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Zanzabar Haberdasher
Profile Joined July 2010
United States510 Posts
August 31 2010 13:33 GMT
#15581
I just bought Sion. The first few games I played with him I built early game AP into tank. Could anyone suggest a 'proper' build? Can't help but feel I'm not maximizing/playing to his strengths.
I have a very unique name.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
August 31 2010 13:35 GMT
#15582
On August 31 2010 22:27 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Right now I'd ban Kogmaw, Ezreal, Vlad, Garen and Morgana, depending on what my team wanted to play, our pick order, and how much of a threat the other characters were to that.


So Shaco dominance is officially over or is it not? I've played vs some Shacos lately and they didn't feel a tad less scary.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 31 2010 13:36 GMT
#15583
On August 31 2010 21:38 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Hmm, theres no guide for Teemo..

Guess i'll just wing it. Recommended items cant be that bad.

shield/health pot
go back when you can get B.F Sword and Boots 1
go grab lizard and gank a bit
finish berserker boots then inf edge/go phage if youre dying alot(which you shouldnt be..)
then phage and i like to go into last whisper, depending no how many kills you got the game should be over by now, though i like to grab bloodthirster if it isnt
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
August 31 2010 13:36 GMT
#15584
On August 31 2010 22:30 Shikyo wrote:
Amumu's fallen off? o_o
meanwhile, Veigar's caught on haha. shikyo, we shoulda listened to you all along.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 31 2010 13:46 GMT
#15585
Epic. 4 feeders on my team. We were like 5-20 or so before I was able to turn the tides a bit. I was 100% focused by everyone, whenever possible, wherever possible. Akali even chased me through 3 turrets until I reached our fountain. Cleanse, Ghost, Ghostblade ftw. Then she didn't know what to do and I picked her off trying to bluepill out of our base. Nidalee stole baron with her Spear. I think we might even have won if we had gotten baron there. Wasn't a sure victory, but after that it all went downhill again. My team started complaining about my low damage (~200 with Ghostblade/Bruta/Red Pot) and asked me what I would need CDR for. I added Infinity Edge at the end, but it was over. Their Singed after the game: "Morde was not a tank", "died faster than Ashe or Rzye".
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 31 2010 13:52 GMT
#15586
On August 31 2010 22:33 Zanzabar Haberdasher wrote:
I just bought Sion. The first few games I played with him I built early game AP into tank. Could anyone suggest a 'proper' build? Can't help but feel I'm not maximizing/playing to his strengths.

Ring+1 for solo lane, else blue gem+1+1, boots 1, sheen, glacial shroud, mercs/sorcs, lichbane. The game should be over by now, otherwise go for tanking items as needed while spamming blue elixirs.

Your ult allows you to pressure like a madman after the initial burst, I've often found myself getting wit's end vs caster teams because of the added everything. Frozen heart is good, zhonya is good, any negatron items as needed if you feel like you just explode. Don't be afraid to keep your shield on in teamfights, you can pop it right before it gets exploded and it will still do full damage. Its range is way bigger than it looks, learn to harass with it and enjoy laning.

I like 9/0/21 masteries with ghost/(imp)exhaust or ghost/teleport, your ult and stun allow you to gank quite nicely.

But really, you can play Sion however you want, if you want to go dps you'll crit for hundreds and three-shot squishies, full AP sion has retarded burst and zhonyas, it's a lot about playstyle, he just fits the current metagame well.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 31 2010 13:58 GMT
#15587
On August 31 2010 22:30 Shikyo wrote:
Amumu's fallen off? o_o

I've never felt like Amumu was particularly GREAT. He was an asset to any team based strictly on his ult but his lane phase is terrible and if he jungles he gets out-jungled by pretty much every jungler. I used to think differently until I started playing against players who would just straight up rape me when I was on amumu, and I've almost never been up against a team where I was like OH FUCK, AMUMU, WE'RE DEAD whereas sometimes I feel that way about vlad/ezreal/morgana/garen and nowadays, kogmaw.

Taric is also banworthy, played well he's pretty frickin hard to beat.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
August 31 2010 14:11 GMT
#15588
I just played the most horrible game ever, which ended my 9 game annie winning streak. We had baron buff, 2 inhibs down for them and I had something like 700 ap and I was just stacking money because I had my ultimate items already. My team was so utterly horrible excluding a sivir who did ok. Our malphite NEVER hit his ult and used it to get away when he initiated ALONE into 5 players with his ground smash. Our malzh disced 40 mins into the game and our teemo was running in enemy jungle the whole game planting shrooms (he was something like 3/17 for running into peolple while planting shrooms). I went something like 20/6/25 but we still lost that AND I RAGEEEEEDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
August 31 2010 14:33 GMT
#15589
On August 31 2010 22:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 22:30 Shikyo wrote:
Amumu's fallen off? o_o

I've never felt like Amumu was particularly GREAT. He was an asset to any team based strictly on his ult but his lane phase is terrible and if he jungles he gets out-jungled by pretty much every jungler. I used to think differently until I started playing against players who would just straight up rape me when I was on amumu, and I've almost never been up against a team where I was like OH FUCK, AMUMU, WE'RE DEAD whereas sometimes I feel that way about vlad/ezreal/morgana/garen and nowadays, kogmaw.

People thinking Amumu's early and mid game are not spectular is nothing new... maybe people just forgot when Amumu gained popularity. He's a late game monster and as long as that's true, and as long as a nice Q and R combo can still get ganks on a decent number of champs, he should be a strong choice.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 31 2010 14:58 GMT
#15590
I still think you should just be banning Amumu, Morgana, Ezreal, and Shaco, though replacing Shaco with Garen to avoid your fucking nooby ass team from bitching all game isn't a bad idea either. Amumu is still the #1 character in the game IMO because he still feels like the only character who can singlehandedly make the game do a complete 180.

Pantheon is the counter to Kog Maw. Jesus Christ does Pantheon futtbuck that little bastard.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
August 31 2010 15:04 GMT
#15591
biggest mistake i see when people jungle amumu is taking lizard/ganking sidelanes. unless the team is overly stupid(then by all means do it) its extremely hard to justify it when you dont have a guaranteed instagib like warwick or insane movespeed like udyr. you should be trying to force a fight at dragon as amumu asap because that is your strength over other jungler's early/mid game, your AOE. so take advantage of it and stop taking that lizard and give it to some one in lane.
Brees on in
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 15:12:40
August 31 2010 15:05 GMT
#15592
wow, after i go above 1320 elo, everything go so smooth? no stupid teammates, good ban good picks... i love high elo, sitting on a 5 or 6 winning streak right no at 1370+ :D

edit1:my favorite ban: morg (spell shield vs caster), taric (heal self + team at the same time?), amumu(ulti), ez(imba since early on :<). after that i will start banning champ like shen or shaco depend on free week.

pick: annie, WW are almost guarantee you a win. TF for dps and counter quishy, Cho or mal for tank.
If enemy jungle, put 1 ward at blue and go back wait for them to farm there >

edit2: dun know about garen ban, him alone cant vs 5 people and most of the time i try to approach him 2v1 and trade life. personally i prefer a team which has a xin more than a garen.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 31 2010 15:06 GMT
#15593
if you're not banning amumu/morgana/garen/ezrael you're doing it wrong imo
garen/ez can dominate the game from level 1 on, especially against a weaker lane opponent
amumu/morgana are the most game-changing support heroes lategame

the general rule is, if you get them on your team, they'll go garen AD, ez AP, amumu AP, and morgana movespeed; if they're on the other team, it's probably grandjudge's smurf, so do yourself a favor and ban them
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
August 31 2010 15:24 GMT
#15594
anybody looking for somebody for 5v5 ranked? msg me if anybody is. FallenLOL is my ID, i've played about 500 games or so counting unranked and practice, and ranked. can play a number of heroes efficiently
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 31 2010 15:32 GMT
#15595
On September 01 2010 00:24 Fallen33 wrote:
anybody looking for somebody for 5v5 ranked? msg me if anybody is. FallenLOL is my ID, i've played about 500 games or so counting unranked and practice, and ranked. can play a number of heroes efficiently

go stream fallen :D, we are lack of LoL stream on TL xD
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 31 2010 15:33 GMT
#15596
On September 01 2010 00:05 NB wrote:
wow, after i go above 1320 elo, everything go so smooth? no stupid teammates, good ban good picks... i love high elo, sitting on a 5 or 6 winning streak right no at 1370+ :D

hate to burst your bubble but 1320+ is not high elo and I think you're just getting lucky with teammates. I run into sucky players all the time in the 1500-1700 range that MM seems to group me with.

I hope that one day I can be seen as decent in Nailpolish's eyes, but alas, it's an arduous road to top 250. Until then, I fear that I am "meh" at this game.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
August 31 2010 15:35 GMT
#15597
i made it to 1600 solo queueing and trolling every game so get on my level smash
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 31 2010 15:40 GMT
#15598
I'm at 1607 from solo queueing. And I'm massing games with shitty ol' Pantheon for the most part right now. It's just that 1607 = top 400, not the precious precious top 250 that is needed to make Nailpolish acknowledge your existence.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
August 31 2010 15:49 GMT
#15599
at least you dont have a huge ego like me, derp
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 31 2010 15:55 GMT
#15600
yea, that's a good point, though I think I just said that I run into people in the top 250 who suck so that's probably going to be seen as a huge ego.

w/e, this thread moves too slowly, let's go troll LoL forums.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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