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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
On September 05 2011 20:42 RealQ wrote: This guy was such a fucking beast when he played for PSV. Yeah he was one of the best goalies in europe before he moved to Tottenham, and im not even joking. | ||
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Telebear
United Kingdom107 Posts
On September 07 2011 05:33 sixfour wrote: Worst England performance in a long time, only Young and maybe Downing looked like they gave half a shit, only thing that's more embarrassing is our piss poor "support" england are fucking terrible and people have expectations beyond the quality of the team and i say this being english | ||
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macmann
87 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gSaFm.png) Can't wait! | ||
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clementdudu
France819 Posts
On September 07 2011 09:25 Telebear wrote: england are fucking terrible and people have expectations beyond the quality of the team and i say this being english o_O the only people who ever expected smth from england are english people convinced rooney is messis equal,nobody else ever predicts a strong showing from england in international competitions. | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
Looks like a nail biting finish in our group with both Norway, Portugal and Denmark on 13 points. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28736 Posts
norway has been good most of the time as of late, but they're still inconsistent and really seem unable to perform when it's truly important. | ||
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Telebear
United Kingdom107 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:37 clementdudu wrote: o_O the only people who ever expected smth from england are english people convinced rooney is messis equal,nobody else ever predicts a strong showing from england in international competitions. yeah by people i meant english people, the rest of the world has more sense | ||
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macmann
87 Posts
But then again, England is ranked 4th and fifa ranking is a joke. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On September 07 2011 21:42 macmann wrote: we haven't seen Norway in any recent euro or world cup, yet they are ranked 12th in the world. But then again, England is ranked 4th and fifa ranking is a joke. indeed, any ranking system that doesn't have the current world/european champions at number 1 is hilariously bad. the guy that does the elo ratings site has ratings that are much more accurate | ||
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UdderChaos
United Kingdom707 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:37 clementdudu wrote: o_O the only people who ever expected smth from england are english people convinced rooney is messis equal,nobody else ever predicts a strong showing from england in international competitions. No one in england is convinced he is messi, because Rooney actually preforms for his national squad unlike messi. All joking aside, he is clearly in the top 5-3 players in the world, the frustration comes from the fact that england have had a very good side on paper for almost a decade now, but due to bad managers and a lack of team play and some bad luck have failed to do as well as they should have. Let's not forgot that before last year they have always finished above 10th in the world cup since 1994 and always got past the group stage, more than can be said for France, that despite winning it and coming close to winning it twice in the past 10 years have also done much worse than england some years. There is a reason fifa have them as the 4th team in the world (although that is over-rated). | ||
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clementdudu
France819 Posts
as for england being 4th in fifa ranking.....quoting fifa ranking usually isnt something good to to prove a point.(id probably rank them as 12th or so) | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On September 07 2011 21:48 sixfour wrote: indeed, any ranking system that doesn't have the current world/european champions at number 1 is hilariously bad. the guy that does the elo ratings site has ratings that are much more accurate That elo ranking is interesting. Funny that the all time high of all nations is held by Hungary, their team was incredibly dominant in 1954 before losing in the finals to Germany. | ||
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UdderChaos
United Kingdom707 Posts
On September 07 2011 22:21 clementdudu wrote: probably top 10 in my eyes(ronaldo messi iniesta fabregas easily better).Youre right about the consistency though,they always get past the group stage and get eliminated pretty fast,making them an average team consistently.id rather win it once and be runner up once than being in 1/8 every time. as for england being 4th in fifa ranking.....quoting fifa ranking usually isnt something good to to prove a point.(id probably rank them as 12th or so) How is fabregas better than rooney? In what world? | ||
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Telebear
United Kingdom107 Posts
maybe top 15 at the very most | ||
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UdderChaos
United Kingdom707 Posts
On September 08 2011 00:18 Telebear wrote: rooney isnt even the best player for man united let alone top 3-5 in the world maybe top 15 at the very most Do you even watch football :S ? | ||
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Telebear
United Kingdom107 Posts
to clarify to be in the top 5 players in the world you'd have to be the best in your position or 2nd best, rooney is not this and he never has been | ||
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UdderChaos
United Kingdom707 Posts
Who in the utd squad is better? and also apart from messi, ron and xavi/inestia who is better than him in the world? P.S. as to your edit, thats just rubbish, there are arguably better players at being traditional "wingers" than messi, but thats not the point, hes still one of the best players of all time and clearly the best player in the world, also what if the top three players in the world play the same position? | ||
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
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Telebear
United Kingdom107 Posts
alongside the 4 you've mentioned i'd say Ozil, Vidic, Tevez, Suarez, Snejider, maybe Busquets, Villa, sanchez, E'too if he was still playing in italy, even forwards like di natale and cavani I'd rather have in my team than rooney | ||
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UdderChaos
United Kingdom707 Posts
On September 08 2011 01:03 Telebear wrote: When vidic is fit hes the best centre back in the world alongside the 4 you've mentioned i'd say Ozil, Vidic, Tevez, Suarez, Snejider, maybe Busquets, Villa, sanchez, E'too if he was still playing in italy, even forwards like di natale and cavani I'd rather have in my team than rooney So sanchez who has one cap for barca, lol, Tevez that was outscored by Rooney consistently, Snejider that had one good display of form, Suarez (this is the point when i realize your a Liverpool fan) who has potential but hasn't preformed well enough or long enough to be considered even top 20 in the world atm, E'too is well past it, Villa is overrated, but quality yes. Ozil is the only player in the same bracket as rooney, and even hes only had one real good season so far, time will tell. Its hard to compare a center back with a striker/playmaker but yeah i guess vidic could be argued to be better on previous form but not at the moment, but we are talking current form. | ||
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