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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 07 2010 23:01 GMT
#801
Not only that but by sports writers and pretty much anyone who knows anything about basketball.
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hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
May 07 2010 23:03 GMT
#802
oh christ more of the LBJ and kobe shit, i thought this was just trash discussed on yahoo answers or some shit
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 23:04:51
May 07 2010 23:03 GMT
#803
On May 08 2010 07:18 LaughingTulkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 05:45 city42 wrote:
On May 08 2010 05:05 InfeSteD wrote:
I hate comparing players when it comes to winning titles and such because then again this is a 5 v 5 sport right?

In all honesty, who do you think would win IF? Lebron was in the lakers and Kobe was in the Cavs and they played in the finals?

let alone being coached by the greatest?

Stop regurgitating this "5on5" nonsense. Basketball is the team sport where the individual has the most impact on a game. Tim Duncan won 4 titles without a single teammate being on an All-NBA team, and only one guy being an All-NBA defensive team member. Houston went back-to-back with Hakeem and a bunch of role players ('95 Drexler was a shadow of his Portland self). Kobe wasn't quite a star yet during the first Laker title run, and Shaq rampaged through the playoffs flanked by a fledgling Bryant and a washed up Glen Rice.

I know Utah had a pair of losers crumble in the playoffs for 20 straight years with average supporting casts, but that doesn't mean the other 29 teams have to be held to the same standard.


I wouldn't pick the spurs as your example of an individual having the most impact. If ever there was a team that would be used as an example of "team first" and a system being in place to make the team most successful rather than just being run by an individual, it would be the spurs. Each player has a role, and they do it well and don't try to be a star. Duncan on another crappy team would NOT have the same success as the spurs. The spurs win because they are a team first.

Your point my be correct, but not about the spurs at all.

They do play team basketball (more on the defensive end than anything), but during big games they lived and died with Timmy. His worst game of the '99 finals was the one they lost. They played a vastly inferior Minnesota team in 2001, and lost one game despite a very strong effort from the Admiral, with Duncan putting up a statline of 15/10/6TOs. Stats don't even represent Duncan's importance to the Spurs. He spearheads the communication on D and always has a habit of making solid decisions down the stretch. Moreover, having their leader stay calm and level-headed under duress is a huge boon for his supporting cast. In TD's prime, the Spurs would be a playoff team without any one of their components (even Parker/Ginobili), and probably a 27-55 team without Duncan. He meant more to his team than anyone else in the league during the Spurs dynasty years. There's a reason he took those MVPs away from Shaq despite having statistically inferior seasons.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 07 2010 23:07 GMT
#804
On to the next topic: Boston is goin up 2-1 today ^_^ GO CELTICS
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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
May 07 2010 23:15 GMT
#805
Shit should be 2-0 for them right now. They just need to close out when they have the Cavs down and out. Can't let those old bones get tired.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
May 07 2010 23:15 GMT
#806
On May 08 2010 01:14 RowdierBob wrote:
Amazing how much hate you guys give LeBron..

He's basically carrying a scrub .500 team to a possible NBA Championship and all you can focus on is the negative crap?

Put your Laker fanboyism away for 2 secs and just enjoy the man's game. Yeah he may be cocky, but if anyone deserves to be it's him. Could you imagine the damage he'd do if he had a team like the Celts/Lakers/Magic/even the Suns around him?

I know it hurts that Kobe isn't the best player in the NBA anymore, but it's time to move on. LBJ being MVP doesn't make Kobe any less of a player, so just sit back and enjoy the fun!


Heh :p, the average evaluations of Lebron's supporting cast are getting worse and worse with his playoff problems. If Boston wins the series the Cavs are going to be portrayed as worse than the Nets. They had a 60+ win team last year and improved it dramatically.

I do agree about who cares about Lebron vs. Kobe. It's Wade. :o
wtf was that signature
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
May 07 2010 23:16 GMT
#807
Celtics look like they deserve to win based on the first two games. They've outplayed them. Was kind of hoping they'd show that they're old and washed up but Rondo is keeping them looking young.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Wintermute
Profile Joined March 2010
United States427 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 23:38:11
May 07 2010 23:31 GMT
#808
On May 08 2010 01:14 RowdierBob wrote:
Amazing how much hate you guys give LeBron..

He's basically carrying a scrub .500 team to a possible NBA Championship and all you can focus on is the negative crap?


They're better than a ,500 team because of Jamison, and because Shaq is getting calls like the refs don't know he's a slow, washed up non jumping sack of turds. When Shaq is being allowed to throw his weight around the court then Cleveland is as good as any one, and when he's not... well, they're till pretty good. Chicago was a .500 team this year despite having a ton of important injuries, and gutting their roster to make free agent cap space. Cleveland without Lebron is at least as good as Chicago without Lebron, which makes them in all likelihood more like a .550 or .600 team.


I agree that Lebron is the best player in the NBA though. That's not exactly a controversial believe, judging by the MVP voting. Last year was probably the first year of his career where his game actually matched the hype. It will be interesting to see if the hype gets ratcheted even higher after this summer.
Don't let me say this, but you're no worse than me; it's crazy.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
May 07 2010 23:41 GMT
#809
end of 1st quarter, lebron MANHANDLING the celtics. Lebron = 21 points. Celtics team = 15 LOL
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 08 2010 00:13 GMT
#810
jesus Boston letting me down -.,-
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 08 2010 00:17 GMT
#811
Paul Pierce is a HUGE liability this game. On both ends of the court he's made some really bad decisions.

As for Lebron he isn;t the best because he hasn't won it all yet nor has he shown he has the killer instinct. Kobe and Wade both beat him here. Also using stats is a TERRIBLE idea on calling someone the best player in the league(have we forgotten Tracy McGrady?).

Lastly one of my major gripes with people calling Lebron the best is that people don't realize has no post game. He is a pure point forward that can dominate in iso's but gets crushed by fast wing defenders with paint patrol help (see Orlando, see 2008 Celtics, see Lakers). Lebron is great but he isn't complete YET. Stop giving him the pass when he hasn't earned it yet. Kobe and Wade are both offensively and defensively better than Lebron and both still throw up huge stat lines when they have to. Watch the games objectively and not from a fan standpoint and you'll realize why some people hate the hype. Just be fearful that he IS this good and hasn't even come close to his ceiling yet.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
May 08 2010 00:21 GMT
#812
I cannot wait for the Phoenix game; hopefully the Suns roll the Spurs back to the retirement home.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 00:48:27
May 08 2010 00:47 GMT
#813
Fucking a, when a team is shooting 60+ % there's nothing you can do ;; SIGHHHHHHHHh

and it's because I can almost guarantee that the number of people who've played competitive basketball at a high level in this thread is pretty low and the average fan doesn't know the game well enough to know what they're talking about :p

just like most SC2 commentators and spectators don't know anything.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 08 2010 01:00 GMT
#814
Well yea a lot of the people over the years that post in the NBA thread are full of it. But hey that's what makes it hilarious ^_^
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13385 Posts
May 08 2010 01:08 GMT
#815
Can someone explain how the NBA cap works (I've clearly misinterpreted). From stats I've seen, Kobe's salary is listed as ~$23 mill bs LBJ's ~$17 mill. I'm kinda confused now as to how it works.

Cheers!
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
May 08 2010 01:17 GMT
#816
On May 08 2010 10:08 RowdierBob wrote:
Can someone explain how the NBA cap works (I've clearly misinterpreted). From stats I've seen, Kobe's salary is listed as ~$23 mill bs LBJ's ~$17 mill. I'm kinda confused now as to how it works.

Cheers!


cheers!
w/e
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13385 Posts
May 08 2010 01:36 GMT
#817
Go Jazz.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
May 08 2010 01:39 GMT
#818
On May 08 2010 09:47 Xeris wrote:
Fucking a, when a team is shooting 60+ % there's nothing you can do ;; SIGHHHHHHHHh

and it's because I can almost guarantee that the number of people who've played competitive basketball at a high level in this thread is pretty low and the average fan doesn't know the game well enough to know what they're talking about :p

just like most SC2 commentators and spectators don't know anything.


i played year round basketball my whole life and started on varsity my junior year on a team with 80% seniors. basketball and starcraft composed the first 17 years of my life. got a bad case of patella tendonitis senior year.

u?
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13385 Posts
May 08 2010 01:42 GMT
#819
I used to play A LOT of NBA 96 back in the day.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States623 Posts
May 08 2010 01:44 GMT
#820
Wow cavs shutting up all the lebron haters on this board. 31 point lead IN BOSTON? I know game 2 wasn't pretty but this was just pathetic on the Celtics part.
R. Allen G 35:19 2-9 0-1

P. Pierce F 35:32 4-15 1-5

Cavs out rebound the celtics by 15....
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