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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 18 2011 21:03 GMT
#741
very nice goals, the second was hilarious as the ball bounced off a schalke defender and turned into a perfect through pass.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
August 18 2011 22:23 GMT
#742
On August 19 2011 05:25 Stimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 05:04 Rebs wrote:
On August 19 2011 00:18 Stimp wrote:
Fouling is not prohibited. If you foul, a player gets a free kick, you won't get fined or anything. If you wanna stop a counter you foul and take your yellow etc. You wanna break up play you cynical foul. That's basic stuff.


lol.. I get your point but you express it poorly... how is fouling NOT prohibited.. its a called a "FOUL" because it is Illegal and hence prohibited thats why.. you either turn the ball over or get punished for doing it. yea if you foul a player just gets a free kick, thats whats called the penalty for breaking the law.. minor breakage but a breakage nonetheless,,,

its a viable tactic sure and theres times to do it ofcourse but you usually need to face some consequence's or get lucky..

but heh... just listen to yourself... "fouling is not prohibited" ... thats like just, God im just speechless

I do get what you mean though but you might want to articulate that a little better..


Calling it 'prohibited' makes it sound like if you do it you could get a ban. Like certain drugs are prohibited etc. Fouling as the last man is prohibited as that is a straight sending off but a cynical tackle is just part of the game. Perhaps my take on the word prohibited doesn't match up to yours, but I see where you are coming from



because otherwise when you foul you get bonus points ?
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 22:56:40
August 18 2011 22:53 GMT
#743
They are listed as 'part' of the game to regulate this type of behavior, otherwise it would be unpublishable and referee's won't be able to exercise the rules.
Tackles by definition are efforts to steal the ball cleanly away from the player, which are under football rules.
If you add "cynical" its a complete different term, it implies its an unsportmanship tackle that's over the top with potential leg-breaking consequences. Thank god there red cards are 'part of the game' too, otherwise it would be madness.
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
August 19 2011 05:18 GMT
#744
On August 19 2011 07:53 ilj.psa wrote:
They are listed as 'part' of the game to regulate this type of behavior, otherwise it would be unpublishable and referee's won't be able to exercise the rules.
Tackles by definition are efforts to steal the ball cleanly away from the player, which are under football rules.
If you add "cynical" its a complete different term, it implies its an unsportmanship tackle that's over the top with potential leg-breaking consequences. Thank god there red cards are 'part of the game' too, otherwise it would be madness.


That's not what a cynical foul means. A cynical foul is basically the same as just tripping someone. If you know you aren't gonna get the ball so you just block/trip the guy. No intention to hurt
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 08:42:22
August 19 2011 08:41 GMT
#745
On August 19 2011 04:13 AngryLlama wrote:
100% not offside Offside is called when the ball is let go, not when received. When benzema shoots cr7 is behind abidal.


If Ramos touches the ball then it's offside. Couldn't really tell tho tbh.
Revolutionist fan
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
August 19 2011 08:45 GMT
#746
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Nesquik
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom600 Posts
August 19 2011 08:48 GMT
#747
Just watched the Highlights from Tottenham vs Hearts game last night, Great football from Tottenham the passing was fluent and accurate. Van der vaart what a player he could be this season.
Oh IMMvp won agian but EGHuK getting Ro8 is a way bigger deal - Gootecks
AngryLlama
Profile Joined September 2005
United States1227 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 20:42:08
August 19 2011 19:05 GMT
#748


Wonder what exactly got him this frustrated to do that... :O
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
August 19 2011 20:14 GMT
#749
On August 20 2011 04:05 AngryLlama wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ1otVpFA-k&feature=player_embedded

Rofl I was about to post this. Why did he go up and push Coentrao o.o
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 21:05:24
August 19 2011 21:04 GMT
#750
Yeah thats kinda mess up of Messi,

according to the tv reporters he said Coentrao was gonna go up to Messi because of what he did but Benzema kept both of them apart
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
August 19 2011 22:16 GMT
#751
On August 20 2011 06:04 ilj.psa wrote:
Yeah thats kinda mess up of Messi,

according to the tv reporters he said Coentrao was gonna go up to Messi because of what he did but Benzema kept both of them apart

I think he should have left it after Benzema broke them up, kind of dumb to keep provoking each other. Shit like this is why fights at the end of games happen -_-. No i'm not saying it's just Messi's fault, giving an example. I think referees should enforce fair play better and not let players do this.
Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
August 19 2011 22:40 GMT
#752
Lucky Messi isn't the kind of player to do things like this, eh?
You live the life you choose.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
August 19 2011 23:36 GMT
#753
On August 20 2011 07:40 Sanctimonius wrote:
Lucky Messi isn't the kind of player to do things like this, eh?


Im not to surprised, Messi has been on edge in Barca Real games for a while now.. or in general Barca-Mourinho games, If I got kicked around all day theres only so long I would just get and keep playing..
Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
August 20 2011 00:03 GMT
#754
No that's true, he's bound to have lashed out at some point. Pretty much every time he gets the ball he tends to draw fouls simply because of the amazing way he controls the ball. I just get annoyed that people put him on a pedestal and talk about him as if he never stoops to the level of other players in gamesmanship. He's the same as other players, not a saint.
You live the life you choose.
Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 08:53:04
August 20 2011 08:50 GMT
#755
On August 20 2011 08:36 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 07:40 Sanctimonius wrote:
Lucky Messi isn't the kind of player to do things like this, eh?

..., If I got kicked around all day theres only so long I would just get and keep playing..


Well, that's funny because Messi only received 4 fauls on the whole game. Maybe that's too much for you, but I have to disagree. If you put aside Marcelo and Mourinho's behaviour, RM did nothing to deserve the "fouling" bullshit. 18 vs 19 fouls according to the match stats. RM pressured up the field to deny Barça's play and it worked in both games. Of course, when you play that way you make bad tackles because you arrive late sometimes, EXACTLY the same happened to Barça where Xavi got booked and Iniesta and Alves should have also. Nothing to blame, just part of the game.

I hate so much the Marcelo incident because without that we would be talking about football, and in those two matches one team was better that the other in that matter.

Im tired of the black and white crap, theres no good and evil in this story. Both have their lights and their shadows.
I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
hns
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany609 Posts
August 20 2011 09:13 GMT
#756
100% agree Telemako, and I say this as a Barca fan. It is the bane of a "controlling" team that the other team may resort to fouls (as happened in the encounters of RM/Barca at the end of last season), which is not great, but, well, it's part of the game.
The one thing that feels sour for me is that fouls like the one Marcelo did may injure people, and badly so, and given the history with the the games from last season, I for myself really start to expect some kind of official reaction from RM/Mourinho. Maybe I just missed it, but it is really about time that Mourinho says something like that too harsh fouls, and especially too harsh fouls in the 93rd minute at the middle line, are NOT what he expects of his players. For me it's just the feeling that he approves and that's something which is hard to swallow.
ZerO, Action, Neo.G_Soulkey & FlaSh fanboy~~
Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1637 Posts
August 20 2011 09:30 GMT
#757
Yes, of course, I really hope Mourinho comes up and says something in that matter. If not, when the real victory comes (if it does) it won't feel as good because it will look as if everything was fine to achieve it.
I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
August 20 2011 09:38 GMT
#758
On August 20 2011 18:13 hns wrote:
100% agree Telemako, and I say this as a Barca fan. It is the bane of a "controlling" team that the other team may resort to fouls (as happened in the encounters of RM/Barca at the end of last season), which is not great, but, well, it's part of the game.
The one thing that feels sour for me is that fouls like the one Marcelo did may injure people, and badly so, and given the history with the the games from last season, I for myself really start to expect some kind of official reaction from RM/Mourinho. Maybe I just missed it, but it is really about time that Mourinho says something like that too harsh fouls, and especially too harsh fouls in the 93rd minute at the middle line, are NOT what he expects of his players. For me it's just the feeling that he approves and that's something which is hard to swallow.

He doesn't opnely say things like that about his players. He'll probably bench Marcelo like he did for the first half of the barca game until he starts to control his temper because he wants to play the whole game.
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 09:54:19
August 20 2011 09:52 GMT
#759
On August 20 2011 17:50 Telemako wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 08:36 Rebs wrote:
On August 20 2011 07:40 Sanctimonius wrote:
Lucky Messi isn't the kind of player to do things like this, eh?

..., If I got kicked around all day theres only so long I would just get and keep playing..


Well, that's funny because Messi only received 4 fauls on the whole game. Maybe that's too much for you, but I have to disagree. If you put aside Marcelo and Mourinho's behaviour, RM did nothing to deserve the "fouling" bullshit. 18 vs 19 fouls according to the match stats. RM pressured up the field to deny Barça's play and it worked in both games. Of course, when you play that way you make bad tackles because you arrive late sometimes, EXACTLY the same happened to Barça where Xavi got booked and Iniesta and Alves should have also. Nothing to blame, just part of the game.

I hate so much the Marcelo incident because without that we would be talking about football, and in those two matches one team was better that the other in that matter.

Im tired of the black and white crap, theres no good and evil in this story. Both have their lights and their shadows.


I just watched the recap of the games
but I really need to point out pepe's attempted tackle against alves
where after a cross or a corner he runs up to alves and goes in really stupidly (without ANY chance on the ball whatsoever)
he is so reckless
I really don't like tackles like these completely pointless without any tactical reason behind it
I mean he didn't really hit him, but this can end so ugly (like some of the Arsenal players have experienced)

edit: Ronaldo earned some major bonus points in this game for me of how he reacted in the end of the game when the quarrel started (as well as Iniesta I think)
both standing there watching the fight and thinking....not again
Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1637 Posts
August 20 2011 10:23 GMT
#760
On August 20 2011 18:52 Sadir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 17:50 Telemako wrote:
On August 20 2011 08:36 Rebs wrote:
On August 20 2011 07:40 Sanctimonius wrote:
Lucky Messi isn't the kind of player to do things like this, eh?

..., If I got kicked around all day theres only so long I would just get and keep playing..


Well, that's funny because Messi only received 4 fauls on the whole game. Maybe that's too much for you, but I have to disagree. If you put aside Marcelo and Mourinho's behaviour, RM did nothing to deserve the "fouling" bullshit. 18 vs 19 fouls according to the match stats. RM pressured up the field to deny Barça's play and it worked in both games. Of course, when you play that way you make bad tackles because you arrive late sometimes, EXACTLY the same happened to Barça where Xavi got booked and Iniesta and Alves should have also. Nothing to blame, just part of the game.

I hate so much the Marcelo incident because without that we would be talking about football, and in those two matches one team was better that the other in that matter.

Im tired of the black and white crap, theres no good and evil in this story. Both have their lights and their shadows.


but I really need to point out pepe's attempted tackle against alves
...
I really don't like tackles like these completely pointless without any tactical reason behind it
I mean he didn't really hit him, but this can end so ugly (like some of the Arsenal players have experienced)
...


How stopping a counter attack after a corner kick is not a tactical reason? When the centerbacks are in attack position? Pepe is too aggresive for my likes too, but he is just another football player and not the psycho killer some pretend.
I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
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