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APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
February 29 2012 23:31 GMT
#1001
What's the explanation on the 50,000 years thing? How can it possibly be that short of a time span?
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
February 29 2012 23:46 GMT
#1002
On March 01 2012 08:31 APurpleCow wrote:
What's the explanation on the 50,000 years thing? How can it possibly be that short of a time span?


Umm IIRC in the game in it's said that that's roughly the amount of time needed for planets to regenerate minerals and new species to develop space travel and find the Citadel.
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 01 2012 03:11 GMT
#1003
Woot preordered the Digital Deluxe version. Time for a ME marathon to create a new save!

Also, about the 50K years, since the reapers only kill intelligent life, it's actually quite reasonable to assume evolution and civilization over such a period.

(monkeys are not intelligent)
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ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
March 01 2012 10:08 GMT
#1004
On March 01 2012 03:51 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I'm so stoked for Mass Effect 3 it isn't even funny.

I'm going to re-start from 1 starting tonight to make sure all my little details are correct.

The only thing I haven't done is gotten the Shadow Broker DLC for ME:2. I'm contemplating getting it, do you guys think it's worth it?

Aside from the corny music it's the best Mass Effect 2 DLC.
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
March 01 2012 10:25 GMT
#1005
They probably got 50 000 from real history. 50 000 years ago was the switch from middle paleolithic age to upper paleolithic, which is right dab in the stoneage. If there were more intelligent beings on earth which disappeared at that time, there's no way that would be recorded to this day. 50 000 years ago today is about the first time when humans started to make proper stone tools which weren't completely unsofisticated and stopped living like monkeys.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 01 2012 11:24 GMT
#1006
On March 01 2012 19:08 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 03:51 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I'm so stoked for Mass Effect 3 it isn't even funny.

I'm going to re-start from 1 starting tonight to make sure all my little details are correct.

The only thing I haven't done is gotten the Shadow Broker DLC for ME:2. I'm contemplating getting it, do you guys think it's worth it?

Aside from the corny music it's the best Mass Effect 2 DLC.


Corny?? It was the best music in the whole game, excepting the Suicide Mission soundtrack.
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Sitinte
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States499 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 12:50:12
March 01 2012 12:50 GMT
#1007
Repent, the end is nigh!
Seriously. wtf. I prefer my nice and tame indoctrinated Cerberus enemies now.

lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
March 01 2012 13:16 GMT
#1008
What in the hell is that...?
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 13:44:28
March 01 2012 13:42 GMT
#1009
On March 01 2012 22:16 lynx.oblige wrote:
What in the hell is that...?


An Asari husk. You can tell by it's head tentacles. Also why the hell were there so many of them? I got the impression they were supposed to be elite units like phantoms...?
And holy batman, they shoot homing missiles.
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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
March 01 2012 13:47 GMT
#1010
I've never seen them in like ~9 hours of play. This is apparently on bronze too wth? I've played like 1/3rd of my play time on above bronze and still haven't seen one.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
March 01 2012 14:01 GMT
#1011
On March 01 2012 22:47 lynx.oblige wrote:
I've never seen them in like ~9 hours of play. This is apparently on bronze too wth? I've played like 1/3rd of my play time on above bronze and still haven't seen one.


Thing is they don't come with Cerberus waves. I assume they are supposed to be assigned to the "Husks" waves in the full version.
Someone probably hacked the game, or pulled some file up deep from the demo, to get to these. They are not normally supposed to be available I think. Unless it's some easter-egg ultra rare spawn.
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Hantak
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile59 Posts
March 01 2012 14:27 GMT
#1012
guess ill be shooting rocket launchers to the ground to hit all of these too now :S

Seems seek though
It's getting too hot.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
March 01 2012 16:50 GMT
#1013
On March 01 2012 19:25 Tobberoth wrote:
They probably got 50 000 from real history. 50 000 years ago was the switch from middle paleolithic age to upper paleolithic, which is right dab in the stoneage. If there were more intelligent beings on earth which disappeared at that time, there's no way that would be recorded to this day. 50 000 years ago today is about the first time when humans started to make proper stone tools which weren't completely unsofisticated and stopped living like monkeys.

It still doesn't make much sense. There are about 15+ races in mass effect. So we're supposed to believe all 15 of those evolved and discovered space travel in a 50,000 year period (which is a miniscule timespan in relation to the Galaxy)?
It's Science Fiction not Science, I don't really want to overthink it anymore than that.
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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
March 01 2012 16:53 GMT
#1014
On March 02 2012 01:50 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 19:25 Tobberoth wrote:
They probably got 50 000 from real history. 50 000 years ago was the switch from middle paleolithic age to upper paleolithic, which is right dab in the stoneage. If there were more intelligent beings on earth which disappeared at that time, there's no way that would be recorded to this day. 50 000 years ago today is about the first time when humans started to make proper stone tools which weren't completely unsofisticated and stopped living like monkeys.

It still doesn't make much sense. There are about 15+ races in mass effect. So we're supposed to believe all 15 of those evolved and discovered space travel in a 50,000 year period (which is a miniscule timespan in relation to the Galaxy)?
It's Science Fiction not Science, I don't really want to overthink it anymore than that.


what is so unbelievable about that? Even if the chance of intelligent life on a planet is only 0,000001% there will still be so many planets in the galaxy that you'd still have some intelligent species.
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
March 01 2012 17:07 GMT
#1015
it is kind of strange that there are 15 space faring races after 50.000 years, but you never hear about less developed races that are not yet capable of space travel, you'd expect some that are just a little bit behind. But when you cut off all intelligent live at a certain maximum level, 15 might just be count of races that made it into space travel within 50.000 years, why not?

The fact that you don't see anything about non space faring races might just be because they are uninteresting and thus not discussed at all by the more evolved races, but that's pretty much about it. For every non space faring race there is at most one planet where they live obviously, instead of a few dozens, so it might be rather unlikely to randomly run into them.

Although then again, there is planets with lots of plant life without any form of sentient local population, so that's maybe a bit weird again. But still, not a complete impossibility, we don't know all that much about life on other planets yet to judge this ;P
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APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
March 01 2012 17:16 GMT
#1016
Another issue I have is: why can't the space faring races use telescopes or w/e to get some ideas on how the reapers operate from how they attacked in the past?
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 17:45:00
March 01 2012 17:43 GMT
#1017
On March 02 2012 02:07 MisterD wrote:
it is kind of strange that there are 15 space faring races after 50.000 years, but you never hear about less developed races that are not yet capable of space travel, you'd expect some that are just a little bit behind. But when you cut off all intelligent live at a certain maximum level, 15 might just be count of races that made it into space travel within 50.000 years, why not?


Off the top of my head I can think of at least 2 races who didn't develop space technology in the 50,000 years who're in the Me universe.

+ Show Spoiler +
The Krogans who were given the technology in order to help fight the Rachni threat, and the Shadow Broker's race.

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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
March 01 2012 17:49 GMT
#1018
On March 02 2012 01:53 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 01:50 Klive5ive wrote:
On March 01 2012 19:25 Tobberoth wrote:
They probably got 50 000 from real history. 50 000 years ago was the switch from middle paleolithic age to upper paleolithic, which is right dab in the stoneage. If there were more intelligent beings on earth which disappeared at that time, there's no way that would be recorded to this day. 50 000 years ago today is about the first time when humans started to make proper stone tools which weren't completely unsofisticated and stopped living like monkeys.

It still doesn't make much sense. There are about 15+ races in mass effect. So we're supposed to believe all 15 of those evolved and discovered space travel in a 50,000 year period (which is a miniscule timespan in relation to the Galaxy)?
It's Science Fiction not Science, I don't really want to overthink it anymore than that.


what is so unbelievable about that? Even if the chance of intelligent life on a planet is only 0,000001% there will still be so many planets in the galaxy that you'd still have some intelligent species.

Well then why haven't we received contact from any yet?
The Milky Way is 13.2 Billion years old.
By those calculations the Galaxy should have millions of space travelling races by now; some extremely old.
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
March 01 2012 17:51 GMT
#1019
On March 01 2012 19:25 Tobberoth wrote:
They probably got 50 000 from real history. 50 000 years ago was the switch from middle paleolithic age to upper paleolithic, which is right dab in the stoneage. If there were more intelligent beings on earth which disappeared at that time, there's no way that would be recorded to this day. 50 000 years ago today is about the first time when humans started to make proper stone tools which weren't completely unsofisticated and stopped living like monkeys.


Yeah, the 50,000 years is the time they give for the rise of new spacefaring civilizations from non-intelligent life, not from non-existent life. Remember, they only wipe out the spacefaring civilizations, not all life. It's actually quite possible there are even races in the iron age or something similar on planets that haven't been discovered by the spacefaring races yet in the Milky Way that will therefore survive the purge (the reapers find the planets by stealing the records of the races from the citadel. Ilos survived the purge because it wasn't in the records).

It's more probable that the 50,000 years isn't even a cycle necessarily, it seems probable that the reaper scout wakes periodically (Sovereign was the scout for this cycle) to check the status of the citadel, and if there's a new civilization there it starts the invasion, and it just happened to take 50,000 years from the Protheans to the current day. Considering that if they happen to miss an iron age civilization somewhere that then develops spacetravel in just a few thousand years, it's quite probable that by the time they come back 50,000 years from now, they'll be outmatched by a civilization with superior tech to what they have (50k years is a LONG time to develop technology), so they kind of have to check up more often. Imagine the Reapers coming back to find warships with superior tech that are vastly superior in size and firepower to the reapers, they'd be boned.
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 18:06:11
March 01 2012 17:53 GMT
#1020
On March 02 2012 02:49 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 01:53 Skilledblob wrote:
On March 02 2012 01:50 Klive5ive wrote:
On March 01 2012 19:25 Tobberoth wrote:
They probably got 50 000 from real history. 50 000 years ago was the switch from middle paleolithic age to upper paleolithic, which is right dab in the stoneage. If there were more intelligent beings on earth which disappeared at that time, there's no way that would be recorded to this day. 50 000 years ago today is about the first time when humans started to make proper stone tools which weren't completely unsofisticated and stopped living like monkeys.

It still doesn't make much sense. There are about 15+ races in mass effect. So we're supposed to believe all 15 of those evolved and discovered space travel in a 50,000 year period (which is a miniscule timespan in relation to the Galaxy)?
It's Science Fiction not Science, I don't really want to overthink it anymore than that.


what is so unbelievable about that? Even if the chance of intelligent life on a planet is only 0,000001% there will still be so many planets in the galaxy that you'd still have some intelligent species.

Well then why haven't we received contact from any yet?
The Milky Way is 13.2 Billion years old.
By those calculations the Galaxy should have millions of space travelling races by now; some extremely old.


Speed of light limitation, signals can't travel faster than the speed of light. Our ability to send radio waves and receive them was only developed what, 90 years ago? Our signals can be, at most, only 90 light years away. Let's suppose for a moment, that there is intelligent developed life only 100 light years away. Well, it takes 100 years for light (or any signal at that speed) to reach them from us, then another 100 years for it to get back to us for us to even know about it. Given the expansion of space, it's even slightly longer than that. In Mass Effect, they have a way to bypass the speed of light limitation (the Mass Relays and FTL drives), but IRL we don't have that.
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