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MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
October 17 2011 19:31 GMT
#2481
Viscant is good, but people don't want to admit a Phoenix player could ever be good because then they would have to admit that they aren't actually as serious about winning as they claim to be.
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instantnoodles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States190 Posts
October 17 2011 19:55 GMT
#2482
i think jwong said something similar but viscant isnt necessarily good, but he's smart. his team composition is smart. he has wesker a good point character, haggar one of the best defensive, invincible assists, and phoenix. his phoenix isnt that good, especially compared to fchamp.

if you look at other phoenix players, they can play their other two characters very well. flocker has a good keep away zero with tron, fchamp has dormamu comebacks, and clockwork has the best doom. if any of these guys lose phoenix, i dont get worried. for viscant, if he loses phoenix, i do get worried. he just relies on that wesker haggar mixup in the corner
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
October 17 2011 19:57 GMT
#2483
he relies on wesker hagger mix ups all the time not just in the corner although he abuses the shit out of that when poeple come in. But what team combination doesn't use some bullshit mix up or unblockable upon incoming characters.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
October 17 2011 23:28 GMT
#2484
I think Viscant has one of the best weskers and just because his phoenix isn't as flashy as others, hes still a top tier phoenix player. Whether he puts tron or haggar as middle he obviously puts them there for his assists only. He has plenty of execution so it comes down to how smart you play, and obviously he plays extremely smart.

Haters aside, if I was picking a fantasy marvel player team, Viscant would probably be my first choice.

I look forward to see how players adjust to Ultimate... I mean every top tier tier whores to some extent. Either they have Wolvie, Wesker, Akuma... tron or haggar, or Phoenix.. or uses a DHC glitch.

Less than a month for Ultimate to get here!
Chance favors the prepared mind.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 23:47:31
October 17 2011 23:38 GMT
#2485
viscant is a smart player i mean he just doesn't mash shit out he waits and times crap so it goes in his favor people just harsh him for using phoenix and not being super flashy like clock who has a stylining doom and ammy with his phoenix.

But yeah all top marvel players are tier whores because you can't win if you aren't one, at least 2 of your team needs to be that bullshit teleport/invincibility mix up really hard to block shit.

I mean look at players
noel is just all teir whore and admits it he picked a team to win
jwong even using his storm team still has wesker and akuma, mostly using akuma to poke at people with it's projectile invincible assist then when it hits, hit confirming it into a combo.
PR balrog uses wolvie and tron, i say dantae is high but not abuser tier, has alot of shit and mix up's but you don't see too many people being great at him, they just style alot.

just look at evo

1. Viscant (Wesker, Haggar, Phoenix)
2. DMG|PR Balrog (Dante, Wolverine, Tron)
3. EG|Justin Wong (She-Hulk, Wolverine, Akuma)
4. cc.coL|Combofiend (She-Hulk, Taskmaster, Spencer)
5. UVG|Noel Brown (Wolverine, Wesker, Akuma)
5. cc.coL|Filipino Champ (Magneto, Sentinel, Phoenix)
7. Mine (Wesker, Taskmaster, Phoenix)
7. X-Ray (Dante, Amaterasu, Magneto)
9. Clockw0rk (Doctor Doom, Amaterasu, Phoenix)
9. EMP|Sanford Kelly (Storm, Wesker, Akuma)
9. Richard Nguyen (Wolverine, Dante, Haggar)
9. Marn (Magneto, Zero, Akuma)
13. Flocker (Zero, Phoenix, Tron)
13. HORI|AndyOCR (Storm, Sentinel, Haggar)
13. EG|fLoE (She-Hulk, Wolverine, Akuma)
13. Stone (Zero, Wesker, Dormammu)
17. TL|Fanatiq (Magneto, Storm, Sentinel)
17. LB|ChrisGNY (Amaterasu, Ryu, Wesker)
17. Moose (She-Hulk, Magneto, Tron)
17. EMP|Evil Rahsaan (Spider-Man, Sentinel, Phoenix)
17. CCG|Detrimantix (Wolverine, Sentinel, Phoenix)
17. Xian (Wesker, Magneto, Akuma)
17. Y2J (Magneto, Wolverine, Akuma)
17. Crispy Tacos (Dante, Taskmaster, Felicia)
25. KillerKai (Zero, Wesker, Taskmaster)
25. Nefelious (Wolverine, Sentinel, Phoenix)
25. Cheech Wizard (Haggar, Taskmaster, Doctor Doom)
25. EMP|Remix (Magneto, Wolverine, Sentinel)
25. RyRy (Magneto, Zero, Spider-man/Akuma)
25. HORI|Tatsu (X-23, Deadpool, Sentinel)
25. GCYoshi13 (Chris, Spencer, Sentinel)
25. DacidBro (Dante, Taskmaster, Akuma)

Magneto 9
Sentinel 9
wolverine 9
wesker 8
phoenix 8
akuma 8
Taskmaster 6
Zero 5
dante 5
haggar 4
tron 4
she-hulk 4
Amaterasu 3
Storm 3
Spider-man 2
Doc Doom 2
spencer 2
Dormammu 1
Ryu 1
Felicia 1
x-23 1
deadpool 1
chris 1


Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
October 18 2011 00:38 GMT
#2486
Viscant has one of the better Phoenix mirrors though, but he's never been a quick reaction or mechanical player in that sense, his play is based off of setups, this was also the case in Marvel 2.

The reason Fchamp is good at Phoenix is the sick front back and high low mixups (Marn's Zero is this way as well, if you see how many times he sets up crossunders and high low teleport mixups), a lot of this teleport mixing up comes from his Dhalsim mind games in my opinion.

I wouldn't say Champs phoenix is necessarily better though, given that in the times they've faced each other, Viscant has won almost every (phoenix vs pheonix) match I think, same with Viscant vs Clockwork and the other socal phoenix players.
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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
October 22 2011 02:56 GMT
#2487


Notice Flocker's shirt.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
October 22 2011 03:30 GMT
#2488
On October 22 2011 11:56 O-ops wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9x1aN6TFBo&feature=channel_video_title

Notice Flocker's shirt.


I wonder if he is going to change his team up in Ultimate seeing as how Tron assist got nerfed as well as Phoenix/Dark Pheonix.
Twitter: @KingKosi
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
October 22 2011 03:40 GMT
#2489
He's gonna swap out Phoenix for Megaman.

Callin it rite here.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
October 22 2011 05:45 GMT
#2490
Except the fact there is no megaman lol ;o Sarcasm is lost on the internet !

He seems like a good guy, should see him grabbing good sponsors now. Props to him!
Chance favors the prepared mind.
IpKaiFung
Profile Joined September 2007
United Kingdom91 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 21:19:43
October 22 2011 21:19 GMT
#2491
IFC Yipes marvel invitational is on later today 7pm EST

Shoryuken Thread - http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/oct-22-2011-the-curly-mustache-tournament-series-hosted-by-ifc-yipes-brooklyn-ny.147779/#post-6021256

Stream on http://www.twitch.tv/teamsp00ky
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
October 23 2011 00:07 GMT
#2492
Holy shit, epic commentary. As expected by Yipes.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1936 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 07:32:32
October 23 2011 07:28 GMT
#2493
awesome tournament


If you watch only one match, Chris G vs RogueYoshi game 1

O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
October 27 2011 02:41 GMT
#2494
http://shoryuken.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/SBKara3.jpg

lmao
Fan of the Jangbanger
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
October 30 2011 22:26 GMT
#2495
Lol ^ that picture is instant classic.

On a serious note... reading the changelog at shoryuken dot com... one thing makes me kinda sick. The "big wesker nerf" is just lowering his hp to 1m (lol?) and giving him more tools to pwn... Wesker is perhaps stronger now, GOD i hate that sonofabitch.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 31 2011 02:29 GMT
#2496
On October 27 2011 11:41 O-ops wrote:
http://shoryuken.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/SBKara3.jpg

lmao


is that the mash A part???
Forever Young
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
October 31 2011 08:29 GMT
#2497
Yep. Look at Viscant's finger.
Fan of the Jangbanger
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 31 2011 14:30 GMT
#2498
On October 31 2011 17:29 O-ops wrote:
Yep. Look at Viscant's finger.


aaaah yea

random discussion, but am i the only one who kept the layout like kinda mvc2 (top BCa1 bottom ASa2). most ppl i know went ABC top bottom Sa1a2. maybe just my natrual habit from mvc2 to mash shortx2 psyblade :p

was just curiousity
Forever Young
FuTuRe89
Profile Joined March 2011
20 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 17:22:02
October 31 2011 17:21 GMT
#2499
On October 31 2011 23:30 sung_moon wrote:

aaaah yea

random discussion, but am i the only one who kept the layout like kinda mvc2 (top BCa1 bottom ASa2). most ppl i know went ABC top bottom Sa1a2. maybe just my natrual habit from mvc2 to mash shortx2 psyblade :p

was just curiousity


I would say most people from mvc2 switched (myself included). I know yipes said during a tourney that he tried to do mvc2 controls in the beginning but decided that ABC top, Sa1a2 bottom just worked better in mvc3.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1936 Posts
October 31 2011 18:42 GMT
#2500
On October 31 2011 23:30 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 17:29 O-ops wrote:
Yep. Look at Viscant's finger.


aaaah yea

random discussion, but am i the only one who kept the layout like kinda mvc2 (top BCa1 bottom ASa2). most ppl i know went ABC top bottom Sa1a2. maybe just my natrual habit from mvc2 to mash shortx2 psyblade :p

was just curiousity


I had to switch or I would never be able to play the characters even half correctly. hard enough to get used to slow fly sentinel, if the buttons were the same I'd be doomed.

Raccoon doesn't have an ahvb... I am disappoint.
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