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ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
September 06 2011 22:50 GMT
#1221
On September 05 2011 20:42 RealQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 07:16 MorningMusume11 wrote:
I THINK GOMES IS BEST GOALIE JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
I KNOW U TOTTENHAM FANS AGREE 190%
I MEAN LOOK AT DAT HEADSHOT


+ Show Spoiler +
one way to derail Barca / Real talks



This guy was such a fucking beast when he played for PSV.

Yeah he was one of the best goalies in europe before he moved to Tottenham, and im not even joking.
Telebear
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom107 Posts
September 07 2011 00:25 GMT
#1222
On September 07 2011 05:33 sixfour wrote:
Worst England performance in a long time, only Young and maybe Downing looked like they gave half a shit, only thing that's more embarrassing is our piss poor "support"



england are fucking terrible and people have expectations beyond the quality of the team and i say this being english
macmann
Profile Joined May 2011
87 Posts
September 07 2011 04:20 GMT
#1223
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Can't wait!
clementdudu
Profile Joined September 2010
France819 Posts
September 07 2011 09:37 GMT
#1224
On September 07 2011 09:25 Telebear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 05:33 sixfour wrote:
Worst England performance in a long time, only Young and maybe Downing looked like they gave half a shit, only thing that's more embarrassing is our piss poor "support"



england are fucking terrible and people have expectations beyond the quality of the team and i say this being english


o_O the only people who ever expected smth from england are english people convinced rooney is messis equal,nobody else ever predicts a strong showing from england in international competitions.
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
September 07 2011 09:43 GMT
#1225
Fucking great match from Denmark yesterday vs Norway. 2 goals from Bendtner.

Looks like a nail biting finish in our group with both Norway, Portugal and Denmark on 13 points.

Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28911 Posts
September 07 2011 10:44 GMT
#1226
portugal and denmark gonna get #1 and #2 in that order. nice game by denmark but among the worst games by norway for the past couple years. :'(

norway has been good most of the time as of late, but they're still inconsistent and really seem unable to perform when it's truly important.
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Telebear
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom107 Posts
September 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#1227
On September 07 2011 18:37 clementdudu wrote:
o_O the only people who ever expected smth from england are english people convinced rooney is messis equal,nobody else ever predicts a strong showing from england in international competitions.



yeah by people i meant english people, the rest of the world has more sense
macmann
Profile Joined May 2011
87 Posts
September 07 2011 12:42 GMT
#1228
we haven't seen Norway in any recent euro or world cup, yet they are ranked 12th in the world.
But then again, England is ranked 4th and fifa ranking is a joke.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
September 07 2011 12:48 GMT
#1229
On September 07 2011 21:42 macmann wrote:
we haven't seen Norway in any recent euro or world cup, yet they are ranked 12th in the world.
But then again, England is ranked 4th and fifa ranking is a joke.


indeed, any ranking system that doesn't have the current world/european champions at number 1 is hilariously bad. the guy that does the elo ratings site has ratings that are much more accurate
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
September 07 2011 12:49 GMT
#1230
On September 07 2011 18:37 clementdudu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 09:25 Telebear wrote:
On September 07 2011 05:33 sixfour wrote:
Worst England performance in a long time, only Young and maybe Downing looked like they gave half a shit, only thing that's more embarrassing is our piss poor "support"



england are fucking terrible and people have expectations beyond the quality of the team and i say this being english


o_O the only people who ever expected smth from england are english people convinced rooney is messis equal,nobody else ever predicts a strong showing from england in international competitions.

No one in england is convinced he is messi, because Rooney actually preforms for his national squad unlike messi. All joking aside, he is clearly in the top 5-3 players in the world, the frustration comes from the fact that england have had a very good side on paper for almost a decade now, but due to bad managers and a lack of team play and some bad luck have failed to do as well as they should have. Let's not forgot that before last year they have always finished above 10th in the world cup since 1994 and always got past the group stage, more than can be said for France, that despite winning it and coming close to winning it twice in the past 10 years have also done much worse than england some years. There is a reason fifa have them as the 4th team in the world (although that is over-rated).
Nunquam iens addo vos sursum
clementdudu
Profile Joined September 2010
France819 Posts
September 07 2011 13:21 GMT
#1231
probably top 10 in my eyes(ronaldo messi iniesta fabregas easily better).Youre right about the consistency though,they always get past the group stage and get eliminated pretty fast,making them an average team consistently.id rather win it once and be runner up once than being in 1/8 every time.
as for england being 4th in fifa ranking.....quoting fifa ranking usually isnt something good to to prove a point.(id probably rank them as 12th or so)
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
September 07 2011 13:26 GMT
#1232
On September 07 2011 21:48 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 21:42 macmann wrote:
we haven't seen Norway in any recent euro or world cup, yet they are ranked 12th in the world.
But then again, England is ranked 4th and fifa ranking is a joke.


indeed, any ranking system that doesn't have the current world/european champions at number 1 is hilariously bad. the guy that does the elo ratings site has ratings that are much more accurate

That elo ranking is interesting. Funny that the all time high of all nations is held by Hungary, their team was incredibly dominant in 1954 before losing in the finals to Germany.
UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 14:06:31
September 07 2011 13:56 GMT
#1233
On September 07 2011 22:21 clementdudu wrote:
probably top 10 in my eyes(ronaldo messi iniesta fabregas easily better).Youre right about the consistency though,they always get past the group stage and get eliminated pretty fast,making them an average team consistently.id rather win it once and be runner up once than being in 1/8 every time.
as for england being 4th in fifa ranking.....quoting fifa ranking usually isnt something good to to prove a point.(id probably rank them as 12th or so)

How is fabregas better than rooney? In what world?
Nunquam iens addo vos sursum
Telebear
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom107 Posts
September 07 2011 15:18 GMT
#1234
rooney isnt even the best player for man united let alone top 3-5 in the world

maybe top 15 at the very most
UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
September 07 2011 15:33 GMT
#1235
On September 08 2011 00:18 Telebear wrote:
rooney isnt even the best player for man united let alone top 3-5 in the world

maybe top 15 at the very most

Do you even watch football :S ?
Nunquam iens addo vos sursum
Telebear
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom107 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 15:51:44
September 07 2011 15:49 GMT
#1236
yes do you?? or are you just a man united fan?

to clarify to be in the top 5 players in the world you'd have to be the best in your position or 2nd best, rooney is not this and he never has been
UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 15:59:29
September 07 2011 15:54 GMT
#1237
So a man utd fan would have bias over which player was the best in his team? whaaaat?
Who in the utd squad is better? and also apart from messi, ron and xavi/inestia who is better than him in the world?

P.S. as to your edit, thats just rubbish, there are arguably better players at being traditional "wingers" than messi, but thats not the point, hes still one of the best players of all time and clearly the best player in the world, also what if the top three players in the world play the same position?
Nunquam iens addo vos sursum
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
September 07 2011 15:58 GMT
#1238
Probably Vidic.
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
Telebear
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom107 Posts
September 07 2011 16:03 GMT
#1239
When vidic is fit hes the best centre back in the world

alongside the 4 you've mentioned i'd say Ozil, Vidic, Tevez, Suarez, Snejider, maybe Busquets, Villa, sanchez, E'too if he was still playing in italy, even forwards like di natale and cavani I'd rather have in my team than rooney
UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 16:18:37
September 07 2011 16:10 GMT
#1240
On September 08 2011 01:03 Telebear wrote:
When vidic is fit hes the best centre back in the world

alongside the 4 you've mentioned i'd say Ozil, Vidic, Tevez, Suarez, Snejider, maybe Busquets, Villa, sanchez, E'too if he was still playing in italy, even forwards like di natale and cavani I'd rather have in my team than rooney

So sanchez who has one cap for barca, lol, Tevez that was outscored by Rooney consistently, Snejider that had one good display of form, Suarez (this is the point when i realize your a Liverpool fan) who has potential but hasn't preformed well enough or long enough to be considered even top 20 in the world atm, E'too is well past it, Villa is overrated, but quality yes. Ozil is the only player in the same bracket as rooney, and even hes only had one real good season so far, time will tell. Its hard to compare a center back with a striker/playmaker but yeah i guess vidic could be argued to be better on previous form but not at the moment, but we are talking current form.
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