damage to the enemies next to it, when you add in LMP & Fork/Chain extra projectiles...LA is very hard to beat for AOE damage. Hell i use LA for 2 & more creeps. It's that good due to how the damage stacks. Single target its a tossup between Frenzy & Elemental Hit mostly. All the other arrows pretty much suck too much. my physical crit build coulnt work without split arrow. Absolutely love it. lvl 17 split arrow with chain + life on hit = godmode Hmm okay I will take a look at split arrow as well. My only concern is that since its more phy based and I'm building for a high crit bow that I might get 1shotted from reflect mobs ?? or if I run hatred will it convert enough phy to ele to not reflect as much ?? Hatred doesn't convert. It adds cold damage. If you get the point where you're one shotting yourself on reflect mobs then you can pick up vaal pact. With LoH you might hit enough targets to not worry about it though. I don't think Split Arrow hits as many times as lightning arrow, but Lightning Arrow is major overkill on hits ^_^ oh.. man I never noticed lol.. but if i get high enough phy it will really make hatred strong and freeze enemy's with my hopefully high crit chance right ? I might go this route instead of LA.. I really want to get high crit and freeze shit while maintaining good dps. I thought for a while going phy/crit and trying to convert the phy to ele or add ele so a huge majority of my dmg isnt just phy and I wont get hit as hard from reflect.. but as you said vaalpact and LoH would sort of cancel out a lot of that so.. hm.. so lost haha.. Im currently holding out on passives until I can settle.. okay new idea... EleHit,Wed,eleProflieration,Lmp,chain I like the idea with this with high crit but I would still need a LoH or LL right ? or would a majority of my hit be ele based so I would worry too much about that? Edit: got elehit
The lifeleech support gem works on all damage done with that skill so it doesn't matter that you're doing elemental. You might be able to get enough life leech from gear and passives to sustain yourself off your physical damage though. Without numbers I'd say that is probably a stretch though. Even with Carnage Heart I don't think the dps is high enough to hit 20%, and if you're using vaal pact you aren't even limited there.
I still standby the fact that debuffing simply isn't worthwhile with a bow. You don't need crits to apply shock with static blows so unless your sole goal is avoid lightning arrow then your build is rather pointless in my opinion.
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On February 19 2013 02:15 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 13:21 Pwere wrote:
Anyone here has short races experience? I did a few 1h Duelist runs, but I'm still pretty far away from the numbers I've seen. I tried both DW and 2h, and get to ~400k with both, but I don't see how to get to 500k+ besides getting really lucky (quicksilver, MS boots, good weapon).
My run is basically:
Run to Hillock. Run to Mud Flats. Grab glyphs, level ~2.5. Run to waypoint, grab fire trap and possibly coral ring. Hit ledge at level 4, equip -4% movespeed chest, kill stuff on the way, hit 7.
Kill stuff on 1st floor for level 8.5. Kill stuff on 2nd floor for level 9. Kill Brutus. This is ~25 mins.
Grab Leap Slam if 2h, Hatred if DW. (Not sure about this. Leap Slam allows to skip some areas and deal with desyncs, but Hatred does kill faster).
Hit level 10 so you can leap slam to avoid the big fire dog. Run until Cove. Hit 11 in Cove.
Cavern of Wrath. Waypoint, grab sapphire ring + added fire damage (cleave). Hit 12.
Cavern of Anger, Hit 13. Kill Merveil. 45 mins ideally, usually 50 if something went wrong.
Hit 15 on the way to Western Forest. Farm the hell out of it, or farm crossing. I'm not sure about this last part either. I end up about ~400k either way, and Dark Forest can ruin your run if you get unlucky with the exit.
I've never seen a quicksilver flask in ~5 runs, and only twice got MS boots. So far I've been lucky and always had at least one portal and one medium life flask before Brutus. Not many people make it to 400k. The top players always get lucky with drops; that is just how the race works. Not many people made it to 400k, but I'd expect 400k to barely get you top 20 in the first real 1h race. I got it in my last 3 runs now, with moderate luck (good enough gear, but no MS/QS).
What still troubles me is how a witch can get 500k. I know he rolls another character first to grab a skill for his witch, but I'm not sure which one. I think it would be better to do mercy mission to get firetrap, and the only other useful hillock skill is dual strike. So freeze pulse/firetrap/dual strike wtih dagger/claws? But witch has no dex or str available before level ~12.
Also, the top 10 has a lot of familiar faces. They get 500k on moderate luck. I hate them =)On February 19 2013 03:56 Obstikal wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 01:34 Benjamin99 wrote:On February 18 2013 23:51 Mithhaike wrote:On February 18 2013 23:09 Obstikal wrote:On February 18 2013 22:07 Vallelol wrote:
Can't wait for the implementation of new melee gems, I really wanna play melee, but with Lightning Strike and Cleave the only AOE options with 1handed weapons like daggers or claws it's really boring to play :/ or the fact that LA is best aoe atm and theres little reason to really use other arrow skills besides frenzy, or that FP is so good its one of the best spells to use for such a long time theres really no reason to use other spells besides wanting to use other spells but you wont get as much dmg and versatility. Dont get me wrong I really like this game but I feel it's losing that "create w/e build you want and play" aspect of the game at least for now but like you said new skill gems coming and they're always balancing stuff so only time before they start making other gems just as good as the current over used ones. With that being said is LA really the only option rangers have atm ?? Are there any other bow skill gems that scale as good or close to it ?? If you get enough dps, Split arrow is a decent replacement. But you must understand how come LA is basically what everyone uses in the first place. LA the skill itself has a AOE component to it. Thats what makes it insanely powerful when you increase the number of projectiles with LMP & fork/chain. Each LA will splash damage to the enemies next to it, when you add in LMP & Fork/Chain extra projectiles...LA is very hard to beat for AOE damage. Hell i use LA for 2 & more creeps. It's that good due to how the damage stacks. Single target its a tossup between Frenzy & Elemental Hit mostly. All the other arrows pretty much suck too much. my physical crit build coulnt work without split arrow. Absolutely love it. lvl 17 split arrow with chain + life on hit = godmode Hmm okay I will take a look at split arrow as well. My only concern is that since its more phy based and I'm building for a high crit bow that I might get 1shotted from reflect mobs ?? or if I run hatred will it convert enough phy to ele to not reflect as much ?? LA is better than split arrow for both damage (shock) and number of hits (life gain). It's also better for reflect mobs. LA + LMP + Chain = 36 hits per shot. 1k+ life gained. That's godmode.
Split arrow is a very good skill. But LA is simply broken/OP.
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So I'm doing a 4 link lightning strike containing of Lightning Strike + Chain + Life on Hit + Elemental damage and it's great! ....until there's some kind of doodads in the world. Any kind of gravestone, tree, or anything else on the floor really kills lightning strike for me. : (
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On February 19 2013 05:34 Pwere wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 02:15 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On February 18 2013 13:21 Pwere wrote:
Anyone here has short races experience? I did a few 1h Duelist runs, but I'm still pretty far away from the numbers I've seen. I tried both DW and 2h, and get to ~400k with both, but I don't see how to get to 500k+ besides getting really lucky (quicksilver, MS boots, good weapon).
My run is basically:
Run to Hillock. Run to Mud Flats. Grab glyphs, level ~2.5. Run to waypoint, grab fire trap and possibly coral ring. Hit ledge at level 4, equip -4% movespeed chest, kill stuff on the way, hit 7.
Kill stuff on 1st floor for level 8.5. Kill stuff on 2nd floor for level 9. Kill Brutus. This is ~25 mins.
Grab Leap Slam if 2h, Hatred if DW. (Not sure about this. Leap Slam allows to skip some areas and deal with desyncs, but Hatred does kill faster).
Hit level 10 so you can leap slam to avoid the big fire dog. Run until Cove. Hit 11 in Cove.
Cavern of Wrath. Waypoint, grab sapphire ring + added fire damage (cleave). Hit 12.
Cavern of Anger, Hit 13. Kill Merveil. 45 mins ideally, usually 50 if something went wrong.
Hit 15 on the way to Western Forest. Farm the hell out of it, or farm crossing. I'm not sure about this last part either. I end up about ~400k either way, and Dark Forest can ruin your run if you get unlucky with the exit.
I've never seen a quicksilver flask in ~5 runs, and only twice got MS boots. So far I've been lucky and always had at least one portal and one medium life flask before Brutus. Not many people make it to 400k. The top players always get lucky with drops; that is just how the race works. Not many people made it to 400k, but I'd expect 400k to barely get you top 20 in the first real 1h race. I got it in my last 3 runs now, with moderate luck (good enough gear, but no MS/QS). What still troubles me is how a witch can get 500k. I know he rolls another character first to grab a skill for his witch, but I'm not sure which one. I think it would be better to do mercy mission to get firetrap, and the only other useful hillock skill is dual strike. So freeze pulse/firetrap/dual strike wtih dagger/claws? But witch has no dex or str available before level ~12. Also, the top 10 has a lot of familiar faces. They get 500k on moderate luck. I hate them =)
Some of it is making your own luck. The guy that won the 4H race got a silverbranch so he went for a poison arrow build. I don't imagine he planned that beforehand. Have no idea what build the Witch uses though. Very few people roll witch for races it seems so he must know something that nobody else does.
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Anybody got a list of drop only gems? I looked on the wiki but it doesn't seem complete or fully accurate.
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Let's see if I can get them on the top of my head!
Greater Multiple Projectiles
Elemental Weakness
Elemental Prolifiteration?
Chain
Elemental Hit
Temporal Chains
Concentrated Area Effect
Looked up a list, according to it this is all of them.
@Blitz - that exists? Never seen that yet and I'm lvl 60 in HC. lol
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Hi I play a lot of poe I have hardcore and softcore characters add me The character I am currently playing on is called andyhardcore
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And Punishment.
And Devouring totem.
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+ Show Spoiler [added chaos damage] +Rarity: Gem
Added Chaos Damage
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Chaos, Support
Level: 1
Mana Cost Multiplier: 150%
Experience: 1/179320
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Requirements:
Level: 31
Int: 52
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Adds 16-25 Chaos Damage
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This is a Support Gem. It does not grant a bonus to your character, but to skills in sockets connected to it. Place into an item socket connected to a socket containing the Active Skill Gem you wish to augment. Right click to remove from a socket.
meant to edit that ^_^
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What support gems are good with 1 curse? I only have increased duration (which I think can be replaced sinced a lvl 17 curse last ~11 seconds, more than a long time to kill mobs or long enough to not keep casting on bosses all the time) and 1 extra slot.
The AoE is huge already too...so trying to think of others that would be useful
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Usually you leave the curse at level 1 and link it increased aoe or duration because the mana costs start running pretty high compared to how much benefit you're getting out of it.
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Faster casting and Reduced Mana Cost are pretty good on curses. Use one 4L for two curses + two support, usually temporal chain and your offensive curse of choice.
Did another 400k+ run, and could have probably been closer to 500k without going to western forest. The XP penalty for level 15 or 16 there is way too harsh. Killed Merveil at 46 mins, got to western at 51, but only got from ~230k to 400k.
Leap Slam is very useful for Act2. You can jump over the river and one shots monkeys, so you get lots of free XP. So 2h + Leap Slam it is. A white lvl 12 2h is all you need, really.
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Has anyone made use of Taryn's Shiver, Maelstrom Staff? That looks pretty neat for a cold crit caster, was wondering if that would be better than using wand+shield, but really dont want to pay 2 exalts+ for one and suck lol
Heres the properties
+1 to Level of Cold Gems in this Item
(40-50)% Increased Spell Damage
(40-50)% Increased Cold Damage
(10-20)% Increased Cast Speed
8% Chance to Freeze Enemies on hit with Cold Damage
Enemies Frozen by You take 20% Increased Damage
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Streaming a bit again, little warm up then some maps.
www.twitch.tv/pufftrees
+ Show Spoiler + Level 75 Arc witch, build is based around shocking them (+shock/high quality gems) and lots of crit
ES ~ 3300 only 1 hp -_-
Arc single target dps says 2200 (but I am all aoe, and that is pre debuff or shock)
Use Very High Quality (+18-20) Lightning Warp, Arc, Item Rarity/Quantity, and other supports that are key
Farming ATM
Arc + Life Leech (es leech) + Crit Chance + Crit Mult + Item Rarity
Arc + Spell Totem + Chain + faster Casting
Disciprine + Clarity + Tempest Shield + Reduced Mana
Conduct + Temp chains + Ele/crit Weakness + Increased AoE
Lightning Warp + faster casting
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its taking a long time for me to get upgrades to my gear
i refuse to use my orbs until its a lvl 70 gear
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On February 19 2013 10:02 Pufftrees wrote:Streaming a bit again, little warm up then some maps. www.twitch.tv/pufftrees + Show Spoiler + Level 75 Arc witch, build is based around shocking them (+shock/high quality gems) and lots of crit
ES ~ 3300 only 1 hp -_-
Arc single target dps says 2200 (but I am all aoe, and that is pre debuff or shock)
Use Very High Quality (+18-20) Lightning Warp, Arc, Item Rarity/Quantity, and other supports that are key
Farming ATM
Arc + Life Leech (es leech) + Crit Chance + Crit Mult + Item Rarity
Arc + Spell Totem + Chain + faster Casting
Disciprine + Clarity + Tempest Shield + Reduced Mana
Conduct + Temp chains + Ele/crit Weakness + Increased AoE
Lightning Warp + faster casting
TravelSpeed of lightning warp is determined by movespeed not cast speed.
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Can't even play this game solo due to massive desyncs and losing 15% xp per death. Guess I'll play a game I play 99% solo during a time when the servers aren't as busy?
Does anyone know if the devs are actually planning to balance out the skills or anything? Every time I play any class I just don't understand why I don't roll a BM LA templar and go from there.
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On February 19 2013 10:44 AnotherRandom wrote:
Can't even play this game solo due to massive desyncs and losing 15% xp per death. Guess I'll play a game I play 99% solo during a time when the servers aren't as busy?
Does anyone know if the devs are actually planning to balance out the skills or anything? Every time I play any class I just don't understand why I don't roll a BM LA templar and go from there.
What areas do you play in? I have a severe drop in FPS in The Docks and Western forest, but everywhere else is pretty smooth, its weird
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On February 19 2013 10:44 AnotherRandom wrote:
Can't even play this game solo due to massive desyncs and losing 15% xp per death. Guess I'll play a game I play 99% solo during a time when the servers aren't as busy?
Does anyone know if the devs are actually planning to balance out the skills or anything? Every time I play any class I just don't understand why I don't roll a BM LA templar and go from there.
EU at this hour has no spikes / desyncs whatsoever. I just try to play via gateways that are off peak at the moment, seems to help a lot.
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