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VoidedWarranty
Profile Joined February 2014
42 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-01 16:59:58
March 01 2014 16:57 GMT
#1581
Thanks! Switched out my rpois robe for rc and rf, and am currently rampaging through elf:1. Is it just me, or is it way easier than spider? Also, is incredible resistance to magic good enough to avoid banishment?
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 01 2014 17:05 GMT
#1582
elf:1-2 is generally not terribly difficult but in exchange is very low-reward (unless you are specifically looking for a buckler)
the end vault is much more challenging, but also has pretty much the only actual reward
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VoidedWarranty
Profile Joined February 2014
42 Posts
March 01 2014 17:10 GMT
#1583
Mostly just trying to get more xp so I dont instadie in depths. This is really the first time I've come up against wizards like me, because the orcs kinda suck, and when I first found an ogre magi I was itching for an opportunity to test out OOD and just oneshotted it.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 01 2014 17:21 GMT
#1584
elf is not a good place to go for xp; the easy elves give little and the vault itself is not a good risk for the reward you get if you don't want the items
most likely your character doesn't even need more xp to begin with
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VoidedWarranty
Profile Joined February 2014
42 Posts
March 01 2014 18:32 GMT
#1585
By the way, I recently got a friend of mine into DCSS, and we were debating the relative difficulty of hell and pan. Which, in your opinion, is more difficult? I thought pan, but I may be wrong, and neither of us have any evidence to back up our claims.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 01 2014 19:11 GMT
#1586
Hells are significantly more difficult than pan for a majority of characters (though to be fair I don't know how difficult the new ds enemies are in pan). Pan is really pretty easy most of the time ... finding 1's outside of Gloorx's level is rare and almost always you can just leave quickly instead of dealing with them.

The only thing that makes hell easier at all is you are more free to leave.
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-01 20:03:24
March 01 2014 19:58 GMT
#1587
pan has the hardest unique bosses , can be hard to escape from(also if you meet a unique one and notice you cant kill him the rune is gone forever) and rnd panlords can have damn nasty spellcombos + tormenters. plus the rnd "enter new zone and spawn next to panlord and 9812354 monsters". oh and the fun levels with the orbs of draining evrywhere which are unkillable without smite targeting... but even with all that i dont think ive died in pan yet.

hell has the really annoying hell effectsthat can truly fuck you over

depends on char and rng imho.



thought yesterday why not play some and noticed i still had a Mifi of okawaru standing in lair on lantea. first god gift exec axe of chopping, yay! proceded to own lair and orc just to die at d20 or so to invis frederick cause i got cocky. wouldve been such an awesome char, already had a source for haste ,repel missiles etc for later.

today since i pretty much havent played since .12 i decided to give the gargoyle ago.

kk go monk and check things out. quickly notice stuff dies fast and that my ac is growing almost as fast. pick up chei ,kill more stuff and quickly go to mid dungeon. all fine till i again get cocky and then step from time (35% failure) fails on me.

well try again, find chei on d3 and a ring of slaying (!) +3/+7 quickly after. now just stomped through D till lair on :13,go lair.
oshit first hydra on l3 already, do some wand stuff, bend time... thing dies in 2 hits. meet 2 more hydras on the floor just to again 2 shot them.
continue and soon meet pack of death yaks in the open, damn ok lets see ofcourse hydras dont that scary when you have 30 ac with stoneskin. slouch bend time and just manfight them 3 at once. yay 50% hp surive so schtrong!
did lair till 7 and now just cleared orc against a orc4 evry other(nonchei) char wouldve had huge problems with. SHITTON of priests with some highpriests and saint roka with a band of again 5 priests. but thx to sloch oneshotting priests all went well. all of that in barely an hour destryoing things left and right.

point of story: go play gargoyles, go play gargoyle of chei. esp cause from what ive seen they got nerfed in trunk.




life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
VoidedWarranty
Profile Joined February 2014
42 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 20:04:31
March 02 2014 20:01 GMT
#1588
Currently working on a big project at school, but cleared out through elf:2, including a nasty vault filled with all sorts of higher level elves(annihilators, blademasters, death mages, etc) which I swiftness-animate dead- run to stairs- stairdanced to death. Also found a lovely artefact cloak of rf+ and dex+2. Latest dump here:+ Show Spoiler +
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-2723-gdc5d926 (tiles) character file.

Knut the Necromancer (Deep Elf Conjurer) Turns: 78454, Time: 09:09:30

HP 106/106 AC 11 Str 12 XL: 17 Next: 73%
MP 42/42 EV 31 Int 25 God: Kikubaaqudgha [******]
Gold 4362 SH 0 Dex 17 Spells: 13 memorised, 7 levels left

rFire + + + SeeInvis + t - +4,+6 demon blade
rCold + . . Clarity . z - +2 orc robe {rC+ rF+}
rNeg . . . Conserve + (no shield)
rPois . rCorr . b - +0 hat
rElec . rRot . v - +3 cloak of Pride {rF+ Dex+2}
SustAb . . Spirit . Q - +0 pair of gloves {rF+}
rMut . Warding . (no boots)
Saprov . . . Stasis . r - amulet of conservation
MR +++.. j - ring of see invisible
D - ring of Shaolin {EV+8}

@: extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, stealthy
A: horns 1, talons 2, repulsion field 1, thin metallic scales 1, carnivore 1,
clever 1, magic resistance 2, robust 1, strong 1
a: Receive Corpses, Torment, Renounce Religion
}: 1/15 runes: gossamer


You are on level 4 of the Orcish Mines.
You worship Kikubaaqudgha.
Kikubaaqudgha is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 37 of its levels.
You have also visited: Bailey and Volcano.

You have collected 4362 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
t - a +4,+6 demon blade (weapon)
Armour
b - a +0 hat (worn)
v - the +3 cloak of Pride (worn) {rF+ Dex+2}
(You found it on level 2 of the Elven Halls)

It affects your dexterity (+2).
It protects you from fire.
z - a +2 orcish robe of resistance (worn)
Q - a +0 pair of gloves of fire resistance (worn)
Magical devices
f - a wand of polymorph {zapped: 6}
h - a wand of random effects
k - a wand of frost
m - a wand of draining {zapped: 1}
q - a wand of fire {zapped: 4}
x - a wand of paralysis
A - a wand of polymorph {zapped: 1}
H - a wand of teleportation
J - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 2}
M - a wand of digging
Comestibles
o - 4 meat rations
p - 2 royal jellies
s - 4 pieces of ambrosia
G - an apple
Scrolls
i - 4 scrolls of remove curse
l - 2 scrolls of blinking
u - 4 scrolls of teleportation
y - 5 scrolls of identify
B - 3 scrolls of fear
C - a scroll of enchant armour
E - a scroll of fog
I - a scroll of enchant weapon I
P - 4 scrolls of magic mapping
Jewellery
c - an uncursed ring of ice
j - a ring of see invisible (right hand)
r - an amulet of conservation (around neck)
D - the ring of Shaolin (left hand) {EV+8}
(You found it on level 13 of the Dungeon)

[ring of evasion]
It affects your evasion (+8).
K - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
L - an uncursed ring of magical power
Potions
a - a potion of restore abilities
d - 2 potions of might
e - 5 potions of curing
g - a potion of mutation
R - a potion of resistance
Books
w - a book of Dreams

Spells Type Level
Ensorcelled Hibernation Hexes/Ice 2
Flight Charms/Air 3
Phase Shift Translocation 5
Shadow Creatures Summoning 5
Mass Confusion Hexes 6
Darkness Hexes 7
Miscellaneous
n - a phial of floods
F - a sack of spiders


Skills:
* Level 7.8 Fighting
- Level 6.2 Long Blades
* Level 12.2 Dodging
- Level 3.0 Stealth
- Level 0.1 Unarmed Combat
+ Level 19.2 Spellcasting
- Level 15.1 Conjurations
Level 10.3 Summonings
+ Level 19.3 Necromancy
- Level 6.5 Ice Magic


You have 7 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Magic Dart Conj #### 0% 1 None
b - Animate Dead Necr N/A 0% 4 None
c - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj #######. 1% 4 None
d - Iskenderun's Battles Conj/Chrm ######.. 1% 4 None
e - Dazzling Spray Conj/Hex ######.. 1% 3 None
f - Orb of Destruction Conj #######... 4% 7 #####..
g - Simulacrum Ice/Necr ######.... 1% 6 ###....
h - Sublimation of Blood Necr #######... 0% 2 None
i - Vampiric Draining Necr #######... 0% 3 None
j - Iron Shot Conj/Erth ######.... 17% 6 ###....
k - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ###... 3% 2 None
l - Swiftness Chrm/Air ###..... 3% 2 None
m - Regeneration Chrm/Necr ######.... 1% 3 None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (16/16) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (4/4) D:10
Elf (2/3) Orc:4 Lair (8/8) D Shoals (0/5) Lair:3
Spider (5/5) Lair:3 Slime (0/6) Lair:6 Vaults (0/5) D:15
Depths (1/6) D:16

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:8 [ D:16 = Orc:1 ( Orc:4 *=!/ Elf:2 *

Portals:
Trove: D:10 (give 19 potions of curing)


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have a pair of small horns on your head.
You have razor-sharp toenails.
You are surrounded by a mild repulsion field (EV +2).
You are partially covered in thin metallic scales (AC +2).
Your digestive system is specialised to digest meat.
Your mind is acute. (Int +2)
You are highly resistant to hostile enchantments.
You are robust (+10% HP).
Your muscles are strong. (Str +2)


Message History

A mysterious force pulls you upwards. The hatch slams shut behind you.
Move the cursor to view the level map, or type ? for a list of commands.
Returning to the game...
You see here 2 arrows.
Things that are here:
an elven long sword; an elven chain mail
Things that are here:
an elven scale mail; a runed elven long sword
Things that are here:
a runed elven short sword; an elven ring mail
You see here an elven cutlass.
Things that are here:
21 arrows; an uncursed elven short sword; an elven longbow
Things that are here:
an elven long sword; an elven ring mail; an elven dagger
There is a staircase back to the Mines, spattered with blood here.
You climb upwards. Welcome back to the Orcish Mines!
There is a staircase to the Elven Halls here.
Char dumped to 'morgue/Knut.txt'.
Saving game... please wait.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
2 deep elf blademasters (Elf:1)
A storm dragon (shapeshifter) (D:15)
Frances (Spider:4)
Donald (Spider:2)
2 deep elf sorcerers
2 emperor scorpions (Spider:5)
Jorgrun (Spider:4)
A stone giant (D:15)
A deep elf demonologist (Elf:1)
A deep elf annihilator (Elf:1)
Azrael (Spider:2)
An ettin (Orc:4)
2 fire dragons (D:15)
2 deep elf death magi (Elf:1)
An ice dragon (D:16)
An ogre mage (Orc:4)
7 hydras
Harold (D:10)
3 unseen horrors
Erica (D:10)
A spectral elf (Elf:1)
Urug (D:12)
2 orc high priests (Orc:4)
4 centaur warriors
An iron troll (D:15)
3 orc knights (Orc:4)
13 deep elf knights
A skeletal warrior (D)
10 deep elf summoners
7 orb spiders
4 lindwurms (Lair:3)
4 hill giants
Pikel (D:6)
A lindwurm (shapeshifter) (Elf:2)
10 deep elf conjurers
15 wolf spiders
4 orc sorcerers
2 red wasps
5 griffons
4 cyclopes
A manticore (D:16)
2 black mambas
An elephant (Lair:7)
A moth of wrath (Spider:4)
8 spiny frogs
3 demonic crawlers
A small abomination (Elf:1)
A hellwing (D:11)
3 komodo dragons
10 deep elf priests
10 jumping spiders
2 two-headed ogres
A spriggan (D:7)
A hydra skeleton (D:13)
10 trolls
Prince Ribbit (D:7)
13 slime creatures
2 griffon zombies
A baby alligator (shapeshifter) (Elf:1)
25 ugly things
3 basilisks
2 shadows (D:14)
A grizzly bear (Lair:7)
24 redbacks
8 blink frogs
12 trapdoor spiders
A trapdoor spider (shapeshifter) (D:15)
2 hogs (Volcano)
A wyvern (D:14)
14 tarantellas
2 hill giant zombies (D:13)
7 sharks
4 hungry ghosts
A fire elemental (Lair:8)
A formicid (Spider:2)
10 vampire mosquitoes
3 wraiths
15 deep elf magi
2 hill giant skeletons (D:14)
3 vampires
12 hippogriffs
2 fire bats (Lair:8)
33 yaks
An elf skeleton (D:15)
26 deep elf fighters
18 wolves
11 necrophages
4 mottled dragons
A centaur simulacrum (D:16)
4 hell hounds (Spider:2)
A soldier ant (D:14)
A slave (D:6)
33 orc warriors
8 porcupines
5 ice beasts
5 sky beasts
11 ogres
7 centaurs
A phantom (D)
2 yellow wasps
3 black bears
A manticore skeleton (D:15)
2 rotting devils (D:15)
10 crocodiles
A griffon simulacrum (D:14)
2 lava worms (Lair:8)
A lost soul (Elf:1)
3 wargs
Duvessa (D:6)
A boring beetle (Lair:8)
27 giant frogs
5 giant slugs
A big kobold (D:15)
A silver statue (D:11)
10 water moccasins
A gnoll sergeant (D:12)
2 cyclops zombies
5 agate snails
2 cyclops skeletons (D:16)
A wyvern skeleton (D:12)
A hippogriff zombie (D:13)
5 killer bees (D:15)
3 eyes of draining
9 electric eels
22 wights
4 goliath beetles
3 lava snakes (Lair:8)
2 quasits
11 crimson imps
A jelly (D)
Dowan (D:6)
A basilisk zombie (D:15)
An elf zombie (D:15)
A giant frog zombie (D:7)
9 hounds
30 orc priests
3 giant frog skeletons
18 spiders
3 big fish
3 centaur skeletons
A two-headed ogre zombie (D:13)
14 worker ants
26 orc wizards
Natasha (thrice) (D:4)
7 iguanas
12 scorpions
2 orange rats (Elf:2)
A boulder beetle simulacrum (D:16)
2 big kobold zombies
15 sheep
A mottled dragon zombie (D:15)
Ijyb (D:2)
An ogre skeleton (D:8)
A hound skeleton (D:8)
30 adders
5 giant centipedes
17 gnolls
14 green rats
A giant mite (D:3)
11 worms
An ufetubus (D:11)
An iguana zombie (D:6)
2 orc zombies
A scorpion zombie (D:8)
2 giant eyeballs
10 giant geckos
An ooze (D:2)
180 orcs
22 bats
A bat skeleton (D:5)
2 giant cockroaches (D:2)
25 hobgoblins
10 jackals
38 kobolds
13 quokkas
A ball python (D:1)
11 giant newts
2 giant spores
41 goblins
2 orc skeletons
29 rats
A rat skeleton (D:7)
10 ballistomycetes
A fungus (Lair:4)
2 plants (Lair:7)
1312 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
Asterion (D:15)
Maud (Lair:3)
3 ghost moths (Spider:5)
2 emperor scorpions (Spider:5)
Gastronok (Orc:3)
A fire dragon (D:16)
A large abomination (Lair:2)
A deep elf death mage (Elf:1)
A yaktaur captain (D:16)
3 hydras
Nessos (Orc:4)
A centaur warrior (D:15)
3 orc high priests (Orc:4)
Nergalle (Orc:3)
2 skeletal warriors (D)
7 orb spiders
A hill giant (D:14)
A necromancer (D:15)
17 wolf spiders
2 orc knights (Orc:4)
A deep elf conjurer (Elf:1)
An oklob plant (Lair:7)
An orc sorcerer (Orc:2)
A griffon (Lair:8)
A stone golem (D:15)
A cyclops (D:15)
3 elephants (Lair:7)
A black mamba (Lair:8)
8 red wasps
2 trolls
3 spiny frogs
10 demonic crawlers
A centaur skeleton (D:11)
A centaur zombie (D:14)
2 komodo dragons
A deep elf priest (Elf:1)
13 jumping spiders
A two-headed ogre (Orc:4)
A trapdoor spider zombie (Spider:5)
A tarantella zombie (Spider:2)
7 slime creatures
14 blink frogs
A boulder beetle (Spider:4)
26 redbacks
18 trapdoor spiders
A deep elf mage (Elf:1)
2 fire bats (Lair:8)
6 ugly things
13 sharks
A basilisk (Lair:1)
17 yaks
A wyvern (Lair:5)
A wraith (D:7)
16 tarantellas
2 deep elf fighters (Elf:1)
A neqoxec (Orc:4)
A centaur simulacrum (D:16)
A soldier ant (D:13)
3 hell hounds (Spider:2)
A necrophage (Lair:6)
23 orc warriors
7 porcupines
An ice beast (D:14)
A manticore zombie (D:13)
A black bear (D:11)
An ogre (Orc:3)
8 giant goldfish
7 crocodiles
9 giant frogs
2 giant slugs
2 lava worms (Lair:8)
A water moccasin (Lair:2)
2 ugly thing skeletons (D:13)
3 agate snails
A cyclops zombie (D:13)
A yaktaur skeleton (D:14)
A hippogriff zombie (D:13)
5 wights
A yak zombie (D:13)
A troll skeleton (D:13)
A shapeshifter (D:13)
2 hippogriff skeletons (D:13)
4 hounds
2 electric eels
A lava snake (Lair:8)
2 goliath beetles
2 crimson imps
28 spiders
3 big fish
A black bear (shapeshifter) (D:13)
27 orc priests
A basilisk skeleton (D:13)
16 orc wizards
3 scorpions
3 worker ants
An iguana (Lair:4)
5 sheep (Lair:5)
2 adders
2 giant centipedes (Lair:2)
A green rat (Lair:2)
A giant mite (Spider:1)
4 ufetubi (Elf:1)
A giant eyeball (D:14)
2 giant geckos
86 orcs
A bat zombie (D:8)
4 goblins
A hobgoblin (D)
6 jackals (Lair:2)
4 quokkas
6 bats
A giant newt (Lair:2)
An orc skeleton (Orc:3)
2 orc zombies
4 rats
5 ballistomycetes (D:16)
A butterfly (Lair:5)
A fungus (Lair:5)
5 plants
561 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
13 large abominations
A deep elf knight (Elf:1)
A sphinx zombie (D:15)
15 wolf spider zombies
4 small abominations
A yaktaur zombie (D:16)
16 redback zombies
3 demonic crawler zombies
13 trapdoor spider zombies
11 jumping spider zombies (Spider:5)
8 tarantella zombies
6 red wasp zombies
An ettin skeleton (Orc:4)
10 elf zombies (Elf:1)
A hog (Volcano)
An ugly thing skeleton (D:16)
An agate snail zombie (Lair:6)
5 orb spider zombies
A slave (D:6)
A blink frog zombie (D:15)
A human (D:7)
2 ice beasts
2 centaurs (Volcano)
A giant frog (D:16)
A giant slug zombie (D:13)
4 yak zombies
A giant goldfish zombie (Lair:1)
A yak skeleton (Lair:1)
10 fulminant prisms
2 centaur zombies
A two-headed ogre zombie (Orc:4)
3 spiders
3 giant frog skeletons
2 elf skeletons (Elf:1)
A worker ant (D:8)
An orc wizard (D:6)
A hound zombie (D:15)
9 spider zombies
2 hound skeletons (D)
2 goliath beetle zombies (Spider:3)
A giant centipede zombie (Lair:1)
An iguana zombie (Lair:1)
10 orc skeletons
2 scorpion zombies (Spider:5)
2 sheep skeletons (D:14)
5 orcs (D:6)
A bat skeleton (D:7)
A bat zombie (D:16)
2 jackals (D:6)
6 giant spores
A goblin skeleton (D:7)
2 hobgoblin skeletons
A hobgoblin zombie (D:15)
3 jackal zombies (Lair:1)
A kobold skeleton (D:6)
5 orc zombies
A quokka skeleton (D:8)
A quokka zombie (Lair:1)
A rat zombie (Lair:1)
6 ballistomycetes (D:16)
14 crawling corpses
2 fungi
4 macabre masses
4 plants
240 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2113 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | Knut, the Deep Elf Conjurer, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 5/5
152 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 6/8
487 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
816 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 8/11
988 | D:2 | Noticed Ijyb
1076 | D:2 | Killed Ijyb
1349 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 12/14
1735 | D:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Searing Ray
1750 | D:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast
2686 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/28 MP: 13/18
2932 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
2932 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Conjurations
3446 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 27/32 MP: 13/21
3528 | D:4 | Noticed Natasha
3533 | D:4 | Killed Natasha
3705 | D:4 | Noticed Natasha
3707 | D:4 | Killed Natasha
4384 | D:4 | Noticed Natasha
4389 | D:4 | Killed Natasha
4579 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
4694 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting
4711 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 27/36 MP: 4/25
4922 | D:5 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting
5256 | D:5 | You fall through a shaft for 3 floors!
5506 | D:8 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 8/28
5606 | D:8 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting
6108 | D:7 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
6114 | D:7 | Became a worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha
6122 | D:7 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Battlesphere
6146 | D:7 | Learned a level 3 spell: Dazzling Spray
6152 | D:7 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fulminant Prism
6168 | D:6 | Noticed Dowan
6171 | D:6 | Noticed Duvessa
6172 | D:6 | Killed Dowan
6180 | D:6 | Killed Duvessa
6721 | D:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
6912 | D:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
7052 | D:5 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 45/45 MP: 17/30
7251 | D:6 | Noticed Pikel
7268 | D:6 | Killed Pikel
7417 | D:6 | Acquired Kikubaaqudgha's first power
7417 | D:6 | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha
7417 | D:6 | Reached skill level 11 in Conjurations
7460 | D:6 | Identified Kikubaaqudgha's Incunabulum of Sinister Secrets (Kikubaaqudgha gifted it to you on level 6 of the Dungeon)
7466 | D:6 | Learned a level 1 spell: Animate Skeleton
7469 | D:6 | Learned a level 2 spell: Sublimation of Blood
7473 | D:6 | Learned a level 3 spell: Vampiric Draining
7726 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy
8096 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
8128 | D:7 | Noticed Prince Ribbit
8185 | D:7 | Killed Prince Ribbit
8357 | D:7 | Noticed a spriggan baker
8375 | D:7 | Killed a spriggan baker
8396 | D:7 | Learned a level 4 spell: Control Undead
8536 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy
8926 | D:8 | Noticed a hill giant
8948 | D:8 | Killed a hill giant
8948 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 50/50 MP: 15/32
8949 | D:8 | Acquired Kikubaaqudgha's second power
8965 | D:8 | Noticed a cyclops
9116 | D:8 | Noticed a cyclops
9130 | D:8 | Killed a cyclops
9161 | D:8 | Noticed a wraith
9364 | D:7 | Killed a wraith
9484 | D:8 | Killed a cyclops
9742 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting
9754 | D:8 | Found Crapse's Armour Boutique.
9782 | D:8 | Noticed a four-headed hydra
9786 | D:8 | Killed a four-headed hydra
9920 | D:8 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
9927 | D:8 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
9927 | D:8 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
9927 | D:8 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
9928 | D:8 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
9932 | D:8 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
10616 | D | Noticed a skeletal warrior
10616 | D | Noticed a skeletal warrior
10616 | D | Noticed a skeletal warrior
10640 | D | Killed a skeletal warrior
10654 | D | Killed a skeletal warrior
10659 | D | Killed a skeletal warrior
11160 | D | Found a staircase to the Lair.
11438 | D | Identified a scroll of acquirement
11439 | D | Identified Deepi's Catalogue of Sinister Secrets and Beguiling (You acquired it on level 9 of the Dungeon)
11466 | D | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 3 turns
11494 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
11614 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 29/34
11760 | D:10 | Noticed Erica
11767 | D:10 | Killed Erica
11767 | D:10 | Reached skill level 10 in Necromancy
11906 | D:10 | Learned a level 5 spell: Twisted Resurrection
12045 | D:10 | Noticed a large abomination
12359 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
12369 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
12532 | Orc:1 | a large abomination (ally) was killed
12634 | Orc:1 | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha
12635 | Orc:1 | Identified Kikubaaqudgha's Grimoire of Black Secrets (Kikubaaqudgha gifted it to you on level 1 of the Orcish Mines)
12941 | Orc:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting
12964 | Orc:1 | Noticed a large abomination
13399 | Orc:2 | Found a flagged portal.
13463 | Bailey | Entered a bailey
13759 | Bailey | Acquired Kikubaaqudgha's third power
14415 | Orc:2 | Noticed Knut's ghost (powerful DECj)
14427 | Orc:2 | Killed Knut's ghost
15039 | Orc:1 | Acquired Kikubaaqudgha's fourth power
15080 | Orc:2 | Noticed a large abomination
15607 | D:7 | Learned a level 4 spell: Animate Dead
15889 | D:10 | Noticed Harold
15897 | D:10 | Killed Harold
15898 | D:10 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
17788 | D:11 | HP: 1/54 [yak (13)]
18627 | D:7 | Learned a level 7 spell: Orb of Destruction
19534 | Orc:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 59/59 MP: 15/36
19632 | Orc:3 | Noticed Nergalle
19639 | Orc:3 | Killed Nergalle
19641 | Orc:3 | Noticed Gastronok
19653 | Orc:3 | Killed Gastronok
19757 | Orc:3 | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting
20688 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
20692 | Orc:4 | Noticed Nessos
20700 | Orc:4 | Killed Nessos
20817 | Orc:4 | Noticed an ogre mage
20819 | Orc:4 | Killed an ogre mage
20963 | Orc:4 | Noticed an ettin
20969 | Orc:4 | Killed an ettin
21310 | Orc:4 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
23530 | Orc:1 | Found Shriom's Antique Weapon Boutique.
24375 | Orc:4 | a large abomination (ally) was killed
24701 | Orc:4 | a large abomination (ally) was killed
25024 | D:7 | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha
25277 | D:7 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in thin metallic scales (AC +2). [potion of beneficial mutation]
25325 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
25459 | D:12 | Noticed a four-headed hydra
25467 | D:12 | Killed a four-headed hydra
25694 | D:11 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting
25987 | D:12 | Reached skill level 15 in Necromancy
26077 | D:12 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 63/63 MP: 26/37
26641 | D:12 | Noticed Urug
26649 | D:12 | Killed Urug
27390 | D:7 | Got an opalescent robe
27400 | D:7 | Identified the +1 robe "Thraffur" {rPois Str+4} (You acquired it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
27527 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
29206 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 16 in Necromancy
30223 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 6 spell: Simulacrum
30780 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic
31528 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations
31860 | Lair:3 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
32074 | Lair:3 | Noticed Maud
32086 | Lair:3 | Killed Maud
32617 | Lair:3 | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
33575 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades
33897 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 68/68 MP: 36/39
36500 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
37095 | Lair:5 | Found a dark tunnel.
37100 | Volcano | Entered a volcano
38071 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 17 in Necromancy
39306 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
40285 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades
41328 | Lair:7 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
41470 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
44795 | D:7 | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Ice Beast
45199 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
46652 | Orc:4 | Found Jirad's General Store.
46653 | Orc:4 | Found Esipheesm's Distillery.
46653 | Orc:4 | Found Eklufit's Jewellery Shoppe.
46654 | Orc:4 | Found Grant's Magical Wand Shoppe.
47491 | D:13 | Gained mutation: You have sharp toenails. [mutagenic meat]
47897 | D:13 | Noticed a bone dragon
47946 | D:13 | HP: 2/68 [giant frog skeleton (2)]
48885 | D:13 | Gained mutation: You are resistant to hostile enchantments. [mutagenic meat]
50068 | D:14 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 59/72 MP: 16/40
50465 | D:13 | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
50910 | D:14 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
50913 | D:14 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
51482 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
51803 | D:15 | Noticed Asterion
51811 | D:15 | Killed Asterion
51811 | D:15 | Reached skill level 18 in Necromancy
54606 | D:15 | Paralysed by a yellow wasp for 3 turns
54611 | D:15 | Noticed a storm dragon
55084 | D:7 | Gained mutation: You have razor-sharp toenails. [potion of mutation]
55084 | D:7 | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +2) [potion of mutation]
55085 | D:7 | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong. (Str +2) [potion of mutation]
55085 | D:7 | Gained mutation: Your digestive system is specialised to digest meat. [potion of mutation]
55085 | D:7 | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head. [potion of mutation]
55517 | D:15 | Found a gate to the Vaults.
55526 | D:15 | Gained mutation: You are robust (+10% HP). [potion of mutation]
55526 | D:15 | Gained mutation: You are highly resistant to hostile enchantments. [potion of mutation]
55607 | D:15 | Killed a storm dragon
57523 | D:16 | Entered Level 16 of the Dungeon
57547 | D:16 | Found Kayhuis' Jewellery Boutique.
58679 | D:16 | Reached skill level 10 in Summonings
59952 | D:16 | Found a staircase to the Depths.
60480 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths
60713 | D:7 | Learned a level 6 spell: Iron Shot
60716 | D:7 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
60719 | D:7 | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness
60723 | D:7 | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
60834 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
60853 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
61220 | Spider:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 86/88 MP: 25/41
61610 | Spider:2 | Noticed Azrael
61675 | Spider:1 | HP: 4/88 [poisoned by a redback]
62269 | Spider:2 | Killed Azrael
62634 | Spider:2 | Noticed Donald
62640 | Spider:2 | Killed Donald
62640 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
65862 | Spider:4 | Noticed Frances
65869 | Spider:4 | Killed Frances
66165 | Spider:4 | Noticed Jorgrun
66169 | Spider:4 | Killed Jorgrun
67103 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest
67455 | Spider:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
67832 | D:7 | Gained mutation: You are surrounded by a mild repulsion field (EV +2). [potion of mutation]
69191 | Spider:5 | HP: 2/96 [wolf spider (11)]
70824 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
71070 | Spider:5 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 102/102 MP: 29/42
72055 | Elf:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
72569 | Elf:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
72851 | Elf:1 | Reached skill level 19 in Necromancy
76322 | Elf:2 | Found Graexiss' Assorted Antiques.
76614 | Elf:2 | Got a smoking cloak
76619 | Elf:2 | Identified the +3 cloak of Pride {rF+ Dex+2} (You found it on level 2 of the Elven Halls)



Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed | 11 | | | 17 | 80 | 7 || 115
Staff | | 6 | 41 | 16 | 4 | || 67
Demon blade | | | | | 165 | 67 || 232
Cast: Magic Dart | 69 | 150 | 211 | 601 | 951 | 450 || 2432
Iskenderun's Myst | | 23 | 59 | 221 | 534 | 244 || 1081
Searing Ray | | 1 | 3 | 2 | | || 6
Iskenderun's Batt | | | 8 | 66 | 128 | 78 || 280
Animate Skeleton | | | 12 | 17 | | || 29
Dazzling Spray | | | 3 | 7 | 97 | 22 || 129
Fulminant Prism | | | 2 | 8 | | || 10
Vampiric Draining | | | 2 | 34 | 10 | 10 || 56
Control Undead | | | 1 | 21 | | || 22
Twisted Resurrect | | | | 47 | 64 | || 111
Sublimation of Bl | | | | 20 | 11 | || 31
Orb of Destructio | | | | 18 | 33 | 32 || 83
Animate Dead | | | | 8 | 23 | 32 || 63
Simulacrum | | | | | 18 | 7 || 25
Summon Ice Beast | | | | | 4 | || 4
Iron Shot | | | | | | 4 || 4
Swiftness | | | | | | 3 || 3
Regeneration | | | | | | 1 || 1
Invok: Receive Corpses | | | | 5 | 20 | 9 || 34
Evoke: Wand | | | | 4 | 8 | 4 || 16
Deck | | | | | 3 | || 3
Sack of spiders | | | | | 2 | 1 || 3
Fan of gales | | | | | 1 | || 1
Stone of tremors | | | | | 1 | || 1
Use: Scroll | | 11 | 7 | 11 | 23 | 3 || 55
Potion | | | | 11 | 10 | 7 || 28
Stab: Sleeping | | | 1 | | 2 | || 3
Distracted | | | | | 3 | 1 || 4
Invisible | | | | | 1 | 1 || 2


EDIT: Does anyone here play angband? I have been thinking of trying other roguelikes, such as nethack, angband, etc. Does anyone have any other faves, or wish to dissuade me from one of them?
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 20:35:23
March 02 2014 20:22 GMT
#1589
Please use [*code][/code] (without the*) to share your dump. You can also cut out everything after message history, takes room and is useless. Even the message history isn't that useful in your situation.

Training wise, I would stop training spellcasting (probably forever). Why are you training Necromancy so high ? If you want to cast Death's door it would be better XP wise to get some charms skill instead. Your defensive skills are still a bit low, I would focus on that, and that only. I almost never train more than 2 skills at once, most often only 1, to get where I want the quickest. And that's not only me, most players do it that way.

If you cleared Elf:2 and managed to handle the nasty elves, you can plan on doing Elf:3 at some point (after Shoals for exemple). It's pretty much the same, except the vault is bigger :D But you may get a lot out of the loot, mostly you lack some form of Haste (wand, or better, spell). There usually is a lot of books, enhancer staves and such.
VoidedWarranty
Profile Joined February 2014
42 Posts
March 02 2014 20:36 GMT
#1590
I am afraid I don't know what you are talking about in terms of the little white box. Also, what would you advise as an alternate to spellcasting and necromancy, just in general?
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
March 02 2014 20:51 GMT
#1591
Yeah I hit post by mistake. Edited now.
As for the alternative to Necro etc, you don't really need one. Your offense is fine. It's ok to train only defense for a while.
VoidedWarranty
Profile Joined February 2014
42 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 21:43:30
March 02 2014 20:57 GMT
#1592
Alright, thanks for the advice.
EDIT: Elf is five levels, yes? If so, then why is 3 considered the hardest, rather than 5?
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 02 2014 21:43 GMT
#1593
DoomRL is very good, it does a nice job of avoiding some of the more common roguelike tropes that exist for no good reason (identification, hidden traps, poison to name a few). It doesn't have as much replayability as crawl and its special levels are a shining example of everything I hate about predefined levels in roguelikes but on the whole it's quite fun.

##crawl likes Sil, I haven't played it.
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VoidedWarranty
Profile Joined February 2014
42 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 22:32:25
March 02 2014 22:11 GMT
#1594
Question: Is mass abjuration worthwhile for a three-rune, or is it only useful for extended endgame?
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 22:19:40
March 02 2014 22:16 GMT
#1595
If you are casting summoning spells, learn mass abj.

If you are not, do not.

edit:
EDIT: Elf is five levels, yes?

no
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VoidedWarranty
Profile Joined February 2014
42 Posts
March 03 2014 01:35 GMT
#1596
Anyone know why the DCSS site is down?
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 03 2014 01:37 GMT
#1597
<Sequell> is cdo down[1/2]: Yes, a server move is underway. It will be back Real Soon Now (probably by the end of the 1st week in March).
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VoidedWarranty
Profile Joined February 2014
42 Posts
March 04 2014 16:15 GMT
#1598
So, after trying out a few other roguelikes, such as angband, ToME, ADOM, nethack, and df adventurer mode, DCSS is my favorite atm. I have not gotten far enough into the others to know that much about them, but DCSS is the right mix of difficulty, accessibility and replayability that makes it my favorite. Also, autoexploring. Back to the shoals I go!
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
March 04 2014 18:32 GMT
#1599
On March 05 2014 01:15 VoidedWarranty wrote:
So, after trying out a few other roguelikes, such as angband, ToME, ADOM, nethack, and df adventurer mode, DCSS is my favorite atm. I have not gotten far enough into the others to know that much about them, but DCSS is the right mix of difficulty, accessibility and replayability that makes it my favorite. Also, autoexploring. Back to the shoals I go!


Yeah I think it's the greatest all around roguelike... some do certain things better, but for the whole package Crawl stand way above the rest.
VoidedWarranty
Profile Joined February 2014
42 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 19:16:34
March 04 2014 19:12 GMT
#1600
DCSS is also in my opinion the roguelike that best balances difficulty with fairness. I was playing Unnethack as an orc convict, took two steps, fell into a pit, and had the ball on my ankle crush my skull. In DCSS, I have felt that every single death I have had(many) have been completely avoidable in retrospect, such as NOT running head on into some unique to figure out what they can do. Others, like ToME, seem quite easy in comparison to DCSS, and therefore do not interest me nearly as much. It may be bias, as I started with DCSS, but it definitely is the one that appeals to me the most.
Also, in a more "Save me from my ignorance" tone, would you consider a +5, +9 artefact falchion of (slice, +blink, relec, rpois, rc+) better than a +4, +6 demon blade? In terms of pure numbers, the falchion is slightly outdamaged, but I do not know how good slice is and the resists seem completely worth it to me.
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