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N1k0
Profile Joined June 2011
Uruguay1075 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 20:59:51
February 11 2013 20:55 GMT
#5901
this motherfucker droped on the first rare i found on cruel, im pretty happy
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P.S: Rhoas and flicker mobs are terrifying
mishatails
Profile Joined May 2012
12 Posts
February 11 2013 21:09 GMT
#5902
Still trying to sell my HC mirror... if anyone interested
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
February 11 2013 21:27 GMT
#5903
Is anyone going to be doing the race today?
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 11 2013 21:30 GMT
#5904
On February 12 2013 06:27 Tennet wrote:
Is anyone going to be doing the race today?


Probably not today, but the the last two. One hour race is just silly. I imagine you just rush to fellshire and farm there? Just farming Ledge might be better though.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
February 11 2013 21:34 GMT
#5905
None of the next few races give rewards so not very interested.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
February 11 2013 21:34 GMT
#5906
I think 1 Hour is ledge farm simulator, possibly fellshrine. It's solo so getting that far to act 2 seems less efficient. It might possibly include coves, but getting there takes a lot of time.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
February 11 2013 21:39 GMT
#5907
People get higher than level 16 in 1h, so it can't be the Ledge. Just check the forums, it should be in there.

I'm rolling a 2h duelist for this one. I doubt anything kills as fast at low levels.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 11 2013 21:42 GMT
#5908
On February 12 2013 06:34 RuskiPanda wrote:
None of the next few races give rewards so not very interested.


It is good practice if you're serious about participating. You need to run the route a few times to know what you can get away with.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
February 11 2013 21:45 GMT
#5909
I'm still unsure what class and build I will do for the race. I have time to decide though..
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 11 2013 21:50 GMT
#5910
On February 12 2013 06:45 Tennet wrote:
I'm still unsure what class and build I will do for the race. I have time to decide though..


Ground Slam or Cleave are your only options I think.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 21:53:25
February 11 2013 21:51 GMT
#5911
Shadow with freeze pulse and poison arrow is good too.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
February 11 2013 22:53 GMT
#5912
Would it be smart to start trading your exalts/divines/GCP's to chaos/alchs? I feel like the market is getting drowned out and the higher the currency, the less expensive it will get over time. Softcore league that is, anyone that's been active in trading chat/market agree? Chaos/Alchs are not going to be deflated ever so you could 99% of the time get the current conversion to exalts/divines/(maybe GCP's) on the server at will, while going the other way is much harder.
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
AnotherRandom
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada81 Posts
February 11 2013 23:20 GMT
#5913
On February 12 2013 07:53 Archers_bane wrote:
Would it be smart to start trading your exalts/divines/GCP's to chaos/alchs? I feel like the market is getting drowned out and the higher the currency, the less expensive it will get over time. Softcore league that is, anyone that's been active in trading chat/market agree? Chaos/Alchs are not going to be deflated ever so you could 99% of the time get the current conversion to exalts/divines/(maybe GCP's) on the server at will, while going the other way is much harder.


That's what I've been trying to do. It was hard enough breaking my exalted into 2 Divine, and now no one wants Divine.

I really don't see why some of the things have the value they do. Fusing should be worth more than Alch, Blessed should be worth nothing since it's garbage. Chaos being 2:1 Alch is also kind of weird, Chaos needs to be hoarded en masse but Alch'ing high ilvl white jewellery and maps is really useful too. GCP's have a strange value in that they're not actually used in the way that they were intended. Based on market value and what quality gems go for relative to GCP's you'd be silly to upgrade an item below 17% quality.

What I really wish someone would do is either data mine/hack the drop values of items and compare it to a correlated table of values for the rarity of rolling a particular set of mods. That way we'd at least have an objective measurement of: how much time it takes to find an item based on drop rate vs (map density vs average mob hp vs DPS) and what it would be worth.

I'm almost tempted to make this info myself but I don't know if we have access to the drop rates of things like currency or if we know the full formula for rolling items.


Really though I just wish GGG was smart enough to not have gone with their obsolete barter system and instead used a proper currency + stock market + auction house system.
Teamliquid is one of the dumbest gaming communities on the internet.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 11 2013 23:22 GMT
#5914
On February 12 2013 07:53 Archers_bane wrote:
Would it be smart to start trading your exalts/divines/GCP's to chaos/alchs? I feel like the market is getting drowned out and the higher the currency, the less expensive it will get over time. Softcore league that is, anyone that's been active in trading chat/market agree? Chaos/Alchs are not going to be deflated ever so you could 99% of the time get the current conversion to exalts/divines/(maybe GCP's) on the server at will, while going the other way is much harder.


Exalts will be a lot more valuable once people start using them actually. Right now it's pretty easy to get upgrades for cheaper than an exalt for almost everyone. That won't be the case in a month or two.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
February 11 2013 23:28 GMT
#5915
On February 12 2013 02:41 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 16:06 vol_ wrote:
On February 11 2013 15:58 Chaosu wrote:
On February 11 2013 15:51 vol_ wrote:
On February 11 2013 14:03 Infernal_dream wrote:
On February 11 2013 13:52 crms wrote:
On February 11 2013 11:34 vol_ wrote:
So I just finished act 1 Merc for the first time, this is my second character. My first was a pretty wimpy shadow I gave up on around a3 cruel, this ones a ele bow ranger.
I dont know if I have better than average gear or something but it was a lot easier than I expected. Brutus got like 1 cast off before dieing and merveil hit like a wimp. My Frenzy does 3k dps, is that a lot at this stage?



what level are you? and what are you skill setups? (like what skills do you use with what links?)

also can you post your build?

My LA ranger doesn't do anywhere near 3k dps and I'm lv54 in act 3 cruel. I have basically taking every life node or defensive option in my tree so far and all my gear is resist/hp (for the most part) but god damn. I couldn't imagine doing 3k dps by act1 merciless.


I dunno about this either. 3k dps act 1 merciless? Unless you have full uniques at 20% I'm just not seeing how that's even remotely possible. Even at level 50.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAAdEEswUtCC4OPA6tFE0UcRjbGS4Zjho4IWAn7Si1KaUshTIJMok1kjpSQKBBqkOcSn1OyFYEVvpX4lnzWhpbr2BLYIhhUmOnZp5noHKpdO108Xfleu982YZgh3aQCpBVm42euZ_LogCiQKeErKqv67ndwBrEotN-1I_dDd1G37_sOO2D7g7vTvIv9Pj3Mvjr_E78xQ==

I am 60 now i was around 55-56 the end of act 1
I use Frenzy - WED - Culling - Life leech with Wrath and Anger
Sorry forgot to mention thats 3k dps at 4 stacks of frenzy
My bow is decent I guess, here are my gear pieces that contribute to my dps the most
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Rarity: Rare
Skull Mark
Thicket Bow
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Bow
Quality: +20% (augmented)
Physical Damage: 36-105 (augmented)
Elemental Damage: 16-27 (augmented), 7-96 (augmented)
Critical Strike Chance: 5%
Attacks per Second: 1.55
--------
Requirements:
Level: 58 (gem)
Dex: 179
Int (gem): 82
--------
68% increased Physical Damage
Adds 16-27 Cold Damage
Adds 7-96 Lightning Damage
18% increased Global Critical Strike Multiplier
+28% to Fire Resistance
+8 to Accuracy Rating

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Rarity: Rare
Onslaught Rod
Rugged Quiver
--------
Requirements:
Level: 23
--------
Adds 2-3 Cold Damage
--------
Adds 6-10 Physical Damage
+21 to Dexterity
Adds 6-16 Cold Damage
Adds 2-28 Lightning Damage
5% increased Attack Speed
11% increased Global Critical Strike Chance

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Rarity: Rare
Carrion Rosary
Onyx Amulet
--------
Requirements:
Level: 42
--------
+20 to all Attributes
--------
Adds 5-50 Lightning Damage
+63 to maximum Life
+12 to maximum Energy Shield
+15% to Lightning Resistance
15% increased Rarity of Items found

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Rarity: Rare
Miracle Paw
Bronzescale Gauntlets
--------
Armour: 50 (augmented)
Evasion Rating: 50 (augmented)
--------
Requirements:
Level: 58 (gem)
Str (gem): 130
Dex: 22
Int (gem): 55
--------
Adds 10-18 Fire Damage
12% increased Attack Speed
+6 to Accuracy Rating
16% increased Armour and Evasion
8% increased Block and Stun Recovery


You have very good bow and extremaly good quiver and amulet for dps but if you're on hardcore invest in some life.

On February 11 2013 15:51 vol_ wrote:
iirc I had 2200 or so HP around 40 Fire/30 cold/ -6 lightning / -50 chaos resistance. I used my rejuv totem to bait flickering strike or w/e it is those wraith guys in allflame quest do, i was quite proud of that


I just updated with my previous post with defensive stats which are quite abysmal yes, im sitting at 2500 hp now thou and waiting on some resist gear auctions in trade forums to finish up. I am softcore but I did not feel threatened at any point in a1 with those stats except the flickering strike which was easy enough to draw out.



Oh.. I thought you were hardcore. That makes sense. There is noway I could justify wearing all that dps gear with such little resist/hp. That makes sense I guess. I have the sickest dps gloves but I'm too scared to wear them since they don't have hp/resist. =(

Softcore or not it was still easy..
I am still yet to die, (except for once when i alt tabbed and just left my dude in an area i thought cleared XD) which is why I felt it was a cakewalk even with my defensive stats, No TP abuse or anything required. It seems to me if your playing HC and focusing on that stuff it would be really hard to die.. But I guess to a certain extent a good offence yada yada
I can see act 3 being a lot tougher thou, I guess in the other difficulties act 1 was easy compared to the other 2 aswell.

I'll be rolling a HC char now I think but I have had some close calls with lag and desync. I get 240ms, kinda sucks how bad our connection in Aus is to this game seeing how it is made so damn close to us.
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
February 11 2013 23:53 GMT
#5916
Price check on an 8% Frenzy? It seems that when the quality is actually useful it's ~1 GCP per 5% quality, but the Frenzy quality seems really, really nice, so I'm not sure.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
T0F4sT
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands317 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 23:55:07
February 11 2013 23:54 GMT
#5917
I did Merciless Piety today, was pretty easy with 3.2k HP 80% all res and 2k DPS Frenzy.
Time to do maps tomorrow !
EGdoto #dealwithit
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 12 2013 00:10 GMT
#5918
On February 12 2013 08:20 AnotherRandom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 07:53 Archers_bane wrote:
Would it be smart to start trading your exalts/divines/GCP's to chaos/alchs? I feel like the market is getting drowned out and the higher the currency, the less expensive it will get over time. Softcore league that is, anyone that's been active in trading chat/market agree? Chaos/Alchs are not going to be deflated ever so you could 99% of the time get the current conversion to exalts/divines/(maybe GCP's) on the server at will, while going the other way is much harder.


That's what I've been trying to do. It was hard enough breaking my exalted into 2 Divine, and now no one wants Divine.

I really don't see why some of the things have the value they do. Fusing should be worth more than Alch, Blessed should be worth nothing since it's garbage. Chaos being 2:1 Alch is also kind of weird, Chaos needs to be hoarded en masse but Alch'ing high ilvl white jewellery and maps is really useful too. GCP's have a strange value in that they're not actually used in the way that they were intended. Based on market value and what quality gems go for relative to GCP's you'd be silly to upgrade an item below 17% quality.

What I really wish someone would do is either data mine/hack the drop values of items and compare it to a correlated table of values for the rarity of rolling a particular set of mods. That way we'd at least have an objective measurement of: how much time it takes to find an item based on drop rate vs (map density vs average mob hp vs DPS) and what it would be worth.

I'm almost tempted to make this info myself but I don't know if we have access to the drop rates of things like currency or if we know the full formula for rolling items.


Really though I just wish GGG was smart enough to not have gone with their obsolete barter system and instead used a proper currency + stock market + auction house system.



because currency has problems and an auction house doesn't work without a standard currency
are you going to argue that currency doesn't have inflation issues in games?
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
February 12 2013 00:22 GMT
#5919
On February 12 2013 09:10 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 08:20 AnotherRandom wrote:
On February 12 2013 07:53 Archers_bane wrote:
Would it be smart to start trading your exalts/divines/GCP's to chaos/alchs? I feel like the market is getting drowned out and the higher the currency, the less expensive it will get over time. Softcore league that is, anyone that's been active in trading chat/market agree? Chaos/Alchs are not going to be deflated ever so you could 99% of the time get the current conversion to exalts/divines/(maybe GCP's) on the server at will, while going the other way is much harder.


That's what I've been trying to do. It was hard enough breaking my exalted into 2 Divine, and now no one wants Divine.

I really don't see why some of the things have the value they do. Fusing should be worth more than Alch, Blessed should be worth nothing since it's garbage. Chaos being 2:1 Alch is also kind of weird, Chaos needs to be hoarded en masse but Alch'ing high ilvl white jewellery and maps is really useful too. GCP's have a strange value in that they're not actually used in the way that they were intended. Based on market value and what quality gems go for relative to GCP's you'd be silly to upgrade an item below 17% quality.

What I really wish someone would do is either data mine/hack the drop values of items and compare it to a correlated table of values for the rarity of rolling a particular set of mods. That way we'd at least have an objective measurement of: how much time it takes to find an item based on drop rate vs (map density vs average mob hp vs DPS) and what it would be worth.

I'm almost tempted to make this info myself but I don't know if we have access to the drop rates of things like currency or if we know the full formula for rolling items.


Really though I just wish GGG was smart enough to not have gone with their obsolete barter system and instead used a proper currency + stock market + auction house system.



because currency has problems and an auction house doesn't work without a standard currency
are you going to argue that currency doesn't have inflation issues in games?

After what happened with gold in D2 I think what GGG did was ingenious and I love the lack of an AH after D3. I really like the bartering system and trading with other people, it's populating my friends list a lot faster than D3 did.

I do agree thou that the usefulness of certain orbs are not in line with what the general consensus is on what they are worth.
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
kuruptt
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada168 Posts
February 12 2013 00:27 GMT
#5920
Is there any reason to do hardcore league over default league other then for pride and stuff like that?

Does anyone have a guide or anything to get rich?

I feel as though the economy in this game is so weird right now. I bought an elemental hit gem for like 1 alchemy and just traded it for a chain gem. Most people don't know good prices right now. Do you guys think this will change?
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