Yeah that was pretty bad. I also think of the field players only Huntelaar and van der Wiel played well. The rest far below their level with Sneijder very very disappointing which resulted in a few dumb fouls which got him a yellow card. And Braafheid should never be selected again haha.

Oh well, it's good that we lost to a good Germany today to temper the optimism. Great goals by Germany too. Second and third were a joy to watch.

Twisted

Netherlands13554 Posts

November 15 2011 21:46 GMT

#2162

Also fairly obvious that our team lacks depth when it comes to substitutions but that's normal when our population (compared to for example Germany) is 6-7 times less.

Holgerius

Sweden16951 Posts

November 15 2011 21:48 GMT

#2163

Fuuuuuuuuck, the streak is broken!

Sweden hasn't lost to England since 68, but now it happened. Sad moment...

zul

Germany5427 Posts

November 15 2011 21:51 GMT

#2164

ohh yeeaah. Germany played so good, I was wondering if this wasn`t Spain playing in the white shirts. wp!

DaCruise

Denmark2457 Posts

November 15 2011 21:53 GMT

#2165

Looks like we have 16 teams ready for next years EC then unless Portugal fucks up big time against Bosnia.

-Poland
-Ukraine
-Spain
-Netherlands
-Germany
-Italy
-England
-Russia
-Portugal
-Greece
-Croatia
-Czech Republic
-Sweden
-Denmark
-France
-Ireland

Now thats what I call stacked!

Holgerius

Sweden16951 Posts

November 15 2011 22:04 GMT

#2166

EC is always stacked.

There are never any easy games in it, unlike the WC.

ZeroCartin

Costa Rica2390 Posts

November 15 2011 22:05 GMT

#2167

Costa Rica winning against Spain 2-0 right now! :D I am speechless

Maenander

Germany4926 Posts

November 15 2011 23:08 GMT

#2168

Klose is 33 and he puts in one of the best performances I have ever seen from him, 2 assists and 1 goal, all of them brilliant. This man's consistency in the national team is just astonishing, remember he was one of the stars of the world cup 2002!

SkyTheUnknown

Germany2065 Posts

November 15 2011 23:32 GMT

#2169

Holy cow. I know that EuroCups tend to be stacked, but I have never seen as stacked as this one. There is not even a single team, which you could classify as a 'walkover'. I expect the results to be disgustingly unpredictable.

Malaz

Germany1257 Posts

November 16 2011 00:10 GMT

#2170

On November 16 2011 06:46 Twisted wrote:
Also fairly obvious that our team lacks depth when it comes to substitutions but that's normal when our population (compared to for example Germany) is 6-7 times less.

Yeah I think without any injurys the starting eleven would be quite similar skill wise. Both teams have great offensive players, only thing is that Germany has players like Gomez, Reus, Götze or Schürle still on the bench.
As far as the defences are concerned, I think both squads are a bit lackluster. I'm not a big fan of players like Mertesacker, Boateng or Aogo (ok Lahm will play left back at the EC). Same goes for the Netherlands. Braafheid is just bad, Matijsen is old and Heitinga isn't anything special either.

meatbox

Australia349 Posts

November 16 2011 00:10 GMT

#2171

On November 16 2011 07:05 ZeroCartin wrote:
Costa Rica winning against Spain 2-0 right now! :D I am speechless

HAHA

Malaz

Germany1257 Posts

November 16 2011 00:12 GMT

#2172

On November 16 2011 09:10 meatbox wrote:

Show nested quote +

HAHA

Game ended 2:2 :p

Maenander

Germany4926 Posts

November 16 2011 00:17 GMT

#2173

On November 16 2011 07:04 Holgerius wrote:
EC is always stacked.

There are never any easy games in it, unlike the WC.

This. I think people underestimate England and Italy, both teams have improved since the world cup and can now compete with the top3.
The dutch team might not get back to full strength, however. Van Bommel is too old, and Robben might never fully recover. I don't see them on par with Spain and Germany anymore.

meatbox

Australia349 Posts

November 16 2011 00:27 GMT

#2174

On November 16 2011 09:17 Maenander wrote:

Show nested quote +

Italy are strong, England are not capable of winning Euros, favourites are Germany at the moment imo but a lot can change in 8 months!

Balotelli, Pazzini and G.Rossi is a formidable forward line, not to mention Cassano. Ranocchia improving each game, Balzaretti is great at LB, plenty of candidates for RB, the midfield is terrible though... Marschisio is a hack, the sooner he is dropped the better...

don_kyuhote

3006 Posts

November 16 2011 02:23 GMT

#2175

I would like to see [Spain, Germany, Portugal, France] group in the Euro.

DaCruise

Denmark2457 Posts

November 16 2011 02:27 GMT

#2176

On November 16 2011 11:23 don_kyuhote wrote:
I would like to see [Spain, Germany, Portugal, France] group in the Euro.

And a group with Poland, Russia, Greece and Ireland.

don_kyuhote

3006 Posts

November 16 2011 02:30 GMT

#2177

Or you can have Spain, Italy, Portugal/Greece, Ireland and have a group of debt.

TranceStorm

1616 Posts

November 16 2011 02:37 GMT

#2178

On November 16 2011 07:04 Holgerius wrote:
EC is always stacked.

There are never any easy games in it, unlike the WC.

Yeah, every team has to give 100% of their attention to the group stages matches. I think the changes that will occur in 2016 where 24 teams will compete and with a round of 16 will diminish some of the competitiveness of the group stages given that 3rd place teams will have a good shot of qualifying for knockout stages as well.

claash

Poland472 Posts

November 16 2011 04:52 GMT

#2179

Spain or Germany will win the euro cup next year i guess..OR a typicall surprise team but i dont think so.

Sadir

Vatican City State1176 Posts

November 16 2011 06:05 GMT

#2180

On November 16 2011 11:30 don_kyuhote wrote:
Or you can have Spain, Italy, Portugal/Greece, Ireland and have a group of debt.

HAHAHHA

On November 16 2011 11:27 DaCruise wrote:
And a group with Poland, Russia, Greece and Ireland.