Yeah I saw one really fucking good Kennen that carried us and I was like HOLY SHIT. I think his name was Ripples. I also saw one kick-ass Malzahar (solo mid) but every Malzahar ever since has really sucked; Turkey and I pondered if it was because the Mal that kicked my ass leveled the AoE DoT (Null Zone) while everyone else levels the silence and the mana-return DoT. Not too sure.

rredtooth

5464 Posts

June 07 2010 18:18 GMT

#122

On June 08 2010 02:51 Southlight wrote:
Yeah I saw one really fucking good Kennen that carried us and I was like HOLY SHIT. I think his name was Ripples. I also saw one kick-ass Malzahar (solo mid) but every Malzahar ever since has really sucked; Turkey and I pondered if it was because the Mal that kicked my ass leveled the AoE DoT (Null Zone) while everyone else levels the silence and the mana-return DoT. Not too sure.

sam the ham is a great kennen.

just got destroyed by hotshot's twitch supported by janna/soraka. gay-ass comp. regardless, satashi is probably the worst high-high elo player i've seen.

StuffedTurkey

United States859 Posts

June 07 2010 18:27 GMT

#123

On June 08 2010 02:44 redtooth wrote:
malzahar is 6300 and useless. i would say kennen is useless too except i've seen some good kennens. eve is 3150 (and i bought her... what a waste).

Honestly its not mal thats useless, given the amazing damage potential he has, its more that anyone who has been playing him sucks thus far(cept for the one utah mentioned)
he isnt that great at low levels from what ive seen but into the game a bit when hes gotten farmed he seems to have some of the highest damage in the game vs other farmed champs

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

June 07 2010 18:31 GMT

#124

I just think Mal is more of a tank-killing specialist, as odd as that may seem. With DFG and Null Zone he'll blast through like 80% of a tank's hp really quickly, which is nasty especially when considering there's absolutely nothing a tank can do about that. A well-placed silence and bind can also prevent the tank from ever initiating at all.

radmax86

United States437 Posts

June 07 2010 18:42 GMT

#125

I think they price heroes roughly on their difficulty to play. You will notice all of the 6300 heroes are pretty soft, and most have some skill shots and combos that are more difficult to execute for noobs.

Also, has everyone seen the "redtracker" on runeterra? http://redtracker.runeterra.com/
It filters all the forum posts just leaving the OP and any official responses from riot staff. I find it pretty useful to keep up to date with bugs, upcoming changes, etc.

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

June 07 2010 18:48 GMT

#126

Any one ever play with tictacs? He has 1k+ games with Ashe.
I'm wondering cause I saw hotshotgg play with him on the team and Tictacs was feeding like crazy and missing all of his skill shots.

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

June 07 2010 18:49 GMT

#127

Hadn't seen that before, but that's cool. Also rofl @ the teenager Annie discussion.

On that note I added a links of note section to the first post, if anyone has some others poke me about them.

Edit:
I've played with/against Tictacs like 4 times, he's actually been decent the 4 times I've seen him o_O And coming from a guy who's not particularly impressed by Hotshot it's a bit weird.

Edit2:
redtooth hates the fuck out of him, though, hahah.

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

June 07 2010 19:01 GMT

#128

How can you play more than 1k games with Ashe though O.o.
She has 3 abilities and 1 of them is a toggle.

edit: Hotshot is playing twitch again lol.

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

June 07 2010 19:04 GMT

#129

He has over 1k wins, and redtooth insinuates he's prolly got at least 1k losses, too. So we're looking at close to 2k game with Ashe, not just 1k.

Edit:
As I said, I thought he was decent. Nothing special, nothing terrible, just a bland hold-the-fort Ashe. Certainly not what you'd expect out of a player with at least 1.5k games playing one hero, and it might be my tanking that makes him look "sufficient" in the games he's been on my team.

Edit2:
Probably the most surprising player I've seen is this guy named something like SqZeEe1, the guy has like 200 wins but kicks serious ass with a hybrid AD Ezreal. He said he had better than a 2:1 win rate and I completely believe him.

Edit3:
It was SwooZeE1

radmax86

United States437 Posts

June 07 2010 19:07 GMT

#130

I think the leaguecraft champion builder is worth a link http://leaguecraft.com/champions
It looks like they have some other cool tools too, but I haven't really used them.

also lolbase.net for player stats. This can also be used to sorta reverse engineer a champion build of good players. I upload all my games just so I can reference them at a later date.

sLiniss

United States849 Posts

June 07 2010 19:18 GMT

#131

Ahhhh I've been playing this a lot with friends. Fav so far is alistar. Do pro players have a tier list yet?

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

June 07 2010 19:21 GMT

#132

I don't think there's a real consensus tier list anymore aside from Ez and Janna being at or very near the top.

rredtooth

5464 Posts

June 07 2010 20:08 GMT

#133

On June 08 2010 03:49 Southlight wrote:
Hadn't seen that before, but that's cool. Also rofl @ the teenager Annie discussion.

On that note I added a links of note section to the first post, if anyone has some others poke me about them.

Edit:
I've played with/against Tictacs like 4 times, he's actually been decent the 4 times I've seen him o_O And coming from a guy who's not particularly impressed by Hotshot it's a bit weird.

Edit2:
redtooth hates the fuck out of him, though, hahah.

zzzz i don't hate him. i think he's a cool guy. he's just not as good as his 1000 wins may indicate. he's a pretty funny kid though. once he played WW in one of my games (everybody was going WTF?!?!?!?!) and his first words were "like the new ashe skin?". had me laughing irl.

chauster and takashi play solid ezreals. slappie occasionally does but he's really inconsistent (sometimes he's legendary, sometimes he feeds). i've heard that jiji plays ezreal too.

edit: i just think tictacs is a good example of how experience =/= skill. as a matter of fact, i think his WW was better than his ashe. try out all heroes and see which one fits your style best.

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

June 07 2010 20:21 GMT

#134

Okay, redtooth badmouths the fuck out of him :D

rredtooth

5464 Posts

June 07 2010 20:28 GMT

#135

On June 08 2010 05:21 Southlight wrote:
Okay, redtooth badmouths the fuck out of him :D

he's lost me many a games.

Haemonculus

United States6980 Posts

June 07 2010 20:44 GMT

#136

Ohhh man as soon as the sc2 beta goes down, I'm going to be LoLing up a storm again!

Pigsquirrel

United States615 Posts

June 07 2010 20:49 GMT

#137

ID: Catriaa
Been playing for a few days, rape face with Ryze

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

June 07 2010 20:57 GMT

#138

tictac's ashe stats a few days ago were like 1050 wins 980 losses and his K/D was like 10100 and 9850. So he's quite awful for his elo.

Also, Eve is 1350 and not 3150.

One more thing, Guinsoo Rageblade rush on Tryndamere is sooo good. I've only played 2 games with him using that build and I'm a combined 10-0-12