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capek
United States585 Posts
guess it was for the better... | ||
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Im-JaY
Canada69 Posts
btw, That is a really cool pic in the OP. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
Anyways if TL is so upset why not tell their best possible contact to change WCG, Tasteless? He's casting in WCG, lives in Korea, knows people in the proscene, etc. I'm sure if anyone connected to the foreign SC scene has a chance to change WCG it would be him. On a side note while I'm sure there are more valid fighting games than DOA, but I did see on TV there were progamers that play DOA. The way they live is similar to the way Korean SC progamers live, in dorms , practicing with each other, etc. | ||
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Phantom
Canada2151 Posts
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jaesung
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No_eL
Chile1438 Posts
its sad for all the gamers around the world dont have a real tournament and organization for test our habilities and knowledge. i hope tha in a short time, the situation reverts, all want a real e-sport fest!! | ||
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hideo
Canada1641 Posts
this was a great, informative read. | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
WCG Central gives power to local WCG org --> Local WCG org. is run by morons who don't give a fuck about competitive gaming and WCG itself and are there to squeeze some easy bucks --> Morons who don't give a crap about the event itself try to attract sponsors, who can clearly notice this guys have no fucking idea what they are trying to sell them --> they kick moronic representatives out of their offices. I wonder if WCG Central could get more involved in the local organisers, like send a supervisor or something. But right now their way of acting is more like: let's give them full responsability and see what money they can drag in by fall. Oh, btw, you guys all realise that the only reason we still have BW in WCG it's because Samsung is the biggest sponsor of WCG(actually I think Samsung owns the majority of WCG)? And not including the national esport would be like not giving the progaming they are so proud of any recognition at all. Had it not been for Samsung, BW would have been gone from the WCG game lineups a long time ago. Then again, hadn't it been for Samsung, we wouldn't even have WCG in the first place. | ||
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
I was so angry about WCG Canada. Quite great article, pretty good read. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
However, the comments on the game selection is a little off.. Your obviously going to be biased cause of your game preference, and I will be the first to say that SC BW is the best competitive game ever, but does it really mean other games shouldn't be played internationally?? That's like saying that no games should have a chance but yours. Halo for example is a pretty established competitive FPS, and there is a clear skill gap between the pros and the am bracket, its not the best FPS ever, and Halo 3 is actually less competitive then Halo 1, but its still a good game. However WCG is a joke as far as halo community is concerned, not a single top 16 team attended from the US, I could have probably came in top three if my team had attended.. Canada had one top 16 team attend... but mostly due to the scheduling. Who schedules a WCG qualifier the same weekend as the playoffs for seeds for the national championships happen in Dallas??? Now the U.S.A., the only place Halo is played as far as the competitive gaming world goes, is not going to medal.. Fail on WCG's part. | ||
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gondolin
France332 Posts
Thanks to gondolin for filling in the holes for the war3 part, and Beside_kr for pointing out my mistake! (it was 2006, not 2007) No problem, if you want more information about it, this discussion resume well what happened: http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-52462.html + Show Spoiler + Frozgard 11-26-2005, 06:52 PM Some of you may have followed the discussions that arose from the fact that one of the players in WCG apparently had never played a game of Warcraft 3 in his life. This person was representing Luxembourg and was playing under the country's nickname. Here is a bit of information that I managed to glean from forums about gaming in Luxembourg. First of all, a non-profit organisation called LESF (http://www.lesf.lu/) ( Luxembourg Electronic Sports Federation) contacted the WCG organisers to hold a national qualifier in Luxembourg. By default, only one spot was open for the country, with the possibility of having more spots at the national organiser's expense. Since LESF is pretty new and sponsorship for gaming is hard to come by, they planned to send only one player to Singapour. However, apparently they didn't know which game the spot was for. So they held off organising a qualifier until they would know which game it would be for. Also, they didn't talk about the spot nor the possibility that one gamer may be able to represent the country in the international finals. So nobody except the few organisers knew what was going on at the time. Then, three days before the WCG Finals were about to start, they recieved confirmation that the spot was in fact for Warcraft III. Now, the organisers didn't publicise this either but in a hurry tried to contact Warcraft 3 players they knew. From what I saw, only a few were contacted and out of these nobody could attend because of the short timeframe and school / work commitments. So in the end they asked around if anybody could go and finally they found this Peter Freitag guy. He had indeed not played any Warcraft before and the only reason he was sent was to not void the ticket. I'll try and get an official statement from LESF and translate this into English if necessary. The blame lies with them and their inactivity and failure to have any communication at all about the issues they were facing or at least contacting the wider LAN community in Luxembourg. It's a sad story of an inefficient organisation, but at least there doesn't seem to have been a willingness to commit fraud against the War3 community in Luxembourg. Personnally I'm quite disappointed by the end result and by this failure. I hope the wider Warcraft community will realise that this person's skill doesn't represent the best skill of Warcraft 3 in Luxembourg in any way and that we, the Warcraft 3 players from Luxembourg are the ones who have been really hurt by this turn of events. As final words, I would like to thank the people who have helped me track down the information I needed to find and all the people who have lent moral support. We all want a fair and square WCG, where players deserve to be there and show the best level their country has to offer. And I hope that this incident will stay isolated, but will still serve as a reminder to those who organise, follow the scene and play Warcraft III. Frozgard I don't know if Frozgard is still active, but he was a pretty good and cool orc from luxembourg (although not pro level), and he even got qualified for eswc i think (but he was worth it  ) | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
I think Virtua Fighter is included but not too sure about that. I also agree on some countries not funding their teams. My country hasn't been competing in StarCraft ever since SteelHeart 2-0'ed his group and got 2-0'd by Hwasin, the government said that our players weren't worthy. It wasn't really SteelHeart's fault if he had to go against Hwasin after the group stages. Now they sponsor Guitar Hero (in which we won 2nd place in the South East Asian World Cyber Games). Even our olympic team didn't get enough funding, I guess its really that corrupted in here. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Felagund
Philippines504 Posts
On November 06 2008 12:23 jaesung wrote: too long to read. basically OP is telling us that WCG is disappointed. OP is keep comparing WCG to an ACTUAL OLYMPIC. WCG is not backed/sponsored by government or country like OLYMPIC does. They dont have money, they do their best to keep things in order. and about wcg omitting some countries.. i dont see how this is WCG fault when your country or sponsors in your country could have helped the players. Seriously, you expecting WCG organize hundres and thousands of players themselves in every country? Well shit, what does your country do? At least WCG is hosting for most of us. So have you read it or not? | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
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NightToad
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
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