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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
January 04 2013 21:52 GMT
#5221
So I stand by what I said:

Color Pie Violation!
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 22:36:51
January 04 2013 22:36 GMT
#5222
On January 05 2013 06:52 slyboogie wrote:
So I stand by what I said:

Color Pie Violation!


Bleeding =/= Violation.

Dismember a much more egregious example of violation than Pongify. REMOVAL FOR ALL~! (Just read that in Oprah's voice).
Get it by your hands...
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 04 2013 23:18 GMT
#5223
I'll find a way to make Boros Humans work again...Even though the finishers are questionable.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 04 2013 23:50 GMT
#5224
On January 05 2013 06:52 slyboogie wrote:
So I stand by what I said:

Color Pie Violation!


It has the Simic watermark does it not? That basically means that it wasn't viable at UG so they had to just leave it at U but it reflects the UG nature of Simic...I fee like it's a fine card with that in mind.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 00:03:59
January 04 2013 23:57 GMT
#5225
On January 05 2013 06:44 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:38 slyboogie wrote:
On January 05 2013 00:18 deth2munkies wrote:
On January 05 2013 00:09 slyboogie wrote:
Wtf. Color pie violation.


It's a functional reprint of Pongify.

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=129015


Isn't that the set that purposely did things like white shocks and counter spells?

Sunlance
Mana Tithe

Yeah, Time Spiral was a big "What if the Colour Pie had ended up different" sort of set. The colour-shifted (aka Time-Shifted) cards are still flavourful but weren't the way R&D went with the colour pie. Also had a lot of throwbacks to old stuff too which was cute.

Note that while Pongify was printed in Planar Chaos, it's not actually explicitly a color-shifted card (the color-shifted cards have special templating that you can see on Sunlance and Mana Tithe--note that the boxes containing the name and type are colored darker than the background color, while in the normal template, they are a lighter shade of the corresponding color). Which means that they don't explicitly consider it to be a color pie violation.
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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 02:23:32
January 05 2013 02:17 GMT
#5226
It's not the freaking Constitution. I don't care if they make R: Draw 3 cards and Gain 3 life.

But it's a violation. Rationalize it if you want with "bleeding" or Simic watermarks but destroying creatures isn't Blue. Again, I don't care, I just like typing violation.

Edit: don't mean to sound hard headed, btw, but that's how my post reads. Basically, I don't think the color pie is particularly sacred, but there is some reason it exists. The card isn't overpowered or anything like that but it's just not particularly Blue.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
January 05 2013 02:19 GMT
#5227
my favorite card from gatecrash so far has to be the dimir guildmage
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can't wait to play test it in modern with http://magiccards.info/query?q=!MindCrank
not sure if it would would better in a pure combo deck or slower control deck
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
January 05 2013 02:27 GMT
#5228
Playing that Guildmage in Commander looks like it would garner a ton of hate if you have enough opponents and mana to use his first ability every turn. Whew.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 05 2013 02:42 GMT
#5229
On January 05 2013 11:27 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Playing that Guildmage in Commander looks like it would garner a ton of hate if you have enough opponents and mana to use his first ability every turn. Whew.



Next turn play Traumatize and the first ability and instakill someone.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 04:59:26
January 05 2013 04:52 GMT
#5230
On January 05 2013 11:42 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 11:27 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Playing that Guildmage in Commander looks like it would garner a ton of hate if you have enough opponents and mana to use his first ability every turn. Whew.



Next turn play Traumatize and the first ability and instakill someone.


Oh, derp, lol. Milling would be super effective. m-(

Lord. I just remembered Mind Funeral. More chancy, but it'll probably cost less.

EDIT: Aww darn. Jace, Memory Adept is still viable for standard. Speaking of milling, haha....
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
January 05 2013 17:06 GMT
#5231
On January 05 2013 11:17 slyboogie wrote:
It's not the freaking Constitution. I don't care if they make R: Draw 3 cards and Gain 3 life.

But it's a violation. Rationalize it if you want with "bleeding" or Simic watermarks but destroying creatures isn't Blue. Again, I don't care, I just like typing violation.

Edit: don't mean to sound hard headed, btw, but that's how my post reads. Basically, I don't think the color pie is particularly sacred, but there is some reason it exists. The card isn't overpowered or anything like that but it's just not particularly Blue.


Game would be really boring and Blue would be straight up dominating AND powercreep would be out of control.
Get it by your hands...
Rainofpain
Profile Joined December 2010
United States125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 18:21:22
January 05 2013 18:20 GMT
#5232
Since there wasn`t enough RTR for 3 RTR we had a 1AVR 2RTR draft last night with 2 pods of 7 people. AVR works REALLY well with RTR, all the bounce is SICK in Izzet. My first picks were Conscripts, Thunderous Wrath, Pillar of Flame, then Mist Raven.

I got 3-1, losing my only match to my friend who got an Entreat the Angels is his AVR.... incase you didn`t know populating 4/4s with flying is good.

1st game I never drew an Island, 2nd game Frostburn Weird brought the beats with Pursuit. 3rd was super close, was stuck on 4 lands for 1-2 turns longer than I needed to be. It came down to me saying F it and stealing an angel with Conscripts and hoping he blocked wrong.

My sick deck:

1 Pillar of Flame
2 Frost Weirds
2 Electromancers
2 Pursuit of Flight
1 Nivix Guildmage
1 Izzet Charm
1 Lobber Crew
1 Riot Ringleader
1 Tower Drake
1 Cobblebrue
1 Mist Raven
1 Into the Void
1 Voidwielder
1 Batterhorn
1 Zealous Conscripts (Best card in my deck by an extremley wide margin)
1 Hypersonic Dragon
2 Isperia`s Skywatch
1 Thunderous Wrath
1 Rogue`s Passage
1 Izzet Guildgate
8 Mountains
7Islands

If you are looking for a way to reinvigorate draft or just have fun try mixing the packs up!
It`s hard to read bad players because they`re bad - Idra
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 18:26:28
January 05 2013 18:21 GMT
#5233
Speaking of combos, Captain of the Mists+Gilded Lotus+Illusionist's Bracers is a new standard legal one. Tap Lotus for mana, Untap Lotus+Captain with Bracers, net a mana and repeat. Use said mana to a. Go infinite with anything that utilizes infinite mana and/or infinite untaps b. Tap down any number of permanents (say, all of your opponent's permanents at their upkeep) with Captain himself.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 19:47:34
January 05 2013 19:46 GMT
#5234
On January 06 2013 03:21 ManyCookies wrote:
Speaking of combos, Captain of the Mists+Gilded Lotus+Illusionist's Bracers is a new standard legal one. Tap Lotus for mana, Untap Lotus+Captain with Bracers, net a mana and repeat. Use said mana to a. Go infinite with anything that utilizes infinite mana and/or infinite untaps b. Tap down any number of permanents (say, all of your opponent's permanents at their upkeep) with Captain himself.


Rakdos' Return. Go Grixis Control/Ramp, with your win cons being Rakdos' Return, Nicol Bolas, and CMC 5 Jace. There's also Bonfire of the Damned as well.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
January 05 2013 21:51 GMT
#5235
I think there's something relatively similar with Lotus, Deadeye Navigator and Zealous Conscripts.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
January 05 2013 22:15 GMT
#5236
Midnight Guard, Dual Casting, Battle Hymn and Krenko's Command/Gather the Townsfolk produces infinite mana right now.
You can also produce infinite life with Resto + 2 Fiend Hunters + Seraph Sanctuary, which in turn draws you infinite cards with Drogskol Reaver and wins the game with Laboratory Maniac.

There are a couple of infinite combos for various things in Standard; I personally think that the Resto + Fiend Hunter one just for the infinite life could even be played in an actual deck since the cards aren't too awful by themselves.

And if you happen to have Omniscience or a Tamiyo Emblem in play, you can use a huge variety of combos...
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
January 05 2013 22:39 GMT
#5237
Those are pipe dreams, I was thinking something more along the lines of Splinter Twin.

Off-topic thought, I don't think there's more soul crushing moment as a player in RtR drafts than when you realize that you have to kill a Runewing because said Runewing is going to kill you...from 20. The look on people's faces when they spend an Ultimate Price/Stab Wound/Augur Spree to kill it when they are behind on board is just demoralizing.
Get it by your hands...
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 06 2013 00:56 GMT
#5238
Probably not the best place for this but does anyone know how to get mtgpulse streams to work on a new iPhone 4S?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
January 06 2013 02:35 GMT
#5239
On January 06 2013 09:56 NotSorry wrote:
Probably not the best place for this but does anyone know how to get mtgpulse streams to work on a new iPhone 4S?


If its on twitch.tv, you need to get the twitch.tv app, otherwise it's no good. Adobe Flash will NOT NOT NOT NOT NEVER EVER work on iPhones so you need to either find the app (if they have one) or some kind of alternative. Some sites have mobile versions of their sites and recognize that you are using an iPhone and automatically present you with the alternative.
Get it by your hands...
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
January 06 2013 02:45 GMT
#5240
On January 06 2013 02:06 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 11:17 slyboogie wrote:
It's not the freaking Constitution. I don't care if they make R: Draw 3 cards and Gain 3 life.

But it's a violation. Rationalize it if you want with "bleeding" or Simic watermarks but destroying creatures isn't Blue. Again, I don't care, I just like typing violation.

Edit: don't mean to sound hard headed, btw, but that's how my post reads. Basically, I don't think the color pie is particularly sacred, but there is some reason it exists. The card isn't overpowered or anything like that but it's just not particularly Blue.


Game would be really boring and Blue would be straight up dominating AND powercreep would be out of control.


I don't understand what you're saying. Under what circumstance are you saying that? Color pie violations?
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
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