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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
December 20 2009 05:25 GMT
#61
OMG i remember that fight, both guys didnt get up for awhile. Im pretty sure sell got up before smith too LOL
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
December 20 2009 07:15 GMT
#62
this happened in the WEC event.

[image loading]

E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
December 20 2009 12:08 GMT
#63
Yeah I watched that fight. I'm aware that he was simply trying to make space for himself but that seemed like an extremely desperate and, well, stupid move.
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
December 20 2009 12:09 GMT
#64
Actually:

Anthony Njokuani, who defeated Horodecki via TKO, said Horodecki’s move to run across the cage to create distance was ill-advised, creating an opening for a head kick that led to the finish.

“That was the dumbest move he made,” Njokuani said. “A guy like me, with long giraffe legs, it’s going to come in from a long way.”


http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Cerrone-Apologizes-to-Ratcliffs-Mother-21684
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
December 20 2009 12:47 GMT
#65
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/King-Mo-Wants-Fedor-21692

I like this guy :D He's very honest and descriptive and I like it when athletes are like that.
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 17:14:06
December 20 2009 17:12 GMT
#66
On December 20 2009 14:08 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2009 14:06 Magic84 wrote:
On December 20 2009 14:02 Boblion wrote:
On December 20 2009 14:01 Magic84 wrote:
Smith is a legend. Yet another impossible KO comeback.

Are you kiddin he isn't a legend lol.
He is not even top 10 in his weightclass.
Cung Le is entairtaining but he is HIGHLY overated and old anyway. However i'm happy that he ended this imposture.

Who cares, he comes back with a KO all the time, he has giant heart. He's more awesome than a lot of guys in so called top 10.

Having a big heart doesn't make you a legend.


smith is just another tough guy with a good chin ;/

edit: and yeah king mo is the shit haha
r.i.p. Bud Shank May 27, 1926 - April 2, 2009
ThatGuy
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada695 Posts
December 20 2009 21:42 GMT
#67
I watched both the WEC and Strikeforce events at the same time (WEC on bigscreen TV, Strikeforce stream to the left of it) with a bunch of friends and I have to say that both events definitely delivered! I thought nearly every fight was worth watching.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
December 21 2009 02:35 GMT
#68
I was so disappointed in Horodecki, what a D- level mistake to make on a stage like that.

In hindsight I found the matchmaking in that fight to be questionable. Chris is only 22 and has plenty of time to make a name, I am surprised they didn't give him a BJJ guy with no takedowns to start with.

I'm really beginning to question the training these days from Xtreme Couture. Most of their fighters are in a slump, and there has been alot of rumblings about problems with the leadership there. Chris making a mistake like that makes me question how intense these guys are being prepared for fights. They all seem very lax lately, like they have had a bunch of yes men scream in thier ear there is no way they can lose during camp. Just speculation tho.

All the fights kicked ass tho! Awesome way to send off the year!

And I am impressed with Strikeforce's roster at this point, if they can figure out how to make a good broadcast (their fights rock, the rest.... not so much) they might get big.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
bigsack
Profile Joined August 2007
Korea (North)220 Posts
December 21 2009 04:40 GMT
#69
On December 20 2009 14:02 udgnim wrote:
Cung Le really shouldn't have put himself in a position to get KOed

he could have easily stayed in kicking range and out of punching range for the 3rd round since Smith had absolutely no answer on how to handle Cung's kicks

oh well. I think Cung Le is just really difficult to fight against because of his repertoire of kicks, but I don't think it would work out against the top MW fighters although Scott Smith just beat him...


I totally agree. Had he stayed out of range for the last 1 min and 40 secs and just keep kicking, he had that win. FUCK WHY DID HE WENT IN CLOSE?! GOD I HATE THIS! But he seems like he's out of gas near the end. DAMMIT!!!
Hilary Clinton for 2008
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
December 21 2009 11:13 GMT
#70
On December 21 2009 11:35 Diamondback2 wrote:
I'm really beginning to question the training these days from Xtreme Couture. Most of their fighters are in a slump, and there has been alot of rumblings about problems with the leadership there. Chris making a mistake like that makes me question how intense these guys are being prepared for fights. They all seem very lax lately, like they have had a bunch of yes men scream in thier ear there is no way they can lose during camp. Just speculation tho.


Until just just recently, Shawn Tompkins was their MMA trainer. He was also Horodecki's trainer and has gone as far as saying "I believe this kid is the next fedor" about Horodecki.

Here's Tompkins stats as an MMA fighter himself:

Loss 0-4 Joel Leblanc TKO (Strikes) UCC 6 10/19/2001 | round 1, 2:38
Loss 0-3 David Loiseau TKO (Punches) UCC 4 5/12/2001 | round 1, 1:26
Loss 0-2 Steve Vigneault TKO (Punches) UCC 2 8/12/2000 | round 1, 2:43
Loss 0-1 Matt Rocca TKO (Punches) UCC 1 6/2/2001 | round 1, 8:50

Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 11:20:37
December 21 2009 11:20 GMT
#71
You can suck as a player / fighter and be a good trainer imo.
On the other hand some awesome players / fighters would be terribles coaches lol.

That's two different jobs even if they are related.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Smoov
Profile Joined May 2007
United States37 Posts
December 21 2009 13:11 GMT
#72
On December 20 2009 16:15 udgnim wrote:
this happened in the WEC event.

[image loading]


who are the fighters in this gif??
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 17:34:42
December 21 2009 17:32 GMT
#73
On December 21 2009 20:20 Boblion wrote:
You can suck as a player / fighter and be a good trainer imo.
On the other hand some awesome players / fighters would be terribles coaches lol.

That's two different jobs even if they are related.


his is very true, point in case:

Trainer: Greg Jackson, dude has never fought, but his camp produces monsters.

Fighter: Ken Shamrock, ok so maybe he's not doing to well on that fighter part in the last 6 or whatever years. But even when he was good, the Lions Den has never produced anyone sweet since like 2002. And Ken showed why on TUF 3, he's a terrible coach, he didn't even bring in a BJJ guy for fucks sake...

That being said I should re-phrase my comment about Xtreme Couture.

It seems like the camp has lost it's fire, the fighters seem to be slumping and showing up with bad gameplans or making weird mistakes like Chris and Forrest did. Forrest opening with a 1-2 Head Kick (as mentioned by Rogan) against Silva was just bizarre. All that did was give away the timing of his 2 most common punches, and one of his best offensive tools in his kicks. Silva is known for using the opening to figure out timing, you just played into his strength.

The Chris thing again shows me a lack of intensity in the training camp, you will NEVER see a guy from Chute Box make that mistake for example.

I'm not the first person to make this accusation, several former Xtreme Couture fighters were the ones that brought this to light originally.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
December 21 2009 18:15 GMT
#74
On December 21 2009 22:11 Smoov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2009 16:15 udgnim wrote:
this happened in the WEC event.

who are the fighters in this gif??

Anthony Njokuani, who defeated Horodecki via TKO, said Horodecki’s move to run across the cage to create distance was ill-advised, creating an opening for a head kick that led to the finish.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 21 2009 18:45 GMT
#75
I KNOW this is ''OLD'' but I stumbled up on it when watching some older fights of Pride
Starting at 5:40..

So my question: Is M.Coleman fucking retarted !? How on earth can one..

( If an admin feels this is too off topic or doesnt belong here.. he may delete my post but I saw this and just thought i had to share it.. cause it disturbed me on a whole different level than bad cuts or really bad K.O's sometimes ( rarely ) do.. )

wtf !?

( 5:40 )
hatred outlives the hateful
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 20:31:52
December 21 2009 20:31 GMT
#76
On December 22 2009 03:45 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
I KNOW this is ''OLD'' but I stumbled up on it when watching some older fights of Pride
Starting at 5:40..

So my question: Is M.Coleman fucking retarted !? How on earth can one..


I really expected to see this video once I read ur comment
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oCnqy8Klaw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oCnqy8Klaw


I don't know how calming down his children is retarded. If anything you may have actually pointed to one of the most genuine touching moments in MMA. His girls were scared shitless thinking the big bad Russian monster had hurt their Daddy, and he manages to calm them down by showing he is ok, and Fedor is a cyborg with manners, not a monster tho.

Moments like those in this sport are rare and it honestly brought a smile to my face, that is one of the few Mark Coleman incidents where he acted like a professional, and a downright great father.

I don't understand what your problem is with that. it also generated one of the most memorable pictures in all of MMA (don't have it offhand).

But back to Strikeforce if they got Bas and Kenny Rice (or Quadros would work too) in the booth and removed all the other they would be alot better off. Bas is one of the top 2 commentators in my eyes (Rogan being 1), he is funny, and he knows the sport better than any other commentator.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 21 2009 23:10 GMT
#77
wow u totally didnt get it..
thats just sad but Im really looking forward to further responses just in order to see if Im the only one..

Its shocking me u dont even seem to understand what I mean..
hatred outlives the hateful
Onisparda
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada516 Posts
December 21 2009 23:24 GMT
#78
Looks like I dont get it either, saw nothing wrong there.
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
December 22 2009 02:00 GMT
#79
...yeah, i have no idea what you're talking about

looked like a nice guy being a nice guy to me.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
December 22 2009 02:06 GMT
#80
On December 22 2009 08:10 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
wow u totally didnt get it..
thats just sad but Im really looking forward to further responses just in order to see if Im the only one..

Its shocking me u dont even seem to understand what I mean..


it's not shocking to me that no one has a clue wtf u r talking about.

at 5:40 in the video coleman is hugging his girls.....

so either stop being ominous and tell us what ur looking at, or just stop, cause no one sees it.....
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
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