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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
August 03 2007 07:55 GMT
#41
Sexellent.

I made a comment in an SC2 forum thread a while ago about how amazed I am at the patience and receptive nature of blizz in making this game. What you've shared with us here reinforces that feeling.

Blizz is a great company through and through, we can be certain of that.
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4000 Posts
August 03 2007 08:47 GMT
#42
I like them listening to fans in a way, but i'm also afraid they're succumbing to the requests of the general public. So far, i feel a lot of things that were spammed on tl were changed:

- soul hunter out
- fast responses
- tank redesign
- medic back

It's good that blizzard listens, but they should not be afraid to say no to things either and go with the way they want things to be. They're the professionals, not us.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 03 2007 11:32 GMT
#43
They aren't afraid to say no to things, there are countless amounts of bullshit all over the place that they've completely ignored
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 03 2007 12:09 GMT
#44
On August 03 2007 17:47 aseq wrote:
I like them listening to fans in a way, but i'm also afraid they're succumbing to the requests of the general public. So far, i feel a lot of things that were spammed on tl were changed:

- soul hunter out
- fast responses
- tank redesign
- medic back

It's good that blizzard listens, but they should not be afraid to say no to things either and go with the way they want things to be. They're the professionals, not us.
fast response time was always part of the game
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useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
August 03 2007 16:30 GMT
#45
Im glad theyre listening. Hopefully, we can stem most of the stupid stuff that usually comes out of the SC2 board.
Moonlight Shadow
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
August 04 2007 01:56 GMT
#46
tank and TArchon redesign doesn't really affect the game, and now they look better so I dont see whats bad about it.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
August 04 2007 23:33 GMT
#47
Mani, hurry back and give us the good news.

BTW - Did you know you editted a final edit? ~_~ That's against principal.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
August 05 2007 02:26 GMT
#48
Hi Dustin, hi Pillars. /wave
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
August 05 2007 02:46 GMT
#49
Fucking sweet, it was cool how they were walking around while players were playing the game at blizzcon, actually asking specific gamers what they think of the game. This game will blow away all of our expectations, it's going to be great.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154&currentpage=316#6317
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
August 06 2007 03:03 GMT
#50
On August 03 2007 07:32 NonY[rC] wrote:
How about some BW tournaments in North America and Europe so that people can get excited about playing StarCraft? Many people are returning to BW because of the announcement of SC2 and they just see a long-standing dry spell of Blizzard-supported competitive events. We recently received League Development Kits from Blizzard, but the only league to have popped up was taken down partly due to buggy league software. Another reason for its disappearance was its refusal to provide a competition without reliable anti-hack, something that we can all agree should be provided by Blizzard, especially when they are encouraging online-play via LDK.

Blizzard has given us a BW tournament as a part of BlizzCon, but it's more of a spectacle than an actual competition. This year, the two non-Korean players who were invited were just repeats from last year. When one of them said he can't go, Blizzard just asked the remaining player to recommend someone. As for the 6 Koreans, only half of them are currently good. The rest are just fan favorites. More of a spectacle than an actual competition. A series of tournaments to determine who gets to compete BlizzCon would have been the most important event for any non-Korean BW player. When all the Blizzard guys are watching the BW tournament at BlizzCon, instead of thinking of how cool it is that the Koreans love their game so much that they have mastered it to a level beyond the reach of any foreigner, they should be ashamed for the exact same reason. The only reason the Koreans got so good was incentives -- incentives we seriously lack in the US.

SC2 is the chosen one. It's the RTS that has a chance to make a huge mark in competitive gaming. With Blizzard's support, it can become the best game in the world to play competitively. Push for TV time in the US and for bigger prizes than any other game has ever had. When SC2 launches, its first year should be a blitzkrieg of events. The increased community relations can play an integral role for promotion, satellite tournaments, etc. View StarCraft community leaders as a legion of volunteer workers. They are already volunteering their time and money for BW sites, but when SC2 comes out, they can become an organized army under the leadership of Blizzard. It'd be every community leader's dream to play a role in making SC2 the hands-down best e-sports game. Plan ahead.
I'm quoting this purely so that Dustin or Pillars might see it if they missed it the first time.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
August 06 2007 05:13 GMT
#51
If words were pictures, if those words, written by you (Mani) were a picture, it would be the most beautiful one.

Good one Mani.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
sc2rocks
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore79 Posts
August 06 2007 15:39 GMT
#52
Blizzard rocks!
Dyllyn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Singapore670 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-06 20:34:12
August 06 2007 20:33 GMT
#53
On August 06 2007 14:13 funKie wrote:
If words were pictures, if those words, written by you (Mani) were a picture, it would be the most beautiful one.

Good one Mani.


Manlyfesto for the win, the guy is awesome.

thank god they took out soul hunters.

I want reavers back, nevermind that their abilites have gone to other units
scv rush ftw
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
August 08 2007 13:08 GMT
#54
I totally agree with Nony's post. I think initial Blizzard support for competitive gaming will help jump-start esports in the US.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
August 15 2007 16:12 GMT
#55
Heres a Ney Say:

Sometimes I worry about the problems that might arise when giving the masses what they believe they want.... just remember SC1 wasn't openly debated or designed to this magnitude and everyone here loves what was made and given to them. As the saying goes 'too many cooks spoil the meal' so I hope we dont argue too much about what the end product is going to be and allow for some creativness to have its chance.
FlashDave.999 aka Star
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
August 17 2007 19:53 GMT
#56
thats so great to hear, blizzard is really something special.
fuglyfrog
Profile Joined July 2007
United States521 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-18 12:35:52
August 18 2007 12:33 GMT
#57
On August 16 2007 01:12 aka_star wrote:
Heres a Ney Say:

Sometimes I worry about the problems that might arise when giving the masses what they believe they want.... just remember SC1 wasn't openly debated or designed to this magnitude and everyone here loves what was made and given to them. As the saying goes 'too many cooks spoil the meal' so I hope we dont argue too much about what the end product is going to be and allow for some creativness to have its chance.


zzzz... Yea, Blizzard is trying to let the mindless masses design their game!...

For fuck's sake, they are the best at what they do--they know what to take from feedback and what is noob shit. We don't have to "allow" Blizzard to do its thing, how stupid do you imagine them to be?
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 09:47:23
August 24 2007 09:47 GMT
#58
thank you blizzard for the tank redesign
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-29 16:19:21
August 29 2007 16:17 GMT
#59
Can i ask that blizzard devote more time to Chinese gamers? With the release of starcraft 2, the Chinese scene is going to be huge but the support is lacking.

I know it is difficult to integrate Chinese gamers with the rest of bnet but consider setting up a Chinese bnet gateway in China. Money is not an issue for blizzard and it will help alot of people.
Rillanon.au
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