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screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 22:11:07
July 06 2013 22:08 GMT
#2581
On July 07 2013 05:40 andrewlt wrote:
What? Isn't the 4-city tradition/NC opening already the most optimal way to play, especially in the higher difficulties? From what I see, people just puppet everything after 4 cities.


I've never followed a decent 4 city Trad opening, but it's supposed to be good from what I hear. On the other hand, I'm off to my best start ever with what is so far a faceroll with ICS. Almost stupid broken imo, so that change sounds like it would help fix that at least. :D Although you can probably get a quicker win if you're good at going tall I guess.
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
July 07 2013 00:06 GMT
#2582
On July 07 2013 07:08 screamingpalm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 05:40 andrewlt wrote:
What? Isn't the 4-city tradition/NC opening already the most optimal way to play, especially in the higher difficulties? From what I see, people just puppet everything after 4 cities.


I've never followed a decent 4 city Trad opening, but it's supposed to be good from what I hear. On the other hand, I'm off to my best start ever with what is so far a faceroll with ICS. Almost stupid broken imo, so that change sounds like it would help fix that at least. :D Although you can probably get a quicker win if you're good at going tall I guess.


Playing G&K? They went to great lengths to virtually nerf ICS into oblivion.
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screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
July 07 2013 03:07 GMT
#2583
On July 07 2013 09:06 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 07:08 screamingpalm wrote:
On July 07 2013 05:40 andrewlt wrote:
What? Isn't the 4-city tradition/NC opening already the most optimal way to play, especially in the higher difficulties? From what I see, people just puppet everything after 4 cities.


I've never followed a decent 4 city Trad opening, but it's supposed to be good from what I hear. On the other hand, I'm off to my best start ever with what is so far a faceroll with ICS. Almost stupid broken imo, so that change sounds like it would help fix that at least. :D Although you can probably get a quicker win if you're good at going tall I guess.


Playing G&K? They went to great lengths to virtually nerf ICS into oblivion.


Yeah G&K, didn't know they already nerfed it. :D Using this strategy and is working well so far in my game.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=473168
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
July 07 2013 03:08 GMT
#2584
On July 07 2013 05:40 andrewlt wrote:
What? Isn't the 4-city tradition/NC opening already the most optimal way to play, especially in the higher difficulties? From what I see, people just puppet everything after 4 cities.

I rarely succeed in beating the game on immortal with a 4 city NC pre 100. Usually its either 3 cities because the ai is too close and then catchup or some kind of rush on the nearest ai.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 07 2013 03:16 GMT
#2585
On July 07 2013 12:08 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 05:40 andrewlt wrote:
What? Isn't the 4-city tradition/NC opening already the most optimal way to play, especially in the higher difficulties? From what I see, people just puppet everything after 4 cities.

I rarely succeed in beating the game on immortal with a 4 city NC pre 100. Usually its either 3 cities because the ai is too close and then catchup or some kind of rush on the nearest ai.

Yeah, I agree. I very rarely bother planting 4 cities before NC. It's just too dangerous in most situations.
VirtuallyJesse
Profile Joined February 2011
United States398 Posts
July 07 2013 04:00 GMT
#2586
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 07 2013 04:44 GMT
#2587
Anyone noticed, in the us, predownloads yet?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
July 07 2013 05:03 GMT
#2588
why didnt they release it for the long weekend god damnit, i want to play now, not in another 48 hours.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
July 07 2013 06:28 GMT
#2589
Ohh no, you have to wait 48 hours.... How sad..

I only have to wait till the 12th, because fuck Europe apparently!
"Yeah buddy"
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
July 07 2013 07:13 GMT
#2590
thats what you get for all your sweet free healthcare and university education!
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 08:28:18
July 07 2013 07:46 GMT
#2591
You gotta love Canada then (let's say Quebec for University, not sure how much higher it costs elsewhere).
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
July 07 2013 09:32 GMT
#2592
In Denmark they get *paid* to go to University, we only get 'relatively' affordable tuition compared to the Americans. Which is why I assume Firaxis is taking revenge for us all on Europe.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 17:18:53
July 07 2013 17:18 GMT
#2593
WTF is this:

"This game will unlock in approximately 1 day and 11 hours"


Just unlock past midnight EST!
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 07 2013 17:20 GMT
#2594
I'm still waiting for GMG to send me a key to pre-load the game. =(
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
July 07 2013 20:15 GMT
#2595
Haven't much experience with GMG for steam activated pre-order. Maybe they send you automaticaly on release.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 02:34:38
July 08 2013 02:34 GMT
#2596
So apparently nobody knows when BNW is coming out. Steam says the 8th, which is less than two hours away, but it also says it unlocks in 26 hours which would be the 9th.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 08 2013 02:55 GMT
#2597
On July 08 2013 11:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So apparently nobody knows when BNW is coming out. Steam says the 8th, which is less than two hours away, but it also says it unlocks in 26 hours which would be the 9th.


It would make sense to unlock on Monday though.... Tuesday is a but odd.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 08 2013 03:04 GMT
#2598
On July 08 2013 11:55 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 11:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So apparently nobody knows when BNW is coming out. Steam says the 8th, which is less than two hours away, but it also says it unlocks in 26 hours which would be the 9th.


It would make sense to unlock on Monday though.... Tuesday is a but odd.


CoH2 unlocked on Tuesday. That was the last steamworks game to be released to my knowledge.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 08 2013 03:04 GMT
#2599
On July 08 2013 11:55 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 11:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So apparently nobody knows when BNW is coming out. Steam says the 8th, which is less than two hours away, but it also says it unlocks in 26 hours which would be the 9th.


It would make sense to unlock on Monday though.... Tuesday is a but odd.

New games are always released on Tuesdays at midnight. In other words, we gotta wait another 25 hours.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
July 08 2013 03:42 GMT
#2600
On July 08 2013 11:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So apparently nobody knows when BNW is coming out. Steam says the 8th, which is less than two hours away, but it also says it unlocks in 26 hours which would be the 9th.

I'd trust the countdown that goes along with the 10% off sale. So a bit less than 24 hours from now.
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