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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 19:00:22
September 16 2010 18:17 GMT
#1
Steam link: Here

Recettear is the latest game to be released on STEAM, and is a direct localization of a Japanese doujin game. In it you take the part of an item shop owner that can be found in any generic RPG, and provides a refreshing look to the genre.

This first piqued my interest after one of the webcomics I regularly read featured the game several days ago:

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After looking at the comments, I was surprised that Steam had actually officially released a Japanese game, and a doujin game at that.

The screenshots and reviews looked quite promising:
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I had previously enjoyed a Japanese game series called Ys which had a similar 3rd person rpg gameplay, but without the tycoon aspect. Considering that this was the first localized Japanese game to be released on Steam, I decided to take the plunge and have a go.

.....


And man. Four days never seemed to go by so fast. The initial game mechanics is not that difficult to grasp. After a few tries, I could easily get a pretty good income stream going. But the game has absolutely INGENIOUS addiction-inducing mechanics. (This was seen in Ys as well)

First, the game has 8 companions. You can, with some effort, collect all 8 in one playthrough. However, you can only keep just one companion in each playthrough, and the rest has to be unlocked again even if you do a New Game +. This is important, since New Game + is the only way you can possibly hope to gain all the available items. Some of the companions have very difficult requirements to unlock - i.e. you have to hope to meet her in the middle of a randomized dungeon, and thus have to seek out every corner of every map each time you run a dungeon until you meet up with her.

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Full companion "cards."

Next, the game has ~8 dungeons, but some of the later dungeons have 100 levels, plus one dungeon with 60 levels worth of bosses. And the dungeons can only be unlocked after specific conditions, story or otherwise, have been met. Pretty impressive for a game that is primarily a tycoon game. Each dungeon is randomly generated, so you can't just memorize a pattern and follow through

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[i]all 6 dungeons[i]


Next, the item rarity and crafting system. For a game that supposedly focuses on a tycoon mechanic, the game has an impressive list of crafting recipes. There's probably at least 50 or more different crafting components, plus different weapon type for each companion, plus three different armor types and accessories etc etc... And all of them have crafting recipes. By the way, the crafting components drop very sparingly, and only during dungeon crawls. Because there's so many of them, you can only hope to get like 3-5 of the components at a time. Some of the recipes call for as much as 50 of the components, which adds up to an unbelievable amount of grinding. But when you do make the final ultimate items, you can be godlike in the dungeons - so it feels like it's worth it in the end.

And you know what? Each component also has "quality" levels. The higher the quality of the component you use, the stronger the final item. So, you end up grinding forever until you get 50 +4 cotton balls...
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Are you serious? 50??


And not even all the items can be crafted, which leads me to the item completion mode. The way the dungeons are structured mean that you can either do boss runs to get the rare items, or do regular dungeon crawls to get the common items. Items in the medium quality, however, cannot be crafted (not strong enough) and also never drops from the enemies. And the game has a E-PEEN meter a.k.a. % completion item encyclopedia, and you can find yourself grinding for like 12 hours trying to find that last weak-ass spear that just never seems to drop so that you can go from 99% to 100%.
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And finally, the survival mode. The point of getting all the companions and saving up enough money is to "heirloom" into the survival mode the ability to summon all the companions. The survival hell mode, the ultimate challenge, only allows you to import this summoning capability as well as the merchant "reputations." And, you guessed it - there's a hitch with the reputations. One of the customers is actually a real hack that sells things at 500% their proper price. But you have to earn enough money such that you can afford this price, because you need that reputation during the survival hell mode.
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So just from my descriptions, I'm sure you can tell how much of a grind the game can be. But man, you don't feel it when you play it. It's like playing football manager or civilization - you don't notice the time, and then it's suddenly 4am in the morning.

In the end, it was all worth it. The game's dialogue is hilarious the first time around, and afterwards the grinding is just barely bearable such that you keep playing it, trying to get that last few components to upgrade your next weapon/armor, etc etc. In all, it was a very nice game, and well worth the price.

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100% completion

Frankly, though the game supposedly primarily deals with the mechanics of selling/buying items, the biggest entertainment comes from the crafting/dungeon crawl. The merchant aspect is just a means to an end, to earn enough money and craft powerful items. [/IMG]
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2297 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 18:32:49
September 16 2010 18:30 GMT
#2
I cant believe steam released a japanese game either. many people play this? I am not a huge fan of rpg games like that but i know a friend that might be interested. oh and this should maybe be moved to Sports And Games.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
September 16 2010 18:32 GMT
#3
Yes, the game is nice.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Gleen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brazil707 Posts
September 16 2010 18:36 GMT
#4
Is it in steam? How much it costs?
I'm nowhere near good, but I still have fun playing with my probes
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 18:37:27
September 16 2010 18:37 GMT
#5
Dr H already got me hooked

damn you, addictive jrpg goodness >.<

On September 17 2010 03:36 Gleen wrote:
Is it in steam? How much it costs?

$20
boomer hands
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
September 16 2010 18:37 GMT
#6
Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/70400/
$20.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
keeblur
Profile Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
September 16 2010 18:41 GMT
#7
It got a little too repetitive for me. The concept was fresh though, and I play a little now and then, but it doesn't hold my attention for more than one dungeon run and selling the items you picked up. I know the game is more intricate than it seems, but I just couldn't get passed like level 18 merchant.
Isn't it ironic and selfish to say that God made man in his image, when God was made in man's image?
Gleen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brazil707 Posts
September 16 2010 18:48 GMT
#8
On September 17 2010 03:37 orgolove wrote:
Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/70400/
$20.

Thanks!
I'm nowhere near good, but I still have fun playing with my probes
cinn
Profile Joined November 2008
United States27 Posts
September 16 2010 19:12 GMT
#9
Capitalism, ho!
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 19:45:50
September 16 2010 19:45 GMT
#10
sit in store
sell/buy crap over and over
game got boring fast
overrated

if you want to argue that the other "elements" of the game make it fun, stop kidding yourself
to honestly think that running the Recettear dungeons is fun is like betraying real action rpgs
oooo i get to fuse a high-level weapon
now i can either use it in the dungeon for no noticeable difference or sell it. fun.
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 16 2010 21:00 GMT
#11
I thought it was fun. I was surprised when I realized that I logged in more time playing this in 2-3 days than I did playing Oblivion over the last few weeks.

I want more Merchant experience though. I've only figured out that just combos give me mega EXP but I don't know what else to do.

I game-overed at 80,000 and had to restart =(
The_Pacifist
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States540 Posts
September 16 2010 21:09 GMT
#12
The demo was a lot of fun, so I'll probably end up buying it sometime in the near future.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
September 16 2010 23:33 GMT
#13
I'm going to try out this game. However, this is the THIRD thread on it. Maybe use the search function next time.
farseerdk
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 01:49:50
September 17 2010 01:48 GMT
#14
Click for full size.
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Perspective is merely an angle.
hofodomo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States257 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 04:32:13
September 17 2010 04:30 GMT
#15
I just started playing this today. The entire time I had the dumbest grin over my face.

And then I

:3

On September 17 2010 04:45 tube wrote:
sit in store
sell/buy crap over and over
game got boring fast
overrated


I'm OK with this.
Smoke weed ev'ry day.
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
September 17 2010 05:28 GMT
#16
I got too annoyed with the bitch that tries to sell you stuff for 500k+ ruining my combos, so I just used a memory editor to get back whatever I paid her =/
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
September 17 2010 11:53 GMT
#17
Lol this game was pretty fun hahahaha

Sucks it only lasted a couple of days though
Fdragon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States96 Posts
September 17 2010 12:24 GMT
#18
Games awesome had to take a break from its awesomeness to do school work XD! Very nice game definaly worth the 18$ I spent on it pre order ^^
ZvT makes me Sad Face =(
Daved
Profile Joined September 2010
Great Britain11 Posts
September 17 2010 16:51 GMT
#19
Jesus, when will you people stop being persuaded by cutsie anime bullshit

User was warned for this post
heronz
Profile Joined August 2010
25 Posts
October 20 2010 21:13 GMT
#20
just discovered it.

can be bought from: http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-RAIST/recettear-an-item-shops-talegamersgate and http://www.impulsedriven.com/recettearimpulse

im not a fan of steam (FU steam). while i'm at it, FU Euria! i automatically reload everytime i see her unless i can refuse her first. and FU luie for picking up the worn sword when the crystal blade was right NEXT to it!
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