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Punkstar
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovakia522 Posts
May 30 2011 10:16 GMT
#41
Count me in too.Used to play at emperor lvl like a year ago, but hopefully still can manage not to suck
When in doubt, just drone up.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 05:42:37
May 30 2011 16:36 GMT
#42
Great turnset, Zulu.

I have a few questions:
Why did we make a pasture for the horses but no road + we don't have the population to work it? I'm guessing you made the pasture after AH came in, but had already moved the worker away before the wheel came in?
And why are we farming a square (the FP?) when we don't have the population to work the horse yet + the horse is not hooked up?

The only other things I would have done differently are grow Delhi to 5 at some point to work the horses and settle Vija 1N for the extra PH hammer + cow in the inner circle so it gets its infrastructure up a little bit faster. Also it gets an oasis then for a little bit more food. But this is mostly just nitpicking.

It looks like you used a chop 1N of Bombay, so I'm guessing it already has a monument? (great work!) The next player should probably throw a chop into Vija's monument and then get granaries up in both Vija and Bombay while Delhi makes a warrior for Vija.
Uff Da
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 04:06:27
May 31 2011 04:04 GMT
#43
Zulu, did you PM the next person?

Love the 2 other city placements, bombay while it does look like it can be commerce, I think it can be turn into a strong production site down the road when waterwheels are unlocked.

Biggest thing now though is what to do now? From what I remember in my play through, Egypt did not have any strategic resources (or if they do, its certainly not metal based). Which offers a unique situation where a holy city is perfect for the picking should we choose to start massing up axemen to hit isabella allowing us some more breathing room (We're organized, so we dont have to worry as much about upkeep. Best use that to our advantage).

Of course, we could also try to get a monopoly on alphabet, see what we can trade. Or skip it in favor of attempting to get TGL for Dehli.

"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 31 2011 20:31 GMT
#44
@ Qatol, like you said, I got AH before wheel so the horse isn't hooked up. I believe the worker is building a road to the gold so I can connect Bombay and Delhi, mostly for the workers, not so much for the resources which will be connected anyway with sailing. Agreed with both of your suggestions. I think at the time I was just focused on having as few ocean tiles as possible. Monument was chopped in Bombay.

@Energizer, sorry just PM'd beater after I got your PM. Bombay would need moai too and I'm not sure if there's enough food to support everything. There are so many neighbors on our continent we'll get into trouble for sure if we start a religion. Unless we do a COL slingshot, it would be difficult to start one anyway. I'm not too sure what we should do now, a GL seems possible but we're getting sailling pretty late.
prOxi.Beater
Profile Joined December 2008
Denmark626 Posts
May 31 2011 20:43 GMT
#45
I got the PM. I'll play my turns either late tonight or some time tomorrow.
Nobody beats the Beater
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
May 31 2011 21:24 GMT
#46
On June 01 2011 05:31 zulu_nation8 wrote:
@ Qatol, like you said, I got AH before wheel so the horse isn't hooked up. I believe the worker is building a road to the gold so I can connect Bombay and Delhi, mostly for the workers, not so much for the resources which will be connected anyway with sailing. Agreed with both of your suggestions. I think at the time I was just focused on having as few ocean tiles as possible. Monument was chopped in Bombay.

@Energizer, sorry just PM'd beater after I got your PM. Bombay would need moai too and I'm not sure if there's enough food to support everything. There are so many neighbors on our continent we'll get into trouble for sure if we start a religion. Unless we do a COL slingshot, it would be difficult to start one anyway. I'm not too sure what we should do now, a GL seems possible but we're getting sailling pretty late.



Whoop, shoulda been more clear, meant the great library, not lighthouse my bad lol.

and we wouldnt need to automatically switch once we take the holy city, but it would be a useful asset to try and get the other civies in on budda. Not to mention, the gold u can receive from a shine is usually nothing to scold at.

Really, its up to proxi to determine where we go from here. GL to you sir!
"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
May 31 2011 22:10 GMT
#47
Those citysites look good for endgame, but it has no resource in inner ring. I would have my focus on immediate gains rather than long term investment.
Act of thinking logically cannot possibly be natural to the human mind. If it were, then mathematics would be everybody's easiest course at school and our species would not have taken several millennia to figure out the scientific method -NDT
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 31 2011 23:37 GMT
#48
On June 01 2011 05:31 zulu_nation8 wrote:
@ Qatol, like you said, I got AH before wheel so the horse isn't hooked up. I believe the worker is building a road to the gold so I can connect Bombay and Delhi, mostly for the workers, not so much for the resources which will be connected anyway with sailing. Agreed with both of your suggestions. I think at the time I was just focused on having as few ocean tiles as possible. Monument was chopped in Bombay.

@Energizer, sorry just PM'd beater after I got your PM. Bombay would need moai too and I'm not sure if there's enough food to support everything. There are so many neighbors on our continent we'll get into trouble for sure if we start a religion. Unless we do a COL slingshot, it would be difficult to start one anyway. I'm not too sure what we should do now, a GL seems possible but we're getting sailling pretty late.

If we can get phants, elepult war looks pretty good from this position. But I'm guessing Isabella has the cow/ivory spot by now?

I guess we could consider a Horse Archer push too, though it is a little late for that. But if Isabella really doesn't have metals, Horse Archers would be a lot better than Axes due to the distance. Plus it transitions into elepult pretty well, especially if Isabella has taken the ivory spot.

I'm a little worried that we don't have much land to expand into, but it's hard to tell what we have to the SE from the screenshots. I'll be able to give everything a better look in 2 days. The decision to war really hinges on how much good land there is to settle. If we can expand a bit more, I am also a big fan of the Great Library.
Uff Da
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
June 01 2011 21:34 GMT
#49
I cant seem to open any of the save file. I have the bug mod, but that shouldnt be required... its giving me an error though. Weird.
Act of thinking logically cannot possibly be natural to the human mind. If it were, then mathematics would be everybody's easiest course at school and our species would not have taken several millennia to figure out the scientific method -NDT
Punkstar
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovakia522 Posts
June 02 2011 10:58 GMT
#50
On June 02 2011 06:34 NIJ wrote:
I cant seem to open any of the save file. I have the bug mod, but that shouldnt be required... its giving me an error though. Weird.

Was doing the same for me but then i downloaded the better BUG AI mod and its all fine.
link: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=354019
When in doubt, just drone up.
prOxi.Beater
Profile Joined December 2008
Denmark626 Posts
June 02 2011 16:11 GMT
#51
My plan going into my turns was simple: mass up a bunch of chariots/horse archers, conquer the barbarian city to the east which has elephants and then go for an elephant/catapult army.

After researching fishing I decided to go for horseback riding. I didn't realise at the time that you need archery to make horsemen, but we can still make stables while we wait for hunting and archery.

I whipped a sailing boat and a granary in Bombay and began construction of a library

I chopped out the monument in vijayagara (did I spell that right?) and began working on a barracks. I don't know if I should have made a granary instead, but it didn't strike me as a city where we would be doing a lot of whipping, so I went ahead with the barracks.

Delhi has grown to size 6 and spent most of the time crancking out chariots after I built a barracks.

Overall it was a pretty uneventful set of turns. Our scouting warrior survived getting attacked by a barbarian archer and a barbarian warrior poked around vijayagara before suiciding against the city walls. Gilgamesh also asked me to cancel relations with the Mali, but Mali is closer so I declined

Pictures:
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The save: http://www61.zippyshare.com/v/19199837/file.html

NIJ, you're up! PM has been sent
Nobody beats the Beater
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
June 03 2011 00:24 GMT
#52
I got the save. I took a look at it, but I'm still @ work. I might play tonight if I'm not tired. I'm already falling asleep here @ work... long day.

There's lot to do here. From what I glimpsed @. Here's my rough plan.

-Spain needs to be scouted. Idk why the warrior went so far, when we need intel on our immediate surrounding areas.

-Vija needs to be networked. Border pops is also inc. Much needed cause that city as of now is dead weight. Once special resources are worked it should get better.

-I'm also contemplating not going for eles and prepping with HAs asap. Want to take out spain asap while their power rating is low and small.

-which all means ill need more workers. There's not enough workers right now and I need to Network vijay, develop tiles there and chop/pre chop forests. Delhi's happy is capped so ill pump some out there until archery to ha spam.

-If I skip eles I probably won't go math either. Its inefficient chop, but time is crucial here. Also once we get archery I wanna start preparing for tech that can help maintain our size after war, so beelining to construction will further delay that. Both mali and spain has alpha. I'm gonna have to somehow workout a trade here (iirc I only saw hbr offerable tho). Don't wanna miss out on tech brokering.

Questions, comments, feedback, criticism? Make them before I finalizemy decision by tonight/tomorrow morning.
Act of thinking logically cannot possibly be natural to the human mind. If it were, then mathematics would be everybody's easiest course at school and our species would not have taken several millennia to figure out the scientific method -NDT
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 01:46:11
June 03 2011 17:29 GMT
#53
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I got my army prepared to take out spain. Scouted the barb city to find that there were stacks of archers defending the town and AI as usual stalking around like vultures. From there we meet a new civ.

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And Justinian does the work for us and gets us a new religion. I wait a bit before switching to not piss off Izzy.

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Plains mines scouted.... Oh yea shes got iron. I am going to hit fast with HAs though so hopefully she'll only have time for 1 or 2 spears.

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autosave right before the attack.
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War progress at my endturn

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Tech situation

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Stuff left to do:

-spread religion, switch to OR
-kill off spain
-Fill out vacant spots with cities / get barb city

The save
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B4Oy30X6L9r_MTUyNjZhMjAtODcyOS00MGI5LWE2NDAtYThhOTg5NTRlNGVk&hl=en_US
Act of thinking logically cannot possibly be natural to the human mind. If it were, then mathematics would be everybody's easiest course at school and our species would not have taken several millennia to figure out the scientific method -NDT
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
June 03 2011 19:22 GMT
#54
hard to criticize your turn, especially when we are doubling the size of our empire and leading in tech heheh.

to whoever plays next; I would strongly recommend sacking cordorba as its in a relatively useless spot with mountains covering its BFC. Seville on the other hand (from what I can see) seems to be in a excellent spot for a sugar city, and just further down we can settle over by the gems.

it doesn't appear that there is anyone that close to us either (at least to the point where we are fighting for border control), thus I think now would be a good time to spam out some cottage cities and as a hobby, working on splitting this hindi bloc so we arnt a target to any AI. Start pumping out those missionaries!

As far as tech path goes, wouldnt mind grabbing the great library after we finish currency. It would secure our tech lead and the GP point bonus is always nice to have then pick up monarchy for the happiness. Otherwise, we could just continue on with the military techs (mathematics/construction).

Also, please reupload the save on another site, google doesnt seem to be working for us (invalid link)
"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
June 03 2011 20:41 GMT
#55
oops the file was private by default. it should be fixed now.
Act of thinking logically cannot possibly be natural to the human mind. If it were, then mathematics would be everybody's easiest course at school and our species would not have taken several millennia to figure out the scientific method -NDT
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 04:56:25
June 03 2011 22:24 GMT
#56
I got the PM. I will be playing sometime this weekend, probably tomorrow.
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
June 04 2011 18:22 GMT
#57
It looks like I'm going to have to pass after all. This save seems to require the Better BUG AI mod, which crashes my version of the game when I try to load it. I have BUG loaded, so I don't understand what is going on.
Uff Da
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 19:05:42
June 04 2011 18:50 GMT
#58
Hello, i will start another game of Earth multiplayer on http://www.livestream.com/xfire_rodiel3
edit: last time sry :=)
http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiel3 SCBW FPVOD
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 19:03:49
June 04 2011 18:55 GMT
#59
On June 05 2011 03:22 Qatol wrote:
It looks like I'm going to have to pass after all. This save seems to require the Better BUG AI mod, which crashes my version of the game when I try to load it. I have BUG loaded, so I don't understand what is going on.


Did you try uninstalling the current version of bug mod then reinstalling with the better bug AI mod? Its the only thing I think that would fix that crash (unless its a hardware issue).

and I'm going to be looking more into this. I thought it was possible to play without the bug mod but apparently I was wrong. If I cant find a solution, then it will be a poll for the next succession game to play with or without the mod.

EDIT:
On June 05 2011 03:50 Rodiel2 wrote:
Hello, i will start another game of Earth multiplayer on http://www.livestream.com/xfire_rodiel3


Rodiel... Do not post in this thread for self-advertising if you please. This is a thread for our succession game, not someone's tool to promote stream viewers.
"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
June 04 2011 19:09 GMT
#60
On June 05 2011 03:55 Energizer wrote:
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On June 05 2011 03:22 Qatol wrote:
It looks like I'm going to have to pass after all. This save seems to require the Better BUG AI mod, which crashes my version of the game when I try to load it. I have BUG loaded, so I don't understand what is going on.


Did you try uninstalling the current version of bug mod then reinstalling with the better bug AI mod? Its the only thing I think that would fix that crash (unless its a hardware issue).

and I'm going to be looking more into this. I thought it was possible to play without the bug mod but apparently I was wrong. If I cant find a solution, then it will be a poll for the next succession game to play with or without the mod.

Yeah I tried that. It still crashes. I highly doubt this is a hardware issue. BUG still works fine (and I know you can play without BUG and with BUG just fine), but not Better BUG AI.
Uff Da
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