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Shotcoder
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On October 03 2012 11:36 Risen wrote: Just can't get Grixis to work as well as Jund... maybe once Gatecrash hits :/ Don't see how. Grixis mana is about as good as it gets which is what is stopping other colors, the Dmir colors fix Esper more than it fixes Grixis. | ||
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ParanoiaDHerO
United States183 Posts
On October 03 2012 11:36 Risen wrote: Just can't get Grixis to work as well as Jund... maybe once Gatecrash hits :/ I agree, my friend's current jund deck is just unbelievable. I don't see atm how Grixis can compete with the limited removal but we aren't pros lol. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On October 03 2012 11:51 Judicator wrote: Don't see how. Grixis mana is about as good as it gets which is what is stopping other colors, the Dmir colors fix Esper more than it fixes Grixis. Yeah I don't see how either, will just have to wait on spoilers. On October 03 2012 12:06 ParanoiaDHerO wrote: I agree, my friend's current jund deck is just unbelievable. I don't see atm how Grixis can compete with the limited removal but we aren't pros lol. Removal isn't even the issue for me, it's that Jund just lands the farseek and is instantly better off than Grixis. And alas, that we are not  Edit: I mean ugh... if the mana was consistent Grixis would be so good T_T | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
Sulfur Falls+Steamworks 8 sources for UR Dragonskull Summit + Crypt 8 sources for RB Drowned Catacomb 4 sources for UB Evolving Wilds for 4 more w/e Plus your 2 Guild Keyrunes. How in the world is your mana inconsistent? Edit: What I am trolling MWS with right now: + Show Spoiler + // Lands 4 [RTR] Hallowed Fountain 4 [M13] Glacial Fortress 1 [ISD] Ghost Quarter 4 [DKA] Evolving Wilds 6 [RTR] Island (1) 7 [AVR] Plains (1) // Creatures 2 [AVR] Lone Revenant // Spells 1 [RTR] Sphinx's Revelation 2 [M13] Oblivion Ring 4 [RTR] Supreme Verdict 3 [RTR] Sphere of Safety 2 [RTR] Detention Sphere 2 [AVR] Terminus 3 [RTR] Martial Law 4 [RTR] Azorius Keyrune 2 [AVR] Tamiyo, the Moon Sage 3 [RTR] Jace, Architect of Thought 1 [RTR] Cyclonic Rift 3 [RTR] Azorius Charm 2 [M13] Divination // Sideboard SB: 1 [M13] Oblivion Ring SB: 1 [AVR] Terminus SB: 2 [M13] Jace, Memory Adept SB: 2 [M13] Touch of the Eternal SB: 2 [ISD] Dissipate SB: 1 [RTR] Isperia, Supreme Judge SB: 2 [AVR] Divine Deflection SB: 2 [M13] Faith's Reward SB: 2 [RTR] Cyclonic Rift | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
Upsides: Better Mana More consistent Ghoultrees with loot+ Rakdos, Lord of Riots backup plan Better aggressive creatures rather than utility ones Loot > pure Self Mill Can side out creatures with much less of an impact Downsides: More expensive mana Jarad/Rakdos gives 2 very hard to cast spells on top of other doubles like Wild Guess There aren't as many good loot spells (I don't count Shattered Perception as a good one) Arbor Elves are kinda awkward but I have so many 3s/4s it's worth it. + Show Spoiler + 4x Ghoultree 4x Dreadbridge Goliath 3x Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord 4x Dreg Mangler 4x Arbor Elf 3x Lotleth Troll 3x Rakdos, Lord of Riots 4x Grisly Salvage 4x Faithless Looting 3x Shattered Perception 4x Overgrown Tomb 4x Blood Crypt 3x Woodland Cemetary 4x Dragonskull Summit 3x Rootbound Crag 1x Swamp 1x Mountain 4x Forest | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On October 03 2012 12:23 Judicator wrote: I really don't see how Grixis mana is bad. Sulfur Falls+Steamworks 8 sources for UR Dragonskull Summit + Crypt 8 sources for RB Drowned Catacomb 4 sources for UB Evolving Wilds for 4 more w/e Plus your 2 Guild Keyrunes. How in the world is your mana inconsistent? Edit: What I am trolling MWS with right now: + Show Spoiler + // Lands 4 [RTR] Hallowed Fountain 4 [M13] Glacial Fortress 1 [ISD] Ghost Quarter 4 [DKA] Evolving Wilds 6 [RTR] Island (1) 7 [AVR] Plains (1) // Creatures 2 [AVR] Lone Revenant // Spells 1 [RTR] Sphinx's Revelation 2 [M13] Oblivion Ring 4 [RTR] Supreme Verdict 3 [RTR] Sphere of Safety 2 [RTR] Detention Sphere 2 [AVR] Terminus 3 [RTR] Martial Law 4 [RTR] Azorius Keyrune 2 [AVR] Tamiyo, the Moon Sage 3 [RTR] Jace, Architect of Thought 1 [RTR] Cyclonic Rift 3 [RTR] Azorius Charm 2 [M13] Divination // Sideboard SB: 1 [M13] Oblivion Ring SB: 1 [AVR] Terminus SB: 2 [M13] Jace, Memory Adept SB: 2 [M13] Touch of the Eternal SB: 2 [ISD] Dissipate SB: 1 [RTR] Isperia, Supreme Judge SB: 2 [AVR] Divine Deflection SB: 2 [M13] Faith's Reward SB: 2 [RTR] Cyclonic Rift Probably b/c I hadn't considered using wilds or the keyrunes... Because I am bad. | ||
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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semantics
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Something silly like + Show Spoiler [monowhite enchantment deck lol] + 4x Pacifism 1W 4x Arrest 2W 4x Oblivion Ring 2W 4x Security Blockade 2W 4x Sphere of Safety 4W 4x Martial Law 2WW 2x Defang 1W 2x Ghostly Possession 2W 4x Growing Ranks 2WW 1x Touch of the Eternal 5WW 2x Curse of Exhaustion 2WW 2x nevermore 1x Elixer 1x Staff of nin 1x Sands of Delirium land 4xGhost Quarter 16x plains maybe less considering i only need to really hit 4 5 But i think just keeping a side of 2x nevermore (probably would sideboard in any match after the 1st game) 2x Defang 1W 2x Ghostly Possession 2W 2x Curse of Exhaustion 2WW 3x Elixir of immorality (something that killed all my enchantments or something) 4x Rest in peace (re animator) And something for card advantage probably like staff instead of splashing colors ionno im dicking around with a cheap fun deck for standard instead of one designed to purely win going that splash of blue to hit Supreme Verdict and Detention Sphere wouldn't be too bad either. It probably be bad given flashes and stuff like bounce but i just wanna lol | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On October 03 2012 12:52 stormtemplar wrote: Didn't really get a great answer, I'd really appreciate a decklist or something. The format hasnt even shaped up yet, how do you expect people to know what decks will be in the format? Try some mono white or mono red variant, those are usually cheap. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On October 03 2012 12:52 stormtemplar wrote: Didn't really get a great answer, I'd really appreciate a decklist or something. Buy an event deck when they come out and go from there. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
On October 03 2012 12:52 stormtemplar wrote: Didn't really get a great answer, I'd really appreciate a decklist or something. 4 - Stromkirk Noble 4 - Rackdos Cackler 2 - Stonewright 4 - Ash Zealot 4 - Rakdos Shred-Freak 4 - Hellrider 4 - Pillar of Flame 4 - Searing Spear 4 - Brimstone Volley 2/3 - Flames of the Firebrand/Thunderbolt 21 Mountains 2 Hellion Crucible It shouldn't be that expensive, it can probably win game one most of the time like most red decks, but I honestly haven;'t tested it and life gain in the form of thragtusk is pretty scary. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
On October 03 2012 13:47 Judicator wrote: Decks like that can't beat Smiter nor Thragtusk or Centaur Healer. Of course, but that has been the case for red decks for all time(notice where I say you can't beat thragtusk, also add huntmasters on to your list of annoying cards 2 bodies + 2 life is super strong). Once you get in to two colors, you can have a more versatile deck, but then your investing in to duals of some sort or have horrible mana. As far as dirt cheap start from scratch have decent chance at winning games mono red has been historically the best option, you have really strong match ups and then you have super weak match ups(but you can still randomly win turn 4) Not suggesting the deck is going to be tier one or two ;p | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 4x Lingering Souls 4x Midnight Haunting 4x Intangible Virtue 3x Collective Blessing 4x Call of the Conclave 4x Wayfaring Temple 4x Selesnya Charm 4x Gather the Townsfolk 4x Increasing Devotion 4x Selesnya Guildgate 3x Golgari Guildgate 4x Evolving Wilds 7x Plains 5x Forest 2x Swamp I threw that together in 5 minutes with "it seems sweet" written all over it. Nothing in the deck costs much more than a dollar. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On October 03 2012 23:54 deth2munkies wrote: Really, if you want a cheap deck you're gonna have to skimp on the manabase. One deck where pretty much everything else is cheap is tokens: + Show Spoiler + 4x Lingering Souls 4x Midnight Haunting 4x Intangible Virtue 3x Collective Blessing 4x Call of the Conclave 4x Wayfaring Temple 4x Selesnya Charm 4x Gather the Townsfolk 4x Increasing Devotion 4x Selesnya Guildgate 3x Golgari Guildgate 4x Evolving Wilds 7x Plains 5x Forest 2x Swamp I threw that together in 5 minutes with "it seems sweet" written all over it. Nothing in the deck costs much more than a dollar. scumbag deck maker says nothing costs more than a dollar first card in the list, 2 bucks. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On October 04 2012 03:29 Judicator wrote: scumbag deck maker says nothing costs more than a dollar first card in the list, 2 bucks. It's $1.25 at my local store, hence "not much more than a dollar". It's a fucking uncommon anyway, anybody that did INN drafts has to have a few. EDIT: Never trust Starcity, they always charge the maximum possible, literally every other website is the same or lower, usually lower. EDIT EDIT: Median price on TCG player has gone up since I last checked, but it's still $1.85 http://magiccards.info/query?q=Lingering SOuls&v=card&s=cname | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On October 04 2012 05:16 deth2munkies wrote: It's $1.25 at my local store, hence "not much more than a dollar". It's a fucking uncommon anyway, anybody that did INN drafts has to have a few. EDIT: Never trust Starcity, they always charge the maximum possible, literally every other website is the same or lower, usually lower. EDIT EDIT: Median price on TCG player has gone up since I last checked, but it's still $1.85 http://magiccards.info/query?q=Lingering SOuls&v=card&s=cname It was a joke, relax I'm still laughing lol | ||
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