Strikeforce Evolution - December 19th - Page 4
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AoN.DimSum
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udgnim
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ColdLava
Canada1673 Posts
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ColdLava
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Anthony Njokuani, who defeated Horodecki via TKO, said Horodecki’s move to run across the cage to create distance was ill-advised, creating an opening for a head kick that led to the finish. “That was the dumbest move he made,” Njokuani said. “A guy like me, with long giraffe legs, it’s going to come in from a long way.” http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Cerrone-Apologizes-to-Ratcliffs-Mother-21684 | ||
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ColdLava
Canada1673 Posts
I like this guy :D He's very honest and descriptive and I like it when athletes are like that. | ||
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
On December 20 2009 14:08 Boblion wrote: Having a big heart doesn't make you a legend. smith is just another tough guy with a good chin ;/ edit: and yeah king mo is the shit haha | ||
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ThatGuy
Canada695 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
In hindsight I found the matchmaking in that fight to be questionable. Chris is only 22 and has plenty of time to make a name, I am surprised they didn't give him a BJJ guy with no takedowns to start with. I'm really beginning to question the training these days from Xtreme Couture. Most of their fighters are in a slump, and there has been alot of rumblings about problems with the leadership there. Chris making a mistake like that makes me question how intense these guys are being prepared for fights. They all seem very lax lately, like they have had a bunch of yes men scream in thier ear there is no way they can lose during camp. Just speculation tho. All the fights kicked ass tho! Awesome way to send off the year! And I am impressed with Strikeforce's roster at this point, if they can figure out how to make a good broadcast (their fights rock, the rest.... not so much) they might get big. | ||
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bigsack
Korea (North)220 Posts
On December 20 2009 14:02 udgnim wrote: Cung Le really shouldn't have put himself in a position to get KOed he could have easily stayed in kicking range and out of punching range for the 3rd round since Smith had absolutely no answer on how to handle Cung's kicks oh well. I think Cung Le is just really difficult to fight against because of his repertoire of kicks, but I don't think it would work out against the top MW fighters although Scott Smith just beat him... I totally agree. Had he stayed out of range for the last 1 min and 40 secs and just keep kicking, he had that win. FUCK WHY DID HE WENT IN CLOSE?! GOD I HATE THIS! But he seems like he's out of gas near the end. DAMMIT!!! | ||
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ColdLava
Canada1673 Posts
On December 21 2009 11:35 Diamondback2 wrote: I'm really beginning to question the training these days from Xtreme Couture. Most of their fighters are in a slump, and there has been alot of rumblings about problems with the leadership there. Chris making a mistake like that makes me question how intense these guys are being prepared for fights. They all seem very lax lately, like they have had a bunch of yes men scream in thier ear there is no way they can lose during camp. Just speculation tho. Until just just recently, Shawn Tompkins was their MMA trainer. He was also Horodecki's trainer and has gone as far as saying "I believe this kid is the next fedor" about Horodecki. Here's Tompkins stats as an MMA fighter himself: Loss 0-4 Joel Leblanc TKO (Strikes) UCC 6 10/19/2001 | round 1, 2:38 Loss 0-3 David Loiseau TKO (Punches) UCC 4 5/12/2001 | round 1, 1:26 Loss 0-2 Steve Vigneault TKO (Punches) UCC 2 8/12/2000 | round 1, 2:43 Loss 0-1 Matt Rocca TKO (Punches) UCC 1 6/2/2001 | round 1, 8:50 | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On the other hand some awesome players / fighters would be terribles coaches lol. That's two different jobs even if they are related. | ||
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Smoov
United States37 Posts
On December 20 2009 16:15 udgnim wrote: this happened in the WEC event. ![]() who are the fighters in this gif?? | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On December 21 2009 20:20 Boblion wrote: You can suck as a player / fighter and be a good trainer imo. On the other hand some awesome players / fighters would be terribles coaches lol. That's two different jobs even if they are related. his is very true, point in case: Trainer: Greg Jackson, dude has never fought, but his camp produces monsters. Fighter: Ken Shamrock, ok so maybe he's not doing to well on that fighter part in the last 6 or whatever years. But even when he was good, the Lions Den has never produced anyone sweet since like 2002. And Ken showed why on TUF 3, he's a terrible coach, he didn't even bring in a BJJ guy for fucks sake... That being said I should re-phrase my comment about Xtreme Couture. It seems like the camp has lost it's fire, the fighters seem to be slumping and showing up with bad gameplans or making weird mistakes like Chris and Forrest did. Forrest opening with a 1-2 Head Kick (as mentioned by Rogan) against Silva was just bizarre. All that did was give away the timing of his 2 most common punches, and one of his best offensive tools in his kicks. Silva is known for using the opening to figure out timing, you just played into his strength. The Chris thing again shows me a lack of intensity in the training camp, you will NEVER see a guy from Chute Box make that mistake for example. I'm not the first person to make this accusation, several former Xtreme Couture fighters were the ones that brought this to light originally. | ||
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omgbnetsux
United States3749 Posts
Anthony Njokuani, who defeated Horodecki via TKO, said Horodecki’s move to run across the cage to create distance was ill-advised, creating an opening for a head kick that led to the finish. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
Starting at 5:40.. So my question: Is M.Coleman fucking retarted !? How on earth can one.. ( If an admin feels this is too off topic or doesnt belong here.. he may delete my post but I saw this and just thought i had to share it.. cause it disturbed me on a whole different level than bad cuts or really bad K.O's sometimes ( rarely ) do.. ) wtf !? ( 5:40 ) | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On December 22 2009 03:45 MaGic~PhiL wrote: I KNOW this is ''OLD'' but I stumbled up on it when watching some older fights of Pride Starting at 5:40.. So my question: Is M.Coleman fucking retarted !? How on earth can one.. I really expected to see this video once I read ur comment + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oCnqy8Klaw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oCnqy8Klaw I don't know how calming down his children is retarded. If anything you may have actually pointed to one of the most genuine touching moments in MMA. His girls were scared shitless thinking the big bad Russian monster had hurt their Daddy, and he manages to calm them down by showing he is ok, and Fedor is a cyborg with manners, not a monster tho. Moments like those in this sport are rare and it honestly brought a smile to my face, that is one of the few Mark Coleman incidents where he acted like a professional, and a downright great father. I don't understand what your problem is with that. it also generated one of the most memorable pictures in all of MMA (don't have it offhand). But back to Strikeforce if they got Bas and Kenny Rice (or Quadros would work too) in the booth and removed all the other they would be alot better off. Bas is one of the top 2 commentators in my eyes (Rogan being 1), he is funny, and he knows the sport better than any other commentator. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
thats just sad but Im really looking forward to further responses just in order to see if Im the only one.. Its shocking me u dont even seem to understand what I mean.. | ||
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Onisparda
Canada516 Posts
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TheMusiC
United States1054 Posts
![]() looked like a nice guy being a nice guy to me. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On December 22 2009 08:10 MaGic~PhiL wrote: wow u totally didnt get it.. thats just sad but Im really looking forward to further responses just in order to see if Im the only one.. Its shocking me u dont even seem to understand what I mean.. it's not shocking to me that no one has a clue wtf u r talking about. at 5:40 in the video coleman is hugging his girls..... so either stop being ominous and tell us what ur looking at, or just stop, cause no one sees it..... | ||
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